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    Quote Originally Posted by Des Essientes View Post
    No cafolini, I did not put "quite a bit of my own" into my post, but rather I put Nietzsche's own philosophy into it.
    Isn't it next to impossible to have a meaningful discussion of Nietzsche without bringing in a bit of your own?

    Nietzsche didn't want blind adherents, he wanted you to bring something to the table when reading and discussing him. He even went so far as demanding outright rejection from the true readers of his works.

    As the man said himself, "One repays a teacher badly if one always remains nothing but a pupil."

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    Quote Originally Posted by cafolini View Post
    Science made and makes lots of judgments on asthetics. Obesity kills for example, and science knows better how to get rid of obesity than philosophical quack-quacks of thousands of years. Health is beauty, the highest posible demonstration of aesthetic judgement. Nietzsche couldn't possibly be considered and immoralist. Relative to what? The obvious and recalcitrant immorality of those 2000 years of poisonous gases and tortures you are talking about? I think you have your wires crossed about what happened in the history of Western civilization. I think you are deeply religious and that's no bother, except when you get into something you are not capable of grasping because it's not a subject for religious thought.
    Actually, Nietzsche did refer to himself as an "immoralist." He does so in Beyond Good and Evil, section 32 and probably elsewhere as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darcy88 View Post
    Actually, Nietzsche did refer to himself as an "immoralist." He does so in Beyond Good and Evil, section 32 and probably elsewhere as well.
    Can't take things out of context. Obviously if I am joking with the rancid morality of the last 2000 years, I could declare myself an inmoralist as an irony. So did even William Blake and many others under different contexts, pretty much as a joke. But I have said enough on this subject and the clarity of his position and predictions. No one would stop taking words in one way or another. I matters little to me out of context. I am an idiot. I have said it many times although people hardly ever believe me. But it is obvious it is so. I need to learn how to read.
    One more idiotic interpretation I have made has to do with eternal recurrence. Nietzsche laughed at it all along.
    Yet, there are many more. What about the mockery of Spinoza's psichosis when he sends the guy with a lantern to look for God in physics. That was one of the most idiotic ironies I have ever read idiotically.
    And what about when he said that God is dead? Along the same idiotic interpretations, he forgot to say that it was on the cross that he died, 1900 years before. And what are we going to do now? What are we going to do now?... We have killed him. With this one I must say that I can't but laugh even more idiotically.
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