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    My thoughts so far.

    The question seems to be HOW to feed the kittens ( I presume) so they all get exactly 100ml of Tuna.

    The easiest way would be to take two out untill the first two have finished their 100ml, allowing them a bowl each at opposite corners of the cage. then swop the kittens over.

    Allowing two kittens per bowl INSIDE the cage would not ensure fairness and is there enough room anyway?

    Perhaps the question is hinting that you place the bowls OUTSIDE the cage and let the kittens reach through the mesh and get 10ml at a time.

    However, this is making assumptions about the size of kittens heads and paws in relation to the cage mesh. Also this is a billl question, so where's the maths? Should we be working out how many 6cm circles fit in a 30 cm circle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by prendrelemick View Post
    My thoughts so far.

    The question seems to be HOW to feed the kittens ( I presume) so they all get exactly 100ml of Tuna.

    The easiest way would be to take two out untill the first two have finished their 100ml, allowing them a bowl each at opposite corners of the cage. then swop the kittens over.

    Allowing two kittens per bowl INSIDE the cage would not ensure fairness and is there enough room anyway?

    Perhaps the question is hinting that you place the bowls OUTSIDE the cage and let the kittens reach through the mesh and get 10ml at a time.

    However, this is making assumptions about the size of kittens heads and paws in relation to the cage mesh. Also this is a billl question, so where's the maths? Should we be working out how many 6cm circles fit in a 30 cm circle?
    Great job! You got it, Mick, just as I expected you might. Put the bowls at opposite ends, and guide a pair of kittens to each bowl. They'll each be able (due to the size of their heads and the bowl) to get access to the food in their bowl, but they won't get any more than just their front paws in the food while they're eating. Of course, the possibility of paws accumulating food means we have to account for the front paws of each kitten soaking up 10ml each, so we need 480ml of tuna divided evenly between two bowls, with the bowls set in opposite corners.

    Your other ideas about removing kittens and feeding individually are, of course, even better--butrequires another cage or the kittens being held, or some safe way to keep them contained and safe, which I hadn't considered.

    Well, there we are. I wanted to try and create something particularly cute to contemplate, but the math and geometric aspects were maybe not as crisply interlocking and ingenious as the puzzle otherwise deserved. Still, its gotten all the attention it probably should in rather short order, so no harm done. Sometimes, that's all we ask when the puzzle spotlight steers suddenly into our face.
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    Hang on a minute, How did I get it, I'm still confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prendrelemick View Post
    Hang on a minute, How did I get it, I'm still confused.
    Thank God for that - it's not often that I understand neither the question nor the answer.

    I think bill's moved onto a higher plane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prendrelemick View Post
    Hang on a minute, How did I get it, I'm still confused.
    You did suggest a viable solution (which was out of the bounds I had been considering, but not unreasonably so), and suggested (without realizing it) that an important element (two kittens per bowl) of my imagined solution would be a poor way to maximize efficiency and fairness.

    It's a good point, esp. if one of the kittens is bigger, or there's some health issue, etc., but I was thinking in terms of a situation where the kittens were roughly competitive and had enough room to get their fill. But, even with my attention to head size and bowl size, it remains the case that even the slightest edge in initial positioning could result in a less than ideal distribution of the Tuna Delight.

    In awarding your near-comprehensive analysis the victory, I thought I might try to sweep the whole thing under the rug with my last post, shoe-horning on a crown made of my own solution, intending to convey a spirit of jest and exasperation, but instead ratcheting the disaster up a little more.
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    Listen, serving up disasters is what I do best.


    [WTDR] [DIAA] [YLIY]

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    [AYAA] [DDNE] UVGT]

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    Not a substitution cypher or a maths based encryption. A very simple puzzle disguised to look complicated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkBastable View Post
    Incidentally, 'wrong' would have done.
    Because I was not given an answer but had only the solution I had reached myself (12), I could not say it was wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by prendrelemick View Post
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    Would figuring out what comes in groups of four help?
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    No. I suspect I have bamboozled all your Machiavellian minds with simplicity.

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    Well, the clues helped A LOT. Top to bottom, left to right.

    "what my dear lady disdain are you living yet"

    Turns out this is a quote from my favorite of Shakespeare's plays (although I've seen it end "...yet living?" in my online search.) I'll have to read that again sometime soon.

    I'll have another puzzle up in 8-12 hours, unless someone else has something they want to put up.

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    Yup! thats right. Born out of despiration after I was declared sucessfull over those kittens. I know its a mis-quote but 'are-you-yet' fell all in a row top to bottom, and looked so obvious I changed them round (sorry Will.)
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    Here's a riddle disguised as a terrible poem.

    Names found in when school is out
    Spring in the eastern mountains
    And the bad side of honey
    Make which force repel law's flout?

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    Since there's some rather-less-than-teenage Brits here, I'd thought this latest riddle might have had a ghost of a chance as given, but I wasn't too optimistic. No surprise, another installment is appropriate. In case it isn't clear, the first three lines are a trio of clues (names), adding up to the fourth.

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    While stalking might appear to not be as terribly concerning as it ought to, prostitution and sex with a minor are both clearly considered in a negative light by the subject of this riddle.

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    I'm loving these clues.



    Must try and solve the riddle though.

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