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    Quote Originally Posted by mazHur View Post
    I cannot say that about him..at least he had the 'courage' to criticize the so-called 'existentialists'. Also, it must be remembered that Kierkegaard and Nietzsche are not the last word!
    a word without a predicate has no meaning!! Such as
    A rose is red..
    The sky is blue..
    God is Great
    In God We trust!!
    Is not a rose a rose before it is red? At any rate, this is simply semantics. The real question is: what is human? which is a question that Heidegger is not fit to answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G L Wilson View Post
    Is not a rose a rose before it is red? At any rate, this is simply semantics. The real question is: what is human? which is a question that Heidegger is not fit to answer.
    A rose is NOT a rose until it is there!! Firstly it grows into a bud then blooms into a colorful flower. Similarly, Humans are 'chosen' animals with intellect endowed by God; they first came into existence and then so they are as seen now!!Just as Everything is 'borne' by 'parents'... one just cannot get born without one, so is this Universe.
    Object, subject or predicate cannot be separated without having their meanings lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mazHur View Post
    A rose is NOT a rose until it is there!! Firstly it grows into a bud then blooms into a colorful flower. Similarly, Humans are 'chosen' animals with intellect endowed by God; they first came into existence and then so they are as seen now!!Just as Everything is 'borne' by 'parents'... one just cannot get born without one, so is this Universe.
    Object, subject or predicate cannot be separated without having their meanings lost.
    I think that you would have difficulty with Kant on that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G L Wilson View Post
    I think that you would have difficulty with Kant on that one.
    What difficulty?? There is God or No-God..right? Aren't your arguments
    about the absence of God in line with mine which say there is One and None??
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    Quote Originally Posted by mazHur View Post
    What difficulty?? There is God or No-God..right? Aren't your arguments
    about the absence of God in line with mine which say there is One and None??
    There is no proof of God other than in faith. I cannot manage the leap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G L Wilson View Post
    There is no proof of God other than in faith. I cannot manage the leap.
    HE is not an easy find!! Keep looking for Him and you will find Him, at least in
    His manifestations!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mazHur View Post
    HE is not an easy find!! Keep looking for Him and you will find Him, at least in
    His manifestations!!
    If he is for you, that's good. He is not for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G L Wilson View Post
    If he is for you, that's good. He is not for me.
    Having Him or not having Him is a matter of choice. Having Him is atleast better than having nothing!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mazHur View Post
    Having Him or not having Him is a matter of choice. Having Him is atleast better than having nothing!!
    He is nothing to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G L Wilson View Post
    He is nothing to me.
    That's no-win argument.
    Do you know In soul's language nothing means everything??
    Inductively, God is nothing means He's everything. At least He is
    controlling your fate....
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    Quote Originally Posted by mazHur View Post
    That's no-win argument.
    Do you know In soul's language nothing means everything??
    Inductively, God is nothing means He's everything. At least He is
    controlling your fate....
    He's not controlling mine. I have nothing to do with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G L Wilson View Post
    He's not controlling mine. I have nothing to do with him.
    but humans are not capable of controlling their destinies...
    undeserving get at the top while the deserving ones rot in the pit. If destiny of fate was in human power this phenomena wouldn't happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mazHur View Post
    but humans are not capable of controlling their destinies...
    undeserving get at the top while the deserving ones rot in the pit. If destiny of fate was in human power this phenomena wouldn't happen.
    It is just the way of the world. God's got nothing to do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazHur View Post
    but humans are not capable of controlling their destinies...
    undeserving get at the top while the deserving ones rot in the pit. If destiny of fate was in human power this phenomena wouldn't happen.
    On the contrary, that's a perfect example of human weaknesses in action.
    You must be the change you wish to see in the world. -- Mahatma Gandhi

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    Quote Originally Posted by G L Wilson View Post
    It is just the way of the world.
    God's got nothing to do with it
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    God's got nothing to do with it.
    Prove it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Calidore View Post
    On the contrary, that's a perfect example of human weaknesses in action.
    If humans hadn't this weakness they won't be humans at all. Only this weakness gives humans the spirit and strength to live and move into action. They know 'something' is beyond their capabilities and that 'something' is above them all!! Name it whatever you may but the truth is that something, someone higher in power and control rules this universe!
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