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    Quote Originally Posted by Drkshadow03 View Post
    Hmmm.

    So, yeah, that rates 1 banana:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varenne Rodin View Post
    This is not an assumption: I am not religious. You made the claim that atheists are Buddhists, and you think it is somehow hilarious. Explain yourself if you want to and if you are capable. If not, it's cool with me. I didn't really have questions for you. I was simply correcting your errors.
    I didn’t say that Atheists are Buddhists LOL! Wrong assumptions again. I think that you love making assumptions. I said that we are bombarded with Buddhist and Hindu beliefs without even knowing it. What is sold to us is not as it is. I am not going to repeat myself but you may want to read my response to Paulclem. But the choice is yours if you want to know what I think. Please, don't make any assumptions....I may get a headache.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ftil View Post
    Well, the never ending war continues.LOL! People have been fighting to defend their religions for centuries. Today we have the same argument but it has changed its face. Atheists speak against religion. But if we can take a deeper look we may see that we have been bombarded with Buddhist and Hindu beliefs without ever noticing it. Atheists are not aware that they are not Atheists at all.

    Secondly, generalization is dangerous as it distorts the fact that everybody is unique. We can’t say that Christians, Buddhists, or Hindu are certain way. If people who invest so much energy in their argument about religions could step back and analyze their thoughts and feelings they would learn a big deal about themselves. The name of the game is personal growth.
    Atheists are not atheists at all? That's incorrect. Don't accuse me of making "wrong assumptions" when you are incapable of communicating clearly. We're bombarded with Buddhism? Atheists aren't atheists? Oh, but you can't be bothered to explain. We wouldn't understand the vast genius store of knowledge you have gathered. It would be insulting if it wasn't ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ftil View Post
    Hehehe…it is impossible to elucidate in a few paragraphs. If you want to have a sense what I am talking about you may look at my Mythology and Religion tread as well as my blog. It is a tip of the iceberg as I don’t have time to elaborate it. But I also do it on purpose. I want to encourage people to do own research and those images should bring many questions.
    I've had a look at the Mythology and religion thread where you have collected together images from different cultures/ religions and demonstrated that there are similarities between them. Presumably you are suggesting that this demonstrates an iconic link between the images and therefore ideas?

    I don't see much commentary and explanation. Do the similarity of images point to a similarity of religious concepts in your view, or is it that they just have different meanings within each religion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varenne Rodin View Post
    Atheists are not atheists at all? That's incorrect. Don't accuse me of making "wrong assumptions" when you are incapable of communicating clearly. We're bombarded with Buddhism? Atheists aren't atheists? Oh, but you can't be bothered to explain. We wouldn't understand the vast genius store of knowledge you have gathered. It would be insulting if it wasn't ridiculous.
    Well, maybe you should step back and see that this is not I who can’t communicate but perhaps it is you who can’t understand. Secondly, I can promise you that one day when you are ready to do own research, you will be laughing at yourself and you will be angry at the same time. Sadly, you didn't read my response to Paulclem but misinterpreted my intentions. I think that we may end this discussion since it goes nowhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulclem View Post
    I've had a look at the Mythology and religion thread where you have collected together images from different cultures/ religions and demonstrated that there are similarities between them. Presumably you are suggesting that this demonstrates an iconic link between the images and therefore ideas?

    I don't see much commentary and explanation. Do the similarity of images point to a similarity of religious concepts in your view, or is it that they just have different meanings within each religion?
    I avoid making comments as I don’t want to influence people what I think. Yes, there is a link between those images. But the images alone don’t tell the whole story. I needed to read and I still read and go back to those books again and again and make connections I coudn’ t do and see before. I look at those images many times. We can only see what we have learned. Human mind is quite fascinating but I wish it were easer since it is time consuming. I would say it is like finding one piece of a puzzle after another. M. P. Hall expressed quintessence of symbols as he said, “symbols reveal and conceal at the same time”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ftil View Post
    Well, maybe you should step back and see that this is not I who can’t communicate but perhaps it is you who can’t understand. Secondly, I can promise you that one day when you are ready to do own research, you will be laughing at yourself and you will be angry at the same time. Sadly, you didn't read my response to Paulclem but misinterpreted my intentions. I think that we may end this discussion since it goes nowhere.
    Varenne, do you not know your superior? Do you not know that he or she is far too good for the likes of us? My God, when are people going to learn respect for their betters? It's just not good enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ftil View Post
    I would say it is like finding one piece of a puzzle after another. M. P. Hall expressed quintessence of symbols as he said, “symbols reveal and conceal at the same time”.
    Ah, yes. The guy who thinks, "That the gods of Egypt were elements of a profound magical system and possessed a significance far different from that advanced by modern Egyptologists is certain. The various deities of the Nile valley were elements of an elaborate metaphysical system, a kind of ceremonial Cabbala."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drkshadow03 View Post
    Ah, yes. The guy who thinks, "That the gods of Egypt were elements of a profound magical system and possessed a significance far different from that advanced by modern Egyptologists is certain. The various deities of the Nile valley were elements of an elaborate metaphysical system, a kind of ceremonial Cabbala."
    It stands to reason really, you only have to think about it. I have thought about it, and I have come to the conclusion that the moon is really a giant swiss cheese. Of course, it could be cheddar or some other sort of cheese but these are mere assumptions. It is really quite obvious when you think about it that the moon is a playground for mice. How could anyone deny it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by G L Wilson View Post
    Varenne, do you not know your superior? Do you not know that he or she is far too good for the likes of us? My God, when are people going to learn respect for their betters? It's just not good enough.
    You're right, G L. Truly, mine is a fool's life. I'm like a wee babe, wandering aimlessly in the woods. Lost, stumbling around blindly in the dark, hoping I might suddenly bang into a magical faithsome epiphany. Will I ever see that divine light?

    Hold! What's this? Can it be? Yes! YES! I see the light! Hahahaha. I see it so CLEARLY now! It burns. OH NO! IT BURNS! Help me, oh, won't ya?! Someone help! I want to educate myself about theism now! I must have forgot, that's all. I forgot to read the secret books! Help help. Woe is me. Woe is where I now and ever shall live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G L Wilson View Post
    It stands to reason really, you only have to think about it. I have thought about it, and I have come to the conclusion that the moon is really a giant swiss cheese. Of course, it could be cheddar or some other sort of cheese but these are mere assumptions. It is really quite obvious when you think about it that the moon is a playground for mice. How could anyone deny it?
    Well, see, that's wrong. Oh, man....how do I...

    Look, you just don't know because I'm more advanced celestially. Care to know what happens? It's this: Jewish languages are code for a sphinx who...well, he doesn't jump, but he glides. Do you see what I'm saying? There's a ramp, and it is kind of stabilized, but it's stationary, so you can't...you're disinvited to go there. If you understood anything, you would shove forks into your skull and bark like a seal. Haha. It's so funny how you are dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drkshadow03 View Post
    Ah, yes. The guy who thinks, "That the gods of Egypt were elements of a profound magical system and possessed a significance far different from that advanced by modern Egyptologists is certain. The various deities of the Nile valley were elements of an elaborate metaphysical system, a kind of ceremonial Cabbala."
    I don’t know what is your opinion about M.P.Hall. I personally don’t trust him and don't take his writing seriously as well as Madame Blavatsky's teaching. However, they both gave me some important clues for my research. I am afraid it was not their intentions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC View Post
    Yes....yes, there are. However, there are just as many, of not more among the other groups. Just because there are more Christians around it seems like there are more Christian bullies....it only takes a few....don't judge the rest of us due to THOSE morons.

    I'm confused as to why so many people around me get divorced and are looking for another lady, and can speak proudly and openly about it, but my brother and his partner must hide who they are.

    It's something I really wonder about but I don't ask people where I live. I'm not sure if it's okay to ask the question anonymously or not.

    Edit: Separated soon to be divorced.
    Last edited by Vonny; 08-13-2011 at 11:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vonny View Post
    I'm confused as to why so many people around me get divorced and are looking for another lady, and can speak proudly and openly about it, but my brother and his partner must hide who they are.

    It's something I really wonder about but I don't ask people where I live. I'm not sure if it's okay to ask the question anonymously or not.

    Edit: Separated soon to be divorced.
    I wonder the same thing about why people are so quick to end their marriages. I'm soon to be divorced because my wife had an affair and left me. I don't wish to get a divorce, but it's completely out of my hands at this point. As far as your brother goes...I don't care. If you want to ask me how I may feel about such circumstances personally, I'll gladly share that with anyone in a private conversation.

    Did you have a point for this post? How does it apply to the thread?
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    It's amazing how much fighting there has been in a thread originally posted to get us to stop fighting.
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    Remember this, my friends: there are no such things as bad plants or bad men. There are only bad cultivators.

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