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    Quote Originally Posted by prendrelemick View Post
    Er yeah, that's what I thought.
    I was going ok up to the first "functional".

    Quote Originally Posted by manolia View Post
    hehehehe or maybe they are made of dark matter so we can't actually see them
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    Right, here is my, inter-stellar- flight- is- really- easy- and- really- quick, theory.

    Here in this dimension, in this world, it has been demonstrated that "paired" or "entangled" particles can communicate with each other instantly. Speed of light doesn't come into it, it happens instantly. (There is a patented paired particle phone already registered.) The upshot of this, is a theory that Information, having no mass, can pass from anywhere to anywhere instantly, ie- it can be in all places at the same time.

    That's all very interesting, but we are still stuck on our rock, and those aliens are still stuck on theirs.

    Now along comes the latest theory that reality is in fact a holographic representation of mathematical information held in the outer reaches of the universe. Theroretical Mathamaticians are ****-a-hoop over this one, it tells them they are so brilliant, only they can discribe the universe- they claim to speak its language.

    So if we are merely pieces of information, and information is not bound by physical speed limits, we could materialize anywhere in the universe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prendrelemick View Post
    Right, here is my, inter-stellar- flight- is- really- easy- and- really- quick, theory.

    Here in this dimension, in this world, it has been demonstrated that "paired" or "entangled" particles can communicate with each other instantly. Speed of light doesn't come into it, it happens instantly. (There is a patented paired particle phone already registered.) The upshot of this, is a theory that Information, having no mass, can pass from anywhere to anywhere instantly, ie- it can be in all places at the same time.

    That's all very interesting, but we are still stuck on our rock, and those aliens are still stuck on theirs.

    Now along comes the latest theory that reality is in fact a holographic representation of mathematical information held in the outer reaches of the universe. Theroretical Mathamaticians are ****-a-hoop over this one, it tells them they are so brilliant, only they can discribe the universe- they claim to speak its language.

    So if we are merely pieces of information, and information is not bound by physical speed limits, we could materialize anywhere in the universe.
    This might explain Elvis Presley's appearance on the Moon.
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    He could be on the Moon and in Las Vegas at the same time! You just can't help believing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prendrelemick View Post
    He could be on the Moon and in Las Vegas at the same time! You just can't help believing.
    Personally, I wouldn't take any notice of him either way, but your theory reminds me of the time when a tabloid newspaper had the headline: B29 BOMBER FOUND ON THE MOON . Later, when the editor was taxed in a television interview with the absurdity of the notion, he replied "Can you prove there isn't?"
    "L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.

    "Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.

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    Einstien, admitted he couldn't atually prove the moon existed at all, when no one was looking at it. This is not some namby-pamby philosophical cleverness, he was refering to the fact that in certain Quantum Machanic experiments, the presence of an observer effects the results.

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    When places like California have a massive proportion(over 11%) of the population claiming to have seen UFO's or come into contact with aliens I sometimes think that it is possible an other wordly being has penetrated our atmosphere.
    But I'm never going to be convinced until I have seen it for myself, and not on camera. Wonderful things can be done with technology these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prendrelemick View Post
    Einstien, admitted he couldn't atually prove the moon existed at all, when no one was looking at it. This is not some namby-pamby philosophical cleverness, he was refering to the fact that in certain Quantum Machanic experiments, the presence of an observer effects the results.
    I take it you saw the Horizon programme on Reality Mick. Good programme. Interesting. My O'level maths didn't seem to do me much good when I was listening to it though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick_Bateman View Post
    When places like California have a massive proportion(over 11%) of the population claiming to have seen UFO's or come into contact with aliens I sometimes think that it is possible an other wordly being has penetrated our atmosphere.
    But I'm never going to be convinced until I have seen it for myself, and not on camera. Wonderful things can be done with technology these days.
    Not just penetrated the atmosphere either if you believe some of the stories...

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    Quote Originally Posted by XQZ View Post
    What about reverse time travel? Is that relevant to this discussion?
    No - I think time travel has been largely disproved, apart from being frozen and thawed out at some time in the future, reverse time travel is impossible

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulclem View Post
    I take it you saw the Horizon programme on Reality Mick. Good programme. Interesting. My O'level maths didn't seem to do me much good when I was listening to it though.

    I did , I'm a sucker for all that kind of stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prendrelemick View Post
    I did , I'm a sucker for all that kind of stuff.
    Me too. I did ok in physics too - but that was also no help.

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    Here I go again.

    Atheist made a good point. Why do Aliens always seem to appear to a farm boy in Idaho out on his own in the middle of nowhere. Now I've been thinking about this.

    It may be that in order to materialize (or travel) at all they need an observer at this end. Quantum mechanics gets very strange about this . A paired particle will only do its stuff when being "monitored". Also, it has been known since the twenties that photons behave oddly when not observed and predictably when observed. Nobody knows why though.

    So your Idaho farm boy is unknowingly part of the space ship engine. Though why they think he needs a good probing afterwards, who can say. Perhaps it's their way of saying thankyou.

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    Or the maximum insurance that they will have been observed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MystyrMystyry View Post
    No - I think time travel has been largely disproved, apart from being frozen and thawed out at some time in the future, reverse time travel is impossible
    Ok i too agree with you (i feel that reverse time travel must be impossible) but we can't exactly be sure since it is very difficult to disprove such a theory..and i am not even sure if it is largely not accepted among scientists (reading the various theories about parallel universes, multiverse and wormhole time travel).
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse
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