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Somebody stole it...Can I get another one?
i think i get it a little bit.. but can you people give me other themes for the animal farm?? thankss!!!
What themes do you have so far?Quote:
Originally Posted by bigfoot007
I am studying Animal Farm at the moment at school and so far I am on chapter...1!
I just wondered if anyone had any views or ideas on it which they could kindly share with me which would help me with my studies. This website is also really good.
Any quotes to remember?
Any character profiles?
Anything like that would be much appreciated.
Hello snowtastic you might want to look at this thread.
http://www.online-literature.com/for...ad.php?t=25291
Everything is explained in thread our nice muppet mod gave you; about idea and profiles. The most important quote is definitely All animals are equal but some animals are more equal then others (quote changes as story goes).
P.S. If you have some other questions, post them in LitNet homework thread. Welcome!
ok, so im spose to write a 1000 word Essay about the novel of animal farm. My task is to read a novel that focuses on a social problem. I then have to examine this social problem and how it has been dealt with by a variety of texts and a number of cultures over time (Animal Farm – corruption, Greed, Abuse of Power
Can you please help me out and give me some information about how readers are positioned by the text to form various opinions on the social issue; whose interests are being served by the dominant discourses of the text AND whether the novel reinforces existing norms through other texts.
My response also needs to pay attention to the relevant practices of a research assignment. Meaning a hypothesis is needed, and I need to refer to six texts that include one of each of the following, novels, plays, short stories, biography’s, autobiography’s, poems, songs, artworks, photographs, monuments and buildings
Please help me out...
Have you actually read the book? It isn't obvious from your post that you have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teacheth_me
My first suggestion is to read the entire AF homework help thread at the top of the forum page - you'll find lots of good stuff in there - then pop any remaining questions at the end of that thread and I'll see what I can do, and no doubt Bazarov will as well.
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okayy ihave no idea how to start this essay:flare: its making me mad
heres the prompt, "All animals are equal but some are more equal than others." Write an essay in which you will discuss the bitter truth of the above statement in the context of the novel. In your essay, be sure to include certain events and the behavior of certain character.
Also we cant use qoutes or questions in our in truduction paragraph. Ya im doing tis for english honors and i dont know how to start it. we have to haev a good attention getter and i cant think of any. and everything we say must led back to our thesis statement. and are thesis statement must be like arguble he said. so any help ontopics on how to start the paper? NO QUOTES OR QUESTIONS!!!!
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THANKS
no ones helping me:[
Hi there! Gosh, you only gave us 13 minutes!!Quote:
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Ok.Quote:
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I suggest having a read of this whole thead, this has been well covered in previous posts - both the reason for the statement and what it means for all of the animals apart from the pigs. Reading the thread should give you a few good tips on things to say, without having words put in your mouth.
If you still need help after that, one of us will be glad to help - and if you need it urgently, PM me or Bazarov, or even better, both of us!
*I'll give you a hint for the attention-getter; start at the end of the novel. When Clover is looking from man to pig and can't tell the difference, that's the unltimate expression of the animalian inequality - the pigs have become indistinguishable from humans.
You know what always worked for me , although I suppose your really not supposed to do it this way... work my way from the middle out start with the body come up with a line of argument then write the introduction that brings it in.
Man, I'm quoting myself! Rare situation :DQuote:
Originally Posted by bazarov
This is answer from one previous but actually very same question. It's on page 5 of this officially the best thread...If you need something else or this isn't clear or good enough, Official and his assistants are ready to help.
What does changing the name back to Manor Farm symbolize?
It shows the same thing as the pigs and men being indistinguishable at the end of the book - the pigs have completely taken over. They changed the name to appease humans who they'd be trading with. It tells the world that the farm is being run along the same lines as it was under Jones - a commercial entity, just that it's now run by pigs instead of men.Quote:
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May I add to that? The whole book Animal Farm is a reflectio nto the Russian Revolution. The changing of the name is when Russia changes it's name back- I can't remember exactly but it had one name before the revolution when Czar Nicholas was in power (Jones) then the animals took over (Russian Revoltion) and it changed it's name then the pigs took over (Stalin) and they changed their name back to the smae one as before the revolution.
What changes?Quote:
Originally Posted by AdoreroDio
OMG!! You guys are awesome!! I just read this whole thread, from the first post the the last, and I think I finally understand the book properly now!
For my Yr 9 English class we are required to read Animal Farm, and write about it, how we've been influenced by it, the author's messages, about the author himself, etc., etc....And now, thanks to everyone who posted in this thread, I finally understand the book! Thankyou all soooo much!!
Oh, and another thing....I couldn't help but notice that the pigs (Devious little devils!) changed the Seven Commandments a couple of times throughout the book. Obviously in the dead of the night, when the other animals were sleeping, or during the day when everyone else was out working, building the windmill, ploughing fields, etc.
Is there a reason behind that other than just that the pigs are greedy, selfish, and think themselves superior to all other beings?
It was more that they kept changing the commandments to suit their own desires. They wanted to walk, drink alcohol and sleep in beds, so the commandments changed along with those desires. In the end, they just did away with the lot, as my sig notes. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by MarileeRixon
Glad you found the thread helpful!
They made commandments to suit them best; and if something happened and they needed change of commandment to justify their behavior, they would simply change the commandment.
OK...Thanks, Guys!
well wuts the question because there are plenty of way in witch i could go with that and i dont feel like righting an esay myself
i guss that Orwell is telling us to keep aware of whats going on within our government and not to allow happy storys and fictional numbers blind us. For exampleBoxer represents the commen blue coller worker. His maxums " I will work harder" and "Nepolean is always right" demonstrat his divotion to his leaders but this divotion has blinded him and evenchualy leads to his death
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Not trying to be mean here, but I've never seen so many errors in one post. Note the corrected version -
15 mistakes without counting the lack of capital letters?Quote:
well what's the question because there are plenty of ways in which i could go with that and i dont feel like writing an essay myself
i guess that Orwell is telling us to keep aware of what's going on within our government and not to allow happy stories and fictional numbers blind us. For exampleBoxer represents the common blue collar worker. His maxims " I will work harder" and "Nepolean is always right" demonstrate his devotion to his leaders but this devotion has blinded him and eventually leads to his death
Some of your premises are ok, but to pass the message across with any kind of authority, at least a reasonable degree of accuracy is helpful.
I've also re-posted your question in the AF Homework thread, here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heyyy!
Have a read of the whole thing, we've covered most of the possible questions, but we can expand a little on yours there as well.
Just shifted this from another thread.Quote:
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Hey, Heyy!
Orwell is a writer who only wrote to get a message across. In AF, he used the unusual ploy of swapping the central characters of the Russian Revolution to animal characters to increase the impact. He knew that a simple story about the Revolution would remain unread and correctly guessed that an allegorical tale would have appeal.
If you cruise this thread, you should find enough material to keep you going, but if you need more, ask away!
Ok...Another question....What are the Morals of Animal Farm? New essay - "Write an explanation of Animal Farm’s key moral or morals. Support your
explanation with specific examples and plot elements from the novel"
I am having a hard time thinking of morals from the story other than "Communism doesn't work". Please help?
There are several you can play with, the key one being Edmund Burke's famous quote:Quote:
Originally Posted by MarileeRixon
Power corrupts, but absolute power corrupts absolutely. There could be little more absoluteness than the pigs' rule, nor any corruption so complete.
Benjamin is a good study. What is his morality other than wanting to live a long life? He knows and understands, but will not raise a hoof in protest - accepting that submission is the only choice.
The morality of not allowing any dissent. Even the implication of dissent is sufficient for the death penalty.
Lying, hypocrisy and cheating. The pigs are quite happy to give up the morality of Old Major and Snowball for the regime of Napoleon. Why is it ok with their moral code to lie and cheat the very animals which keep them in luxury?
Good luck!
One of my teachers one told me (this is one of the things, I actually remembered from school) that George Orwell didn't not think communism didn't work, he just thought that communism didn't work well in Russia. because many people (including me) like communism, they just know it will never happen in a big community because power corrupts and other factors as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarileeRixon
For other morals, squealer's propaganda could be used, as well as napoleon's forcing of the animals confession. something like that
As a study guide for myself and anyone else who needs it, I am going to list the characters of Animal Farm and their symbolic references to the Russian revoulution. If I left something blank or have not elaborated on it, feel free to post and I will edit my post accordingly.
Animal Farm – Russia
Mr. Jones – Tsar Nicholas 2
Old Major – Karl Marx
Napoleon – Stalin
Snowball – Trotsky
Squealer – The controlled media (propaganda)
Boxer – Patriotic citizen
Moses – Religion
Pigs – Nobility (political figures)
Napoleon’s Dogs – Red Army (Red Terror)
Seven Commandments – Laws
Windmill - ??
Benjamin - ??
Animalism – Marxism (possibly)
The Rebellion – The 1917 Russian Revolution (February)
Battle of the Cowshed – The 1917 Russian Revolution (October)
Battle of the Windmill - ??
Other Animals (goat, hens, ducks, sheep, ect…) – Russian peasents
Pinchfield Farm - ?? (possibly Germany or another country)
Foxwood Farm - ?? (possibly Germany or another country)
“Beasts of England” - ??
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Welcome!
There is a thread devoted to characters and symbols in Animal Farm. If you feel that something is missing or is wrong, please post it!
P.S. Dogs represent NKVD, not Red Army.
Hi I am writing an essay about Animal Farm and need some help... It's quite a general question actually, Is Animal Farm a Childrens book? .. we need to use other people's critical work (secondary sources relevant to my topic). so baisically need some arguments and biases.... anything would help to get me started !:)
You've skated right past the best resource on the entire internet!
The AF homework help thread above, click here, will tell you pretty much everything you need to know!
Good luck and if you have other questions, add them to the Homework thread.
Im having trouble finding out what these things in AF symbolize, i appriciate any type of help. Thanks in advance!
Windmill
Battle of the Windmill
Beasts of England
Also does the changing of Animal Farm to Manor Farm represent Russia forming the USSR and then reforming back into Russia?
Name one place where communism functioned well?Quote:
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Windmill is Five Year Plan, made by Stalin and Trotsky. It's an economic program that went very very bad. After Trotsky's removal from positions and from Soviet Union also, Stalin accused Trotsky to be only creator of Five Year Plan.Quote:
Originally Posted by da_zerg
Battle of the Windmill probably shows Stalin's relegation of Trotsky, who had a great influence in Russia.
Beasts of England is an anthem. Stalin replaced old Russian anthem ''Internationale'' with new anthem ''the Hymn of the Soviet Union''. Instead of old hymn that praised people and revolution, the new one praised only Stalin. When Hruschov became leader, hymn was almost completely changed or removed.
Change of name symbolize change Red Army's name. Animal Farm - only animals are working, so it looks amateur and very unprofessional, which would probably result with lack of reputation. Red Army was called Workers and Peasants Army, obviously very unprofessional, which was unacceptable for one of world leaders. They changed name in Soviet Army; name that causes respect. Manor Farm suites better, someone would think real workers work there...
Well done! Thank you very much for the help :)
You're welcome! If you need anything else, feel free to ask.Quote:
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i am writing an essay for english 10....i read the whole thread and found it extremely helpful.....thanks alot for the help!!!:thumbs_up :thumbs_up :thumbs_up :thumbs_up