Personal Beliefs

[cacian]

Other then that of religion.
Example: one personal belief against another creates conflict but then should resolve into differences being as that.
Do most human beliefs eventually come together as the same or are they different, very different, hence culminating in tension and disrgard for each other.

Another example:
I believe I must follow my instinct in everything I come across. I owe it to myself and it is a great intellectual exercise that invigorates intelligence.

[Volya]

Following your instinct is not always a good thing. Humans are naturally incline towards war and violence, none of which are good. Trusting your instinct is all well and good until scientific evidence proves that your instinct is incorrect.

Human belief varies from where you are from and how you are brought up I would assume. If we all believed the same thing, there would be no conflicts.

[cacian]

[QUOTE=Volya;1176281]Following your instinct is not always a good thing. Humans are naturally incline towards war and violence, none of which are good. Trusting your instinct is all well and good until scientific evidence proves that your instinct is incorrect.

I am not so sure about people's instinct is to be generally inclined to go to war more and be violent.
I feel this is a myth propagated in books and films. I think the minorit may feel that way towards violence. Not all of us feel we must be heros.


Human belief varies from where you are from and how you are brought up I would assume. If we all believed the same thing, there would be no conflicts.
I think that if we believed in the same thing life would be much easier.
I feel conflict only aggravate the meaning of life and make people more aggressive and destructive towards each other. There is no real life as far as conflict is concerned only destruction.
Yes I agree the way we are brought up has a lot to answer for but I feel that individuality, the belief in oneself, is more flexible and makes for a better way of thinking and being. Self reliance is more interesting dependency on others is bearing and does not evolve into something else.
Conflict is usually a team effort individuality is more significant because it is embeded from within and can bring a great deal of change if we believed we are individuals first then the same afterwards.

[BienvenuJDC]

Some things are just a matter or opinion and personal preference.

[BienvenuJDC]

Trusting your instinct is all well and good until scientific evidence proves that your instinct is incorrect.

Scientific evidence cannot prove anything. It is merely knowledge. The manner in which knowledge is applied can be accurate, but it can also be manipulated to mislead according to one's personal agenda, or belief.


Human belief varies from where you are from and how you are brought up I would assume. If we all believed the same thing, there would be no conflicts.

If we all beleived the same thing, there would also be NO VARIETY.

[Delta40]

Don't humans naturally incline toward love and peace also until conflict arises?

[cacian]

Don't humans naturally incline toward love and peace also until conflict arises?

Hi Delta I agree with this.
Humans are pacifist and naturally incline to living with another human hence protecting themselves from conflict.
I guess conflict arises from misunderstanding and not disbeliefs.

[Delta40]

Or maybe they naturally incline toward conflict until love and peace arises....

[cacian]

Or maybe they naturally incline toward conflict until love and peace arises....

LOL now we're getting complexed ;)
Let see ever had a fight yourself just to tease peace?

[Shevek]

I am not so sure about people's instinct is to be generally inclined to go to war more and be violent.
I feel this is a myth propagated in books and films. I think the minorit may feel that way towards violence. Not all of us feel we must be heros.


Agreed. Talk of what is "natural" or "instinctive" for all humans is always going to be sketchy because these categories are often learned. We see war and conflict around us, so therefore it must be natural for all humanity -- anyone here can see this reasoning is not very rigorous.

[OrphanPip]

Well humanity is generally inclined towards violence, just as it is inclined towards cooperation. I don't think any of us has not acted violently or considered violence at some point, just as I don't think any of us has never cooperated with someone out of good will. The problem is thinking of cooperation and violence as antithetical, which is clearly not true because we can cooperate in violent activity, we can even cooperate in violent activity with good intentions.

[cacian]

Well humanity is generally inclined towards violence, just as it is inclined towards cooperation. I don't think any of us has not acted violently or considered violence at some point, just as I don't think any of us has never cooperated with someone out of good will. The problem is thinking of cooperation and violence as antithetical, which is clearly not true because we can cooperate in violent activity, we can even cooperate in violent activity with good intentions.

Again I have my doubts about violence and I speak for myself and some poeple I know.
The idea that we are all up for a bit of violence is rather dim. I think under stress or self defence on is to act to protect themselves because that is normal and I would not call that violence.
Violence is unatural because it veers towards destruction which is not natural either.

[Volya]

Again I have my doubts about violence and I speak for myself and some poeple I know.
The idea that we are all up for a bit of violence is rather dim. I think under stress or self defence on is to act to protect themselves because that is normal and I would not call that violence.
Violence is unatural because it veers towards destruction which is not natural either.

The idea that destruction is unnatural is very amusing. Have you taken a look and seen what we're doing to the planet and ourselves?

[OrphanPip]

Again I have my doubts about violence and I speak for myself and some poeple I know.
The idea that we are all up for a bit of violence is rather dim. I think under stress or self defence on is to act to protect themselves because that is normal and I would not call that violence.
Violence is unatural because it veers towards destruction which is not natural either.

I see what you mean, all violence is unnatural. Except for all that violence that happens to be natural. :rolleyes5:

[JuniperWoolf]

Well, if anyone (brother, friend, ect.) ever says something along the lines of: "you realize that your stuffed animals are inanimate objects, right?" my heart breaks ever so slightly.

[cacian]

The idea that destruction is unnatural is very amusing. Have you taken a look and seen what we're doing to the planet and ourselves?

How is that changing from the fact that violence is not natural to normal people. We are not all wishing to destroy what is around us.
What some people are doing to the planet is through sheer ignorance and lack of thinking.
The fact that nasa sends its shuttles to the moon/space and pollute it is sheer arrongance and ignorance. It is time that some real thinkers put a stop to it. It is shocking the amount of rubbish floating around space.
Now China is having go then next India and the place is heaving with rubbish.
IT is a scary prospect.
I think the UN is better off quiting its jobs and trying to control war zones and ought to concentrate perhaps at dealing with space invaders.
It is shambolic that not one has uttered an objection to what is going on in space.

[Volya]

How is that changing from the fact that violence is not natural to normal people. We are not all wishing to destroy what is around us.
What some people are doing to the planet is through sheer ignorance and lack of thinking.
The fact that nasa sends its shuttles to the moon/space and pollute it is sheer arrongance and ignorance. It is time that some real thinkers put a stop to it. It is shocking the amount of rubbish floating around space.
Now China is having go then next India and the place is heaving with rubbish.
IT is a scary prospect.
I think the UN is better off quiting its jobs and trying to control war zones and ought to concentrate perhaps at dealing with space invaders.
It is shambolic that not one has uttered an objection to what is going on in space.

I'm honestly not bothered about rubbish in space. It's not as if it affects us.
And evidently, we ARE all wishing to destroy what's around us. Else we wouldn't, would we.

[cacian]

I'm honestly not bothered about rubbish in space. It's not as if it affects us.
And evidently, we ARE all wishing to destroy what's around us. Else we wouldn't, would we.

You are not bothered about rubbish in space.
I am.
Seriously damaging for the planets and humans long term.
I am not being funny or rude but I honestly do not follow what you mean by wishing to destroy everything around us.
I figured that ultimately humans will destroy each other if anything and the environment and planet will always find a way to adapt however if space is also contaminated and piled with rubbish then there is no way out for anyone.
If what is above us,amongst us and underneath us all polluted then we might as well call ourselves dead.
So I'd rather be out of here before it happens.
Something's got to give it and that would not be me I can assure you.

[Volya]

You are not bothered about rubbish in space.
I am.
Seriously damaging for the planets and humans long term.
I am not being funny or rude but I honestly do not follow what you mean by wishing to destroy everything around us.
I figured that ultimately humans will destroy each other if anything and the environment and planet will always find a way to adapt however if space is also contaminated and piled with rubbish then there is no way out for anyone.
If what is above us,amongst us and underneath us all polluted then we might as well call ourselves dead.
So I'd rather be out of here before it happens.
Something's got to give it and that would not be me I can assure you.

What problems does rubbish in space cause?
There are far more urgent problems that need attending too.

I don't wish to destroy everything, but it would appear humanity as a group does.

[cacian]

QUOTE=Volya;1176804]What problems does rubbish in space cause?
Well it is space a place that should not be polluted at the first place.
So I am guessing like anything in life what we would do to brand new stuff will eventually worn out and gets thrown away.
Space is the same a bit like a handbag. The more junk one piles in it the more ripped and shabby it becomes and then it is out to the bins.
It is the same idea.

There are far more urgent problems that need attending too.
Sure. But what urgent stuff does one attend to?
What is urgent to you might not be urgent to the neighbour and another.
I mean what do you have in mind? :p



I don't wish to destroy everything, but it would appear humanity as a group does.
Agreed. I think destruction is part of the problem and a lot of it is undone because one is not aware of what it is they are destroying.
Space is one example.

[Volya]

Well it is space a place that should not be polluted at the first place.
So I am guessing like anything in life what we would do to brand new stuff will eventually worn out and gets thrown away.
Space is the same a bit like a handbag. The more junk one piles in it the more ripped and shabby it becomes and then it is out to the bins.
It is the same idea.

Sure. But what urgent stuff does one attend to?
What is urgent to you might not be urgent to the neighbour and another.
I mean what do you have in mind? :p


No cacian, space is nothing like a handbag.

Urgent stuff? Hmmm, let me think: attempting to achieve world peace, fixing the economy, stopping global warming, ending all discrimination. I would assume most people find those fairly urgent.