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blazeofglory
06-30-2009, 06:58 AM
Is morality the instrument of the weak and for the weak.......by the weak?

Is it for a self protection...or is it to melt the heart of the strong .. to make them empathize (sympathize?) or pity the poor.

What soever the matter is all I think is there has never been justice for the poor nor by the Almighty, nor by any political ideals or leaders. No work of humanism has been effective to elevate the conditionality the poor are hemmed in.

Even Mother Teresa towards the end of her life was somewhat confused and she secretly questioned the very existence of God or that God is really merciful. Of course her faith was shaken. Even the saint like Mother Teresa was distrustful of the fact that there would be any justice to the poor. The idea that god will vindicate his ways to man.

From time immemorial there are always two classes. The ruler and the ruled.

Be prepared to rule or get ruled. There is no third option for you.


Nietzsche has written enough about master mortality and slave morality; and he kind of despised morality. Now not taking a liking to morality means to fully obey to obey impulses and in doing so we stick to Natural laws and we know in point of fact in nature there are different laws that do not come to terms with human laws. We in society have framed laws and the objective of framing them is to fend for the weaklings, not for the mighty in point of fact. There are no laws for the all powerful and the invincible. Because they are invincible and impregnable. Laws are for the poor, of the poor and by the poor. Everywhere we see the few powerful rules over the mass un-powerful. Of course morality is in the book of laws and in the heads of the judges, but hardly have we seen in actual fact. I have recently read in one Indian newspaper, a luminary- cinema-star has raped his maid, but the maid was accused of raping him. Money and power speak over facts everywhere. Justice is not inexistent. In some cases they are prevalent but in many cases they are limited to papers, not in action. I have read only 10 % cases of rapes get to the court and out of that only 18 % victims get justice. This is just an example among tens of thousands cases.

Democracy, liberty are the softest tools, things are just eyewash and I in point of fact reckon it hogwash. It never worked at any point in history. Of course it could have worked under a certain circumstance may be 5 % or 10 % but that cannot be deemed the metrics to average it.

I have had a long journey in my life and career path. I was the son of a farmer, in fact coming of a lower middle class social layer. There were farmers much poorer and they in fact worked for us, and in substance they were contributing 90 % to our farms but they were paid only 10 %. Because the land belonged to us, inherited from our fathers, and fathers from grandfathers and grandfathers from great-grandfathers, so on and so forth. And by virtue of inheritance we enjoyed great rights notwithstanding the fact that we did not labor much. They are the planters and we are the reapers.

I remember a poem by Shelley wherein he beautifully wrote as to how the poor were deprived by the rich few.

And the law governing this system was framed by the rich for the rich by the rich. And the law not to protest but submit the rich was framed for the poor by the rich.

MarkBastable
06-30-2009, 07:22 AM
You really must get out more.

prendrelemick
07-03-2009, 05:32 AM
Your mistake is to lump morality and law together. the one has nothing whatsoever to do with the other.

JacobF
07-03-2009, 05:49 AM
Your mistake is to lump morality and law together. the one has nothing whatsoever to do with the other.

Many laws are created out of what is believed by a society to be moral and immoral. Why do you think murder is illegal? If a citizen killing another citizen was never viewed as immoral then there would have been no reason to create a law against it. That example may be a bit overblown, so consider private law. The sole purpose of its existence, at least in North America to my understanding, is to encourage moral behavior in a society.

There are laws which are indifferent to what is moral and immoral, and are implemented for the purpose of keeping a stable society. But to say that morality and law have nothing to do with one another is not accurate.

(By the way, blaze, this thread shouldn't be in the General Writing forum)

prendrelemick
07-03-2009, 07:19 AM
Of course you're right, I came on too strong. I was commenting on blazeofglory's post.
I agreed with the direction of his arguements in regard to The Law, but believed (or hoped) that morality was something else.

JacobF
07-03-2009, 08:21 AM
Of course you're right, I came on too strong. I was commenting on blazeofglory's post.
I agreed with the direction of his arguements in regard to The Law, but believed (or hoped) that morality was something else.

Oh, I misunderstood what you meant, then.