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coberst
06-16-2009, 03:25 PM
What truths would a wise person pursue?

The book Beyond Alienation by Ernest Becker attempts to clarify the nature of the human problem and to provide a solution for this problem. If humanity is to resolve this problem it must find a way to instruct itself wisely in the matter of social morality.

Humanity must develop a synthesis of knowledge that can serve as a reasoned basis for constructing a moral rationality. We need to develop a means whereby secular moral science becomes the central consideration for learning.

If I had the ability I would draw a cartoon character with an Arnold Schwarzenegger-like upper torso supported on two thin, spindly, and varicose veined legs. This cartoon character would represent humanity as I visualize the human species.

The strong upper torso represents our strong aptitude for technological achievement and the supporting legs represent our weak and wobbly moral rationality that is failing to provide the foundation needed by humanity.

Philosophy and theology does deal with morality but in a fundamentally different manner. The moral philosophy Becker speaks of recognizes that knowledge is never absolute and therefore must not remain static but must be dynamic reflecting the constant discovery initiated by science. Knowledge is that which helps to promote human welfare in the here and now.

Pragmatism is a self-consistent philosophy that honors the idea that what humans value is that which is relative to what is satisfying. This did not mean just the satisfaction of human appetite but there is recognition that humans are rational creatures; meaning that a value is judged so only when it is chosen in a critical mode of careful examination. “And it is the community of men, in free and open inquiry and exchange, who formulate the ideal values.”

Dewey’s pragmatism was dedicated to the task of reconstruction. Education was considered to be “the supreme human interest” wherein all philosophical problems come to a head. Dewey’s pragmatism failed because it was a call to action without a standard for action. Education must be progressive and must have a strong critical content.

The big question then is what can philosophy and science tell education to do? “What truths is man to pursue for the sake of man? What should we learn about man and society, knowledge that would show us, by clear and compelling logic, how to act and how to choose in our person and social life?”

Becker thinks that we must transform the university from its present vocational education institution into one leading the transformation of society. It is in this solution that I differ with Becker. I do not think that higher education will ever change its role of preparing students to become productive workers and avid consumers—at least until after the revolution.

I think that in the United States there is a great intellectual asset that goes unused. Most adults engage in little or no critical intellectual efforts directed at self-actualizing self-learning after their schooling is finished. If a small percentage of our adults would focus some small part of their intellectual energies toward self-actualizing self-learning during the period between the end of their formal education and mid-life they could be prepared to focus serious time and intellectual focus upon creating an intellectual elite that could make up a critical intellectual element dedicated toward the regeneration of our society.

trueromantic
06-17-2009, 10:40 AM
I agree an elite, or an elected body should debate and perhaps advise on 'the regenration of society' and I agree with your aims, but distrust your methods, they frequently lead to unpleasant results.
Your diagram should, if morality is its aim, have morality at its highest point resting on a number of points. You place technological achievemnt as some kind of humanitarian bench mark but what about Nuclear weapons ad global warming. In that context secular materialism looks like the cause not the cure.
I also don't believe we can impose a perfect morality by law or by educational teaching alone. In many cases it is the state which breed the perfect philosophy not vise versa.

kristian
06-19-2009, 09:10 AM
Pursue the truth that is in you. That is only the truth that you can be close to certainty.

Buh4Bee
06-19-2009, 11:55 AM
What truths would a wise person pursue?

I think that in the United States there is a great intellectual asset that goes unused. Most adults engage in little or no critical intellectual efforts directed at self-actualizing self-learning after their schooling is finished. If a small percentage of our adults would focus some small part of their intellectual energies toward self-actualizing self-learning during the period between the end of their formal education and mid-life they could be prepared to focus serious time and intellectual focus upon creating an intellectual elite that could make up a critical intellectual element dedicated toward the regeneration of our society.

Coberst,
Are you talking about professors or teachers? It seems to me what you described above is was 'good' teachers do.


I don't want to detract from the more philosophical conversation, but I felt it relevant to describe this practical example:
I just had to very talented students graduate from high school heading to college to become possible engineers. The staff that I worked with put a lot of time and effort into crafting their education and exposing these young people to all subject matter, mainly focusing on math and science. The choices we made were based on our own knowledge and background. We, the staff, often research best practice methods to instruct these students.

billl
06-19-2009, 12:54 PM
I think we have enough people qualified to form the elite already, the important part seems to me to be just getting the average citizens a bit more savvy about advertising, propoganda, and all forms of information/media manipulation. Really, if voters had a semester or a year of Logic 101, with plenty of time spent on Rhetorical Trickery, we'd be in a better position to observe debate among the elite and choose which ideas and representatives best served us.

The elite can research matters (as they do now), but I think improvements need to be made in the ability of the general public to see through rhetorical manipulation, and in the accountability of the elite to the public at large.

Then a wise person might teach their child to be kind AND/OR enjoy the seasonal changes in their garden or local park AND/OR write novels and essays that might be read only by a few acquaintances AND/OR pursue a career involving physical activity, like sports or geology AND/OR devote their days to music AND/OR pursue research and design on the technological cutting edge AND/OR occasionally think about philosophy and truths AND/OR become a paramedic AND/OR reminisce with friends on the weekend, ETC.

Michael T
06-19-2009, 03:09 PM
I’m not sure what you are getting at here Coberst. You seem to be suggesting that the world needs some kind of elite body of people who will tell all of us lesser beings how to behave. Just what is this ‘human problem’ you refer to? Perhaps you could make a list of a few of the ‘truths’ you hint at, yet never mention. Are this elite group of people going to have the power to enforce their ‘moral truths’ on the hoi polloi? This seems like the sort of meaty thread that I’m going to enjoy discussing!

caddy_caddy
07-05-2009, 10:47 AM
Among many truths, I choose the one that lies in my heart.