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lonely_prison
09-19-2007, 02:22 AM
Answer: Agnosticism is the view that the existence of God is impossible to be known or proven. The word “agnostic” essential means “without knowledge.” Agnosticism is a more intellectually honest form of atheism. Atheism claims that God does not exist – an improvable position. Agnosticism argues that God’s existence cannot be proven or unproven – that it is impossible to know whether God exists. In this concept, agnosticism is correct. God’s existence cannot be empirically proven or disproven.

The Bible tells us that we must accept by faith that God exists. Hebrews 11:6 says, “But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.” God is spirit (John 4:24) so He cannot be seen or touched. Unless God chooses to reveal Himself, He is essentially invisible to our senses (Romans 1:20). The Bible instructs that the existence of God can be clearly seen in the universe (Psalm 19:1-4), sensed in nature (Romans 1:18-22), and confirmed in our own hearts (Ecclesiastes 3:11).

Agnosticism is essentially the unwillingness to make a decision either for or against God’s existence. It is the ultimate “riding the fence” position. Theists believe that God exists. Atheists believe that God does not exist. Agnostics believe that we shouldn’t believe or disbelieve in God’s existence – because it is impossible to know either way.

For the sake of argument, let’s throw out the clear and undeniable evidences of God’s existence. If we put the positions of theism and atheism / agnosticism on equal footing, which makes the most “sense” to believe – in regards to the possibility of life after death? If there is no God, theists and atheists / agnostics alike all simply cease to exist when they die. If there is a God, atheists and agnostics will have Someone to answer to when they die. From this perspective, it definitely makes more “sense” to be a theist than an atheist / agnostic. If neither position can be proven or disproven, doesn’t it seem wise to make every effort to believe in the position that may have an infinitely and eternally more desirable end result?

It is normal to have doubts. There are so many things in this world that we do not understand. Often people doubt God’s existence because they do not understand or agree with the things He does and allows. However, we as finite human beings should not expect to be able to comprehend an infinite God. Romans 11:33-34 exclaims, “Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and His ways past finding out! For who has known the mind of the LORD? Or who has become His counselor?” We must believe in God by faith and trust His ways by faith. God is ready and willing to reveal Himself in amazing ways to those who will believe in Him. Deuteronomy 4:29 proclaims, “But if from there you seek the LORD your God, you will find Him if you look for Him with all your heart and with all your soul.”

Dark Star
09-20-2007, 12:26 PM
Thank you for completely misusing the term 'atheism'.

An agnostic atheist or soft atheist is an atheist that lacks belief in the existence of a deity, a hard atheist (the one you're thinking of) believes no deities exist.

As for your use of Pascal's Wager: You're forgetting several important things and using an argument that hasn't been taken seriously for centuries on top of that. This certainly does not constitute proof of God's existence, anyway.

First of all, you have provided no evidence that there is a 50/50 chance of theism or atheism being correct which puts you in a bad position for claiming there is and that we should act on those odds. Secondly, there are thousands if not millions of theistic religions out there, many of which include their own version of Hell. This leads to problems of choosing the correct deity to worship; for all we know it won't be bothered by atheists and agnostics since they simply took a rational position of not believing without evidence, but may be extremely angry at theists who worshiped the wrong deity. Also, by your logic, since the point of belief is hedging bets, if we find a religion with a worse afterlife than the Christian worldview provides for non-believers then we should all convert away from Christianity to that religion.

So.....are you interested in converting when I find this religion with a much worse afterlife for unbelievers?

Scheherazade
09-20-2007, 01:41 PM
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