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mike thomas
09-10-2007, 01:31 PM
In the the first edition of the King James Bible there is a section called the Apocrypha, which is no longer printed in our modern bibles.

In the Apocrypha we find Enoch and lots of other characters not usually seen.

The Wisdom of Solomon is one such book, and I attach a copy from the initial letter in of the first page of that book.

Any thoughts per description?

regards

Pendragon
09-15-2007, 11:45 AM
In the the first edition of the King James Bible there is a section called the Apocrypha, which is no longer printed in our modern bibles.

In the Apocrypha we find Enoch and lots of other characters not usually seen.

The Wisdom of Solomon is one such book, and I attach a copy from the initial letter in of the first page of that book.

Any thoughts per description?

regardsThe Apocrypha as far as I know is still published in Catholic editions of the Bible. I could not open your image. so I really cannot comment on it. Are you positve this is from a 1611 King James Version, because it sounds more like the Vatican Manuscript? Both were common enough in that timeframe, because England went through several wars to decide if Catholic or Protestents would have the throne.

God Bless

Pen

mike thomas
09-19-2007, 06:24 AM
Many apologies. Dont know why image failed to appear, but its ok now.

Just tested it.

All the best

Pendragon
09-19-2007, 11:44 AM
Well, I ran it through some software and blew it up as best I could:

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/AbsalomKane/Four/image.jpg

It appears to be Pan or a sayter playing a flute, the flute, goat-legs and horns are all pretty distingusable. I still question this being a 1611 King James Bible, I would say rather it was a very old Catholic Bible, as I know of no edition of the King James that includes The Apocrypha.

The Apocrypha used to be published in a very old book called "The Lost Books of the Bible" which I may still have my copy here somewhere. I had two, one I inherited from my grandfather, the other was given to me by a friend.

I hope this helps your image question. I did my best anyway, and that's what I see.

God Bless

Pen

Whifflingpin
09-19-2007, 03:41 PM
"If you look at a copy of the original 1611 King James Bible, the book of Malachi ends with these words: "The end of the Prophets". Then the whole Apocrypha, which itself means "unknown, or spurious" is clearly marked off from the rest of the Scriptures by the words "Apocrypha" twice at the top of every page throughout. It then ends with these words: "The end of Apocrypha"."
http://www.geocities.com/brandplucked/Apocrypha.html

The woodcut, and more particularly, its surrounding text, certainly match other images claimed to be facsimiles of the 1611 edition, so I see no reason to doubt Mike Thomas.

I agree that the picture looks like a goat, but I don't see any sign of a flute - the other odd lines seem to me to be part of the tree that is included in the picture.

Pendragon
09-20-2007, 08:54 AM
Thank you, Wiff, for the link. I stand corrected. The 1611 did, indeed, contain The Apocrypha. As for the flute, look again. The Satyr’s mouth and hand positions give the line of the flute, which is admittedly faint. Since the figure is depicted dancing, the head turned over its shoulder; the flute playing is even harder to spot.

God Bless

Pen