Korova Milkbar (no girls allowed)

[Nightshade]

No women will become what is it called an animale that is both female and male and produce sperm as well as ovaries and just get pregnant like that. Course that would make contraception very difficult if it was all happening like digestion with you not aware of it.

[dramasnot6]

We could always develop a really giant sperm bank to last for centuries and send all men to a different planet....just a thought. :p

[Nightshade]

We wont need to they be extinct althou maybe a giant sperm bank is a good idea because then thier would still be boys being born ...


random thought and if you dont belive in the end of the world ignore it...but isnt one of the 'signs' that women will outnumber men?? or was it the other way around....no I think it was women will out number men and theres a proper ratio and everything.

[Stanislaw]

I'm thinking this is sort of a conspiricy...:D

But I suppose it is possible, there has been cases of testiculair feminiazation in fish in the St. Laurence river due to human hormone pollution (through the sewage system to to various medical products)...so I suppose the opposit could be possible...I just don't know if it would be viable with out serious genetic modification.

[Nightshade]

define: testiculair feminiazation


please:D:D

[Stanislaw]

define: testiculair feminiazation


please:D:D

When the testicles of the fish started to mutate and ceased production of male hormones and started producing female hormones...this occured in very young fish

[Nightshade]

Well that cant be good for the survial of the speicies can it ? :eek2:

[Stanislaw]

Well that cant be good for the survial of the speicies can it ? :eek2:

definetly not...its a pretty dangerous thing, considering people are eating these mutant fish, that are od'd on a cocktail of human hormones, I just have to wonder what it will do to the people.

[kilted exile]

You wouldnt be refering to something similar to this would you?

1. Walking Abortion


n. A derogatory term for a male.

Originates from Feminazi Valerie Solanos’ SCUM (Society for Cutting Up Men) Manifesto.

The male is a biological accident: the Y (male) gene is an incomplete X (female) gene, that is, it has an incomplete set of chromosomes. In other words, the male is an incomplete female, a walking abortion, aborted at the gene stage. To be male is to be deficient, emotionally limited; maleness is a deficiency disease and males are emotional cripples.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Walking+Abortion

[RobinHood3000]

Pfft. We have something they don't - s'called a Y chromosome. :cool:

[Nightshade]

You wouldnt be refering to something similar to this would you?

1. Walking Abortion


n. A derogatory term for a male.

Originates from Feminazi Valerie Solanos’ SCUM (Society for Cutting Up Men) Manifesto.

The male is a biological accident: the Y (male) gene is an incomplete X (female) gene, that is, it has an incomplete set of chromosomes. In other words, the male is an incomplete female, a walking abortion, aborted at the gene stage. To be male is to be deficient, emotionally limited; maleness is a deficiency disease and males are emotional cripples.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Walking+Abortion

Now thats just too nasty men are good for some things....;like heavy lifting opening jars and reaching the top shelf. And choclate.... most boys I know seem to always be giving me biscuits or choclate :D:D

[kathycf]

You wouldnt be refering to something similar to this would you?

1. Walking Abortion


n. A derogatory term for a male.

Originates from Feminazi Valerie Solanos’ SCUM (Society for Cutting Up Men) Manifesto.

The male is a biological accident: the Y (male) gene is an incomplete X (female) gene, that is, it has an incomplete set of chromosomes. In other words, the male is an incomplete female, a walking abortion, aborted at the gene stage. To be male is to be deficient, emotionally limited; maleness is a deficiency disease and males are emotional cripples.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Walking+Abortion

Lol, I know you probably meant your post to be facetious, Kilted, but I am going to ramble on about it anyway. Ms Solanos was apparently not one to let simple biological facts stand in the way of a "good" slogan...(I think she has passed away also)

Once in a while I don't like men either (I have anger issues) but that statement is just nonsensical. There is nothing in biology that states that the Y chromosome is "incomplete". :rolleyes: :lol:

The sex is determined by the chromosomes of the male sperm cell,
at the time of conception. However, development of a
fertilized egg is the same for male and female, until
at a certain stage, due to the genes on the
Y-chromosome, male fetuses start to produce substances
that change the development to follow the 'male'
course.

In fact, you are hitting a difference in 'genotype'
versus 'phenotype' here. The fertilized egg has the
genotype of male or female, but the phenotype (the
'form' you see) is not yet apparent. The difference
between genotype and phenotype is crucial in biology
but it is often ignored. You have just identified a
beautiful example.
-------------
sex is determined genetically at conception
by the inheritance of either two X chromosomes (female) or an X and a Y
(male). The expression of the sex characteristics doesn't begin until about
6 weeks gestation. Before that time the fetus is not really male or female,
but non-specific. The fetus has two non-specific gonads and two sets of
tubes. If the fetus has a Y chromosome, at 6 weeks a gene called the SRY
(sex determining region of the Y) turns on. This gene causes the
degeneration of the female characters and causes the male characters to
develop. It causes the non-specific gonads to become testes and the tubes to
become the vas deferens. Once the testes are mature enough another gene
turns on to start producing testosterone. This causes the internal sex
organs to develop. Part of the testosterone turns into another hormone which
then causes the external sex organs to develop. If the Y chromosome isn't
present the female pattern of development occurs; the female pattern is the
default pattern so-to-speak. The gonads become ovaries and the tubes become
fallopian tubes. So even though the gene for maleness is inherited at
conception, the expression of the trait doesn't begin until about 6 weeks after conception

[B-Mental]

Actually I believe that the "feminisation of testes" is a phenomenon found in many amphibians at the moment. Also saw a show on the alligators of the everglades where something similar is occuring. This is believed to be the result of pollution of certain toxic chemicals (usually having a long half life). Animals that are higher up the food chain tend to accumulate these chemicals storing them in their fat cells. The chemicals are very similar in chemical make up to testosterone, and then occupy the testosterone receptors. A similar situation arises in mammals that eat soy. A sheep herder noticed that the flocks that grazed on soy produced less offspring, the females were more prevalent, and all of the offspring were less productive when mating. This is a theory, and while some scientists disagree it does have some merit.

[Virgil]

Actually I believe that the "feminisation of testes" is a phenomenon found in many amphibians at the moment.

Actually I think it's quite prevelant amongst many "contemporary" men. :lol: I see it all over the place.

Oh that is such a great phrase, "the feminisation of the testes!!" :lol: Who came up with it? I'll have to go back and check. Whoever came up with it should copywrite.

edit: Oh it was Stan that came up with it. :thumbs_up :thumbs_up :thumbs_up :thumbs_up four thumbs up on that. Great term. :)

[Stanislaw]

Pfft. We have something they don't - s'called a Y chromosome. :cool:

heh...and maybe somethings else...:D ahh, heh. bad.:D


Now thats just too nasty men are good for some things....;like heavy lifting opening jars and reaching the top shelf. And choclate.... most boys I know seem to always be giving me biscuits or choclate:D

indeed...we also drive cars, and get money!


Actually I think it's quite prevelant amongst many "contemporary" men. I see it all over the place.

Oh that is such a great phrase, "the feminisation of the testes!!" :lol: Who came up with it? I'll have to go back and check. Whoever came up with it should copywrite.

edit: Oh it was Stan that came up with it. :thumbs_up four thumbs up on that. Great term. :)

"contemporary" men...or contemporary "men"...:D

I would like to accept credit but...actually it originated within the article of a scientific journal on the effects of human pollution of the st. laurence river...

[SleepyWitch]

Actually I think it's quite prevelant amongst many "contemporary" men. :lol: I see it all over the place.


you see it all over the place? :eek: I didn't know you were in the habit of looking at people's testes :eek: :)

as for feminisation, the girls still lead in the cold shower challenge :D

[the Last 13]

No women will become what is it called an animale that is both female and male and produce sperm as well as ovaries and just get pregnant like that. Course that would make contraception very difficult if it was all happening like digestion with you not aware of it.

wouldn't there still be men then as 'they ' would have the reproductive organs of both sexes


We could always develop a really giant sperm bank to last for centuries and send all men to a different planet....just a thought. :p

harsh.......


oops, sorry, I meant hypothesis/ theory, not thesis :)

i heard only men were becoming extinct, but somehow humanity would survive... i can't see how this is supposed to work, though
some incects or thingies can reproduce by giving birth to clones of themselves.. like the young will be an exact genetic copy of the mother. i think the theory i read about says women will develop this ability

asexual reproduction....unlikely as it is a genetic trait of less developed species...as we are more developed as a species our potential for adaptation is much higher and our ability to reproduce through asexual reproduction deminishes


We wont need to they be extinct althou maybe a giant sperm bank is a good idea because then thier would still be boys being born ...


random thought and if you dont belive in the end of the world ignore it...but isnt one of the 'signs' that women will outnumber men?? or was it the other way around....no I think it was women will out number men and theres a proper ratio and everything.

wouldn't that defeat the purpose of jetting us off onto another planet...
about the signs at the end....I dont know...i could ask my sister she's more of a bible thumper....but I wouldn't worry about it as the bible also says no one will know when the end is coming.....so signs or not no one will be waiting for it and have it marked on a calender...


you see it all over the place? :eek: I didn't know you were in the habit of looking at people's testes :eek: :)

as for feminisation, the girls still lead in the cold shower challenge :D

numbers please........ :P


You wouldnt be refering to something similar to this would you?

1. Walking Abortion


n. A derogatory term for a male.

Originates from Feminazi Valerie Solanos’ SCUM (Society for Cutting Up Men) Manifesto.

The male is a biological accident: the Y (male) gene is an incomplete X (female) gene, that is, it has an incomplete set of chromosomes. In other words, the male is an incomplete female, a walking abortion, aborted at the gene stage. To be male is to be deficient, emotionally limited; maleness is a deficiency disease and males are emotional cripples.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Walking+Abortion

heres a thought....as women theologically speaking were created out of man......god took a rib from Adam .....hence he is incomplete....huh huh...come on.......I thought of that just now.........but if you prefer...you can go with the whole hopeless romantic thing (I've kinda thought of it this way for a long time)........that man is incomplete without a woman....incomplete in every way.......

*I'm gonna get in trouble*

[Stanislaw]

you see it all over the place? :eek: I didn't know you were in the habit of looking at people's testes :eek: :)


:D :D :D ahh, that made me laugh!




heres a thought....as women theologically speaking were created out of man......god took a rib from Adam .....hence he is incomplete....huh huh...come on.......I thought of that just now.........but if you prefer...you can go with the whole hopeless romantic thing (I've kinda thought of it this way for a long time)........that man is incomplete without a woman....incomplete in every way.......

*I'm gonna get in trouble*

nice...incomplete without man...its true! they can't get on without us!:D

[OZEED]

Actually I think it's quite prevelant amongst many "contemporary" men. :lol: I see it all over the place.

Oh that is such a great phrase, "the feminisation of the testes!!" :lol: Who came up with it? I'll have to go back and check. Whoever came up with it should copywrite.

edit: Oh it was Stan that came up with it. :thumbs_up :thumbs_up :thumbs_up :thumbs_up four thumbs up on that. Great term. :)

:lol: :lol: :lol:
We better be on guard gentlemen, one hint of "feminisation" of any sort and LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN will be under fire!

[Virgil]

"contemporary" men...or contemporary "men"...:D

Yes, that's right. :D


I would like to accept credit but...actually it originated within the article of a scientific journal on the effects of human pollution of the st. laurence river...
Yeah, but the way you used is more original. ;)


you see it all over the place? :eek: I didn't know you were in the habit of looking at people's testes :eek: :)


:lol: No I don't look at men's testes. You know what I meant. :p

[Scheherazade]

:lol: :lol: :lol:
We better be on guard gentlemen, one hint of "feminisation" of any sort and LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN will be under fire!Hmm... Which part of your 'League of Extraordinary Gentlemen' is so frail and sensitive that it would come under attack with 'one hint of feminisation' and feel threatened?

The league?

The extraordinariness?

The gentlemenliness?

*has an idea but keeps it to herself for the time being*

:p

[Pendragon]

The male is a biological accident: the Y (male) gene is an incomplete X (female) gene, that is, it has an incomplete set of chromosomes. In other words, the male is an incomplete female, a walking abortion, aborted at the gene stage. To be male is to be deficient, emotionally limited; maleness is a deficiency disease and males are emotional cripples.

How does this abomination think he came to exist, I wonder? Want to take a poll on it? we could say:

1.) Stork
2.) Cabbage Leaf
3.) Asexual Reproduction
4.) Fairy's brought him
5.) Popped into existance from another dimention

:p :lol: :lol: :lol:

[AimusSage]

I'm in favour of number 4. The fairy sounds nice, gives me a chance to do my make up. :p

[Nightshade]

:rolleyes:

[OZEED]

Hmm... Which part of your 'League of Extraordinary Gentlemen' is so frail and sensitive that it would come under attack with 'one hint of feminisation' and feel threatened?

The league?

The extraordinariness?

The gentlemenliness?

*has an idea but keeps it to herself for the time being*

:p

Frail? Sensitive? nice choice of words.
*has response but keeps it to himself for the time being :p

[dramasnot6]

:D :D :D ahh, that made me laugh!



nice...incomplete without man...its true! they can't get on without us!:D

It IS very hard to go through a day withought the cringing and eye-rolling that goes along with the observation of men's antics that are the consummate embodyment of sophistication. Truly.

[Nightshade]

It IS very hard to go through a day withought the cringing and eye-rolling that goes along with the observation of men's antics that are the consummate embodyment of sophistication. Truly.

:D,

:D :D :D ahh, that made me laugh!



nice...incomplete without man...its true! they can't get on without us!:D


Stan my friend there is a flaw in your logic, surly the part can be complete without the the whole but the whole can never be complete without a part.:p ;)

[Pendragon]

Stan my friend there is a flaw in your logic, surly the part can be complete without the the whole but the whole can never be complete without a part.:p ;)Night, dear friend, your own logic is shaky. A part can be a complete part, yes, but it is still a part, it isn't whole. This computer I'm typing this on really needs a new graphics card. The computer works fine. The part would make it work better. The part exists on it's own, but it won't produce a thing until it becomes part of this machine. Then it will produce some great images! :) But the part is at the compter store until I get the money to go buy it. :lol:

[kathycf]

Who here gets an urge to scream after viewing this picture?

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h56/kathycf/classicmime.jpg

I know, this is off-topic, but...the mime is a guy so it is loosely related. :D

[Stanislaw]

Night, dear friend, your own logic is shaky. A part can be a complete part, yes, but it is still a part, it isn't whole. This computer I'm typing this on really needs a new graphics card. The computer works fine. The part would make it work better. The part exists on it's own, but it won't produce a thing until it becomes part of this machine. Then it will produce some great images! :) But the part is at the compter store until I get the money to go buy it. :lol:

:D very well said!


Who here gets an urge to scream after viewing this picture?

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h56/kathycf/classicmime.jpg

I know, this is off-topic, but...the mime is a guy so it is loosely related. :D

:D He looks like a 007 villain

[SleepyWitch]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarghhhh I hate mimes! delete that pic pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeassssssssssse.
what i hate most is when they wear black tights and do that trick where they pretend to climb up a rope but there is no rope... or when they feel an imaginary object to show what it is.... grrrrrrrrrr
arrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh it makes my flesh crawl

[Stanislaw]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarghhhh I hate mimes! delete that pic pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeassssssssssse.
what i hate most is when they wear black tights and do that trick where they pretend to climb up a rope but there is no rope... or when they feel an imaginary object to show what it is.... grrrrrrrrrr
arrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh it makes my flesh crawl

Kill the mimes! :D

[Nightshade]

Night, dear friend, your own logic is shaky. A part can be a complete part, yes, but it is still a part, it isn't whole. This computer I'm typing this on really needs a new graphics card. The computer works fine. The part would make it work better. The part exists on it's own, but it won't produce a thing until it becomes part of this machine. Then it will produce some great images! :) But the part is at the compter store until I get the money to go buy it. :lol:

no it wasnt well said which was what was wrong withit. Say You have a box of balls. The box of balls isnt complete without all the balls . but a single ball from the box is complete of itself. ( right before I do this no offense meant!)

But if eve was made from a rib then a complete thing was made from somthing that while complete in its self( not half a rib, or any other part of the rib But THE rib) was part of somthing else. But poor old adam lost rib in the process so he is missing somthing, that eve isnt because she didnt actually lose anything.

:D :p

[Stanislaw]

no it wasnt well said which was what was wrong withit. Say You have a box of balls. The box of balls isnt complete without all the balls . but a single ball from the box is complete of itself. ( right before I do this no offense meant!)

But if eve was made from a rib then a complete thing was made from somthing that while complete in its self( not half a rib, or any other part of the rib But THE rib) was part of somthing else. But poor old adam lost rib in the process so he is missing somthing, that eve isnt because she didnt actually lose anything.

:D :p

ahh...but the ball is merely a ball, not a box full of balls, so, she is merely a rib...not a complete adam.

[kathycf]

Gah, are we still on with that other topic? Parts and ribs and that other "stuff"? I can go on about it myself but....http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h56/kathycf/smileys/bah.gif

(sorry)

[bluevictim]

That's what happens when women butt in!

Back on topic:
http://www.italiaspeed.com/2006/cars/ferrari/03/f430gt/ferrari_f430gt_201.jpg
http://www.skinz.org/cars/lamborghini-wallpapers/lamborghini-murcielago-roadster-wallpapers-6.jpg
http://www.ruotequipe.com/media/marche/porsche/RSX_Black_997_01.jpg

[kilted exile]

Hmm the second one is good, but I still want one of these



Bah, you can keep your stupid merc. I want one of these:

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/uploads/new/9459.jpg

(1935 Bentley, complete with running board)

[kathycf]

That's what happens when women butt in!

Back on topic
*cheers*
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h56/kathycf/misc/1024jayFans2.jpg

Although I would never dream of butting in...:p

*edit* is that a...a woman in the middle there?

[bluevictim]

Classic!

I'd like one of these, as well:
http://proteamcorvette.com/cars/photos/327X.jpg

EDIT: I was responding to kilted exile's post (some woman got in the way :) )

[Nightshade]

*cheers*
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h56/kathycf/misc/1024jayFans2.jpg

Although I would never dream of butting in...:p

*edit* is that a...a woman in the middle there?

Need to keep that pic for jays birthday!! and you what I want? TOP GEAR!!
I think its starting agin next week:D
http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!:banana: and hurrah for the hamster!
Although I still hold that they only reason they never show or tell who The Stig is is because The stig is a She!:nod:

[kathycf]

Night, I think that must be Jay herself in the middle of that picture. :idea: :lol:


EDIT: I was responding to kilted exile's post (some woman got in the way :) )
Smartypants. :p

[Nightshade]

Night, I think that must be Jay herself in the middle of that picture. :idea: :lol:


Noooo....you think:alien: :lol:

[kathycf]

Indeed I do. Of course if we ask her, I am sure she will deny it...:p :lol:

[Pendragon]

Well, we know this much about the lady? in the middle-- she-is-not-to-be-named. Why does that sound familiar? ;)

[kathycf]

That she is inscrutably lovely? :lol:

[Jay]

That lady in the middle certainly isn't who you think she is :p

[kathycf]

Is that a definate denial? It is almost a little ambiguous...:p :lol:

[Jay]

A definite denial, yes, I have never seen the lady nor her two partners-in-crime in my life :D... though I do like blue, just not that much :p

[kathycf]

Ok, I believe you. I don't think it is possible that anybody likes blue as much as those three anyway. :lol:

[the Last 13]

been busy the past few days......it looks as though I havn't missed much.... who is still in on the cold shower challenge (quick sum up).....I've had 4 so far (12,13,16,18) ....so the conversation went from...the possibility of the loss/removal of males from the planet.....breifly touched on mimes and cars...and has now ventured onto the popularity of the color blue.....??????????????????

what should I think?????

[dramasnot6]

I have had 5 cold showers

Think Blue! :D

[Virgil]

I have had none. :D


P.S. I hope Drama doesn't hate me. I know she thinks I ruined two of her threads, but I'm just expressing my opinion. ;)

[Madhuri]

I had about 6 and a half...:D now I am back to hot showers. :)

[B-Mental]

I've had several saunas, and a multitude of blessed hot showers. The kind where the steam is so thick you can cut it with a knife. You know how it feels so hot at the begining, but then you turn it up after you get used to it, until finally you can turn it up no higher. You hang your head down in jetting stream and just let the muscles relax...all of your cares drift away...and you start to drift off to that place that no one knows about...its almost a dream

Ohh, I think I am gonna take another shower. Toodles all you poor cold shower freaks! This hot shower cat is going for a long, hot, steamy, heavenly shower.

[Madhuri]

Enjoy your shower B, just dont burn yourself :D

[Virgil]

I had about 6 and a half...:D now I am back to hot showers. :)

Six and a half? What happened on the half (the seventh)? Did you just give up and say what's the point? :lol:

[Madhuri]

Six and a half? What happened on the half (the seventh)? Did you just give up and say what's the point? :lol:

Half less, as I used a little, very little warm water. And ya, my will power is not so strong, I guess. I'll continue my hot showers until I am again bitten by this madness bug...:D

[Stanislaw]

I be kinda likin thison if were still on about cars...
http://rivieracarprestige.com/mariage16b.JPG

but uh...what else can we talk about???:D

[Nightshade]

well if we are talking about dream cars then http://www.weaintcool.com/pictures/articles/top10cars/VWBeetle.gif only this isnt quite the model I want the I want is the reeeeeeeeally old one with headlights that are whats it called rectangular with a curved top? and slightly longer and slimmer than the very round modle.

[AimusSage]

If we are talking good looking cars, I like this one quite a lot.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/Aimussage/maserati-quattroporte-execu.jpg

[Schokokeks]

If we are talking good looking cars, I like this one quite a lot.
Errr...in case you're planning to cruise round in that one, do put my jar on the back seat, will you ? It looks like being made for crashing into something because of excess of speed, and I don't want to see that coming through the front shield. Thanks :D

[AimusSage]

Errr...in case you're planning to cruise round in that one, do put my jar on the back seat, will you ? It looks like being made for crashing into something because of excess of speed, and I don't want to see that coming through the front shield. Thanks :D
Don't worry, I'll get a child seat for your jar Cookie. :p It's very safe. :D

[Nightshade]

If we are talking good looking cars, I like this one quite a lot.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/Aimussage/maserati-quattroporte-execu.jpg

I dont see whats so nice about that looks like a pretty normal car to me....:p

[AimusSage]

I dont see whats so nice about that looks like a pretty normal car to me....:p
Barbarian!

[SleepyWitch]

hey girls and guys, how's it going with the cold shower challenge?
congrats on your 6 and a half cold showers Maddie! you're tougher than most of the guys in here :)
I'm still in the race although I will admit I hated my cold shower last morning.

nice car Aimus (the red one, i mean). what make and model is it?

[kathycf]

As long we are on the topic of cars....this is my favorite. :p

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h56/kathycf/wooden-toy-zoom3.jpg

[Madhuri]

I be kinda likin thison if were still on about cars...
but uh...what else can we talk about???:D


well if we are talking about dream cars then only this isnt quite the model I want the I want is the reeeeeeeeally old one with headlights that are whats it called rectangular with a curved top? and slightly longer and slimmer than the very round modle.

Stan, Night, nice cars, I really like vintage cars...:nod:


As long we are on the topic of cars....this is my favorite. :p



Now this is called a car, I can anytime go on a ride in this one....:cool:

[kathycf]

Stan, Night, nice cars, I really like vintage cars...:nod:

Now this is called a car, I can anytime go on a ride in this one....:cool:
The advantage to it is that it is surprisingly gas efficent. I could get a matching little sidecar for it and then we could have a grand old time driving around. Sidecars are usually for motorcyles, but what the heck.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h56/kathycf/pannonia20250cc20com20sidecar20Duna.jpg

[AimusSage]

hey girls and guys, how's it going with the cold shower challenge?
congrats on your 6 and a half cold showers Maddie! you're tougher than most of the guys in here :)
I'm still in the race although I will admit I hated my cold shower last morning.

nice car Aimus (the red one, i mean). what make and model is it?
It is a Maserati Quattroporte. the best four door sedan to come out of itialy in a long time. Alfa Romeos are nice, but nothing beats this. Not even the 159.

[Schokokeks]

Don't worry, I'll get a child seat for your jar Cookie. :p It's very safe. :D
Ok, fine with me, but put me on the back seat, please ! I don't wanna visually witness you driving that thing :p.

[AimusSage]

Ok, fine with me, but put me on the back seat, please ! I don't wanna visually witness you driving that thing :p.
My advice to you ...close your eyes because I'm putting you in the front seat regardless of your protests. :p You'll not get in the back seat that easily.

[Schokokeks]

My advice to you ...close your eyes because I'm putting you in the front seat regardless of your protests. :p You'll not get in the back seat that easily.
Tss ! I can't close my eyes if I know you'll soon to crash into the next wall ! I prefer having my eyes open but not being forced to face the danger.

Anyway, what I originally wanted to say, before I started that protest which I knew to be leading nowhere, since you are probably driving at the moment, and not paying full attention to my dire needs - I originally wanted to tell you that, sorry, but I think your car looks quite posh :p. (Do I sound like the working-class kid that I am ? :D)

Now I've probably ruined my chances of ever getting safely stored on the back seat forever... :rolleyes: :D

[AimusSage]

Tss ! I can't close my eyes if I know you'll soon to crash into the next wall ! I prefer having my eyes open but not being forced to face the danger.

Anyway, what I originally wanted to say, before I started that protest which I knew to be leading nowhere, since you are probably driving at the moment, and not paying full attention to my dire needs - I originally wanted to tell you that, sorry, but I think your car looks quite posh :p. (Do I sound like the working-class kid that I am ? :D)

Now I've probably ruined my chances of ever getting safely stored on the back seat forever... :rolleyes: :D

POSH!!?!!?!?!? it has beautiful lines. A real beauty, not a posh over the top car, but a real modern design.

And you have just been demoted to the boot for saying it is posh :p

[Schokokeks]

And you have just been demoted to the boot for saying it is posh :p
Oh well, boot is fine. That way, you'll actually be hitting the wall/a lamp-post/a shop window with your car's beautiful front, while I in the boot might still have a considerable chance of surviving :D.

[kathycf]

You guys need a sidecar...Poor Cookie won't be able to breathe well in the trunk and her jar might break.

[AimusSage]

You guys need a sidecar...Poor Cookie won't be able to breathe well in the trunk and her jar might break.
Not to worry, her jar has a compelete respitrory system installed. and not to mention the fact that I'll stop often for her to take a look around and enjoy the scenerey, I'm just that kind of guy alway showing a cookie in need the best sights. :D

[kathycf]

, I'm just that kind of guy alway showing a cookie in need the best sights. :D
Then let no person say that chivalry is dead! :p

[Stanislaw]

I dont see whats so nice about that looks like a pretty normal car to me....:p

Philistine, Barbarian! Roman! :D


POSH!!?!!?!?!? it has beautiful lines. A real beauty, not a posh over the top car, but a real modern design.

And you have just been demoted to the boot for saying it is posh :p

good call! :D

[Nightshade]

Well really its 4 wheels is sort of shaped like a saloon car but with fancy wheels, front thing and is closer to the ground....which is always a minus in my book.

[Schokokeks]

Then let no person say that chivalry is dead! :p
Yes, that indeed is true. You're the noblest driver of a posh car I ever met, Aimus ;).


Well really its 4 wheels is sort of shaped like a saloon car but with fancy wheels, front thing and is closer to the ground....which is always a minus in my book.
Now, why don't all guys listen to Night's excellent taste when buying a car ?! The streets would be a far finer place ;).

[the Last 13]

hey girls and guys, how's it going with the cold shower challenge?



I'm out......congrats to all the LADIES who are still in .....I'm not sure there were any other guys in this but congrats to any of you who were willing to accept the challenge.....

............I just have to say it wasn't so much the cold that got to me...

............I felt (that's right I used the word felt....but don't get your hopes up)......grimy.........

[SleepyWitch]

hehe, poor Last13
i took a hot shower today because my back gave me trouble... I'll go back to cold ones tomorrow though...
yeah, i do feel a bit grimy too...
maybe we should change the rules to: one hot shower a week is allowed but the others have to be cold? (which doesn't mean it's ok to take only one shower a week :) )

[the Last 13]

how bout' you ladies decide if I'm back in .....and if the one hot shower a week rule is in.....

I have to say though I've already had 2 hot showers now......get back to me ASAP ....or I might have more......

[Madhuri]

:lol: Do we have another Robin in making :p :D

Well, about the rule, Sleepy will tell you about it, in the mean time why dont you go take a few more...;) :lol:

[the Last 13]

:lol: Do we have another Robin in making :p :D

Well, about the rule, Sleepy will tell you about it, in the mean time why dont you go take a few more...;) :lol:

Robin????? I've seen a few posts here and there.......tell me what would make me a 'Robin in the making'?

.....just curious........

..... and I can hold off on taking a shower til' tomorrow so hopefully someone we'll get to me by then....or I might just feel guilty about taking a hot shower... you wouldn't want my guilt on your consciences....would you? ....jk

[RobinHood3000]

I'm not if she's referring to my flirting (in which case, feel free to become my apprentice) or to my lack of pirate hygiene. :confused:

[Madhuri]

I'm not if she's referring to my flirting (in which case, feel free to become my apprentice) or to my lack of pirate hygiene. :confused:

:lol:

I would say he will be better trained if he becomes your apprentice...;)

You know you are good Robin, especially with you know...;) and dirtying the deck too, Jay had to do a lot of work cleaning...:lol:

just kidding...:D :D

[Scheherazade]

More men than women take teddy bears to bed when sleeping alone, it is claimed.

According to a new study, some 20% of men admitted to cuddling a teddy, compared to 15% of women.

Of the 2,000 people surveyed, 63% said they needed a bedtime cuddle to sleep.

Eight percent of women admitted spraying their pillow or nightclothes with their partner's aftershave when away from home on their own.

But only 3% of men resorted to using their partner's perfume to offset loneliness.

Nearly three in five people felt lonely sleeping without their partner, while 16% found it difficult to get to sleep and 9% felt scared.

The survey revealed actress Angelina Jolie was the person men would most like to cuddle up with.

Women opted for Pirates Of The Caribbean star Johnny Depp.

The study was commissioned by hotel chain Travelodge which says it is now piloting a 'Cuddillow'.

This is a cuddling pillow which is two-and-a-half feet long and has two arms for guests to snuggle into.http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91059-1255722,00.html

[optimisticnad]

I would have been better of without the above knowledge! Lol.

Wer being replaced by teddies.

Cuddling? Is that a euphemism?

[Matt the Man]

Wassup, Dudes? I'm new...:D , so chill out.


You ---> :flare: :bawling: <---- Me.

[optimisticnad]

Hi 'Matt the Man'. Just the place for you to be. I shouldnt be here either but how else can i welcome you? Lol.

stop crying, be a man!

[kilted exile]

stop crying, be a man!

Cant believe I am actually typing this but I agree with Opti Crying is only allowed when Drunk & no one is looking, when you get hit in the sack, or due to sporting events. No emotions should be shown at any other time.

[optimisticnad]

Cant believe I am actually typing this but I agree with Opti Crying is only allowed when Drunk & no one is looking, when you get hit in the sack, or due to sporting events. No emotions should be shown at any other time.

Cant believe I am actually typing this but I agree with kilted exile :lol: crying is only aloud when no one is looking, unless your a girl in which case you should make a career out of it.

No emotions at any other time? My my. uv just ruled out so many fun high emotions.

[Redzeppelin]

REVIVED.

Well, gentlemen - what shall we talk about in the absence of the ladies?

[Turk]

Ladies? :D

[Redzeppelin]

Ladies? :D

Suitable category - now we need a subcategory of sorts (of which there are many to choose).

[Turk]

Beatiful Ladies? :D

[Redzeppelin]

"Beautiful" in what way? I suppose I might simply ask why is feminine beauty so incredibly powerful to men? (Or is that question too high-brow for a men only discussion?) Why does it almost hurt sometimes to see a beautiful woman?

[Turk]

Hehe, i was kinda teasing, the most important beauty is soul beauty to me. We will all lose our hairs, our skin will be like rubber, and every gifts of youth will be gone few years later. Then everything you have will be yourself. Your soul. It will always stay with you... Anyway i will continue;


Why does it almost hurt sometimes to see a beautiful woman?

Because we are ugly.:lol:

[Redzeppelin]

Because we are ugly.:lol:

Well there ya go. So attractive guys don't experience this? What are you trying to say? :D

But regardless of how I feel about my own looks, I know it still hurts sometimes to look at a beautiful woman (which by the way does not happen for every pretty woman out there - only a very small few have the ability to make my stomach feel funny).

[Turk]

Hmm... Ok i am being %100 serious. I never felt something funny in my stomach when i see beatiful girls. Or it didn't hurt me when i see beatiful girls. Because i know i don't have enough money to buy their love.:lol:

[Redzeppelin]

Hmm... Ok i am being %100 serious. I never felt something funny in my stomach when i see beatiful girls. Or it didn't hurt me when i see beatiful girls. Because i know i don't have enough money to buy their love.:lol:


Uh Oh. Into what dark corners do we tread?

[Turk]

Uh Oh. Into what dark corners do we tread?

We tread into dark corners where a group of femminist may suddenly attack on us and beat us till death.:lol:

[Redzeppelin]

We tread into dark corners where a group of femminist may suddenly attack on us and beat us till death.:lol:

Well, there's always that chance, since radical feminism sees any "no girls allowed" sign as an invitation.

[Virgil]

REVIVED.

Well, gentlemen - what shall we talk about in the absence of the ladies?

Oh great. I used to like this thread. How come you guys are talking about your looks? We should be talking about cute the girls look. :D

[Redzeppelin]

Oh great. I used to like this thread. How come you guys are talking about your looks? We should be talking about cute the girls look. :D

Motion sustained. They are lovely, aren't they? Here's a question: excluding the parts they conceal in public (which are getting to be fewer and fewer these days), what is the most attractive aspect of a woman? (That qualification should keep us reasonably safe... :lol: )

[Turk]

what is the most attractive aspect of a woman? (That qualification should keep us reasonably safe... :lol: )

I am not sure. Probably her flesh.:lol:

Ok being serious. For me most attractive woman is a smart, cute (behaviours i mean) and good one. Beauty comes after these kinds of things for me. What about you buddies? Virgil is married though, he can't answer this.:lol:

[Virgil]

Well, a pretty face is first priority. But then I always liked a nice round back side in tight jeans. :D

[Turk]

Well, a pretty face is first priority. But then I always liked a nice round back side in tight jeans. :D

If you act this way you will be old and alone guy when you are 60. You should say, i like women like my wife, and there's no woman like my wife!:D

[kathycf]

... I know it still hurts sometimes to look at a beautiful woman (which by the way does not happen for every pretty woman out there - only a very small few have the ability to make my stomach feel funny).
Um, are you sure that is isn't something you ate? :p

Peace, gentlemen...we now return your thread to you already in progress. [/end of silly feminist comment] ;)

[Virgil]

If you act this way you will be old and alone guy when you are 60. You should say, i like women like my wife, and there's no woman like my wife!:D

Hey, I said "liked," passed tense. Now I'm just a humble husband who only thinks about his wife. :D

[jon1jt]

Hey, I said "liked," passed tense. Now I'm just a humble husband who only thinks about his wife. :D



aw c'mon virge, branch out a little. :p

[Niamh]

oh dear! definitely shouldnt have popped my head in hear!:lol:
Cant you lot not talk about something other that beautiful women? How about you general nice women or are you going to tell me that we dont exist and that we are all money seeking preyinmantis'?:p

[Redzeppelin]

oh dear! definitely shouldnt have popped my head in hear!:lol:
Cant you lot not talk about something other that beautiful women? How about you general nice women or are you going to tell me that we dont exist and that we are all money seeking preyinmantis'?:p

The danger of opening a "single gender" thread is that we'll "let our hair down" a bit and get caught doing so :D . I don't think any guy on this thread over the age of 30 is "fooled" by beauty anymore (at least I hope so); I, personally, know that beauty can often hide the most empty and vacuous of female minds, and that such emptiness wears very thin, very quickly. Personality and attitude go a long way in providing "sexiness" - that I know and believe. BUT: there is no denying that feminine beauty is very, very powerful to a male - but "powerful" does not equal "valuable" or "meaningful." For example, I can easily get slack-jawed looking at some of today's female celebs - but settle down with one and make a relationship? Nah - I can't see that. The teenager thinks that the beauty is the woman; the mature man knows that the beauty is only the first "layer" of that woman, and that what lies beneath will either enhance that first layer, or make it totally meaningless.

(OK boys - where were we?)

[Turk]

We where in a corner where we got warnings from Amazons. Fortunately you successfully changed the subject to protect us. :D

[Redzeppelin]

Right - so maybe we should shift the topic from what part of a woman is most attractive to what about a woman besides her body creates the impression of "sexiness"? Are there certain mannerisms, gestures, tones, expressions, ways of dressing or behaving that produce such an effect?

(We are free, of course, to degenerate back to the treasures of the female body at anytime though, being guys like we are. Maybe the girls won't notice? :D )

[Turk]

I don't believe in sexiness. It's just something feed by desires of genders.

Hmmm... That's really weird. You made me realize that i've never consider a woman as sexy. Hmmm...

[Redzeppelin]

WHOA. Come on...you're telling me that there have not been certain women who - by something about them - totally captivated you? Really?

[Turk]

You mean with her charm right? No. I look for a good heart first. I easily realize if a girl tries to be sexy and it makes me pity and despise her, because someone who has self respect won't do that.

[Redzeppelin]

You mean with her charm right? No. I look for a good heart first. I easily realize if a girl tries to be sexy and it makes me pity and despise her, because someone who has self respect won't do that.

Right - and I agree. But I'm talking about things she does that you find sexy more than her conscious attempt to be so. As well, I'm talking about those things that "speak" to you before you ever get a chance (if any) to know what her heart is like. "Charm" is pointing in the general direction, but are there specific things she might do or say that create the impression of "charm" or "sexiness" or whatever you'd like to call it?

[Turk]

Hmmm... I like sweet smilings and meaningful eyes.

[Redzeppelin]

The smile is a big one, yes. I find it irresistable when a woman touches my arm when she's talking to me. Dangling earrings also work for me. I also like it when women enjoy their femininity - when they appear to really like being a girl and enjoying "girly" things (careful! tread lightly... where are the radical feminists hiding?).

[kilted exile]

Well seeing as we are already discussing it:

SEXY

Belly buttons
Glasses
Pierced Eyebrow
Tattoo (singular, too many tattoos stop being sexy)
Corsets

NOT SEXY
Smoking
Nose studs
Overabundance of tattoos
Too much makeup
Thongs showing outside of jeans

[Turk]

(careful! tread lightly... where are the radical feminists hiding?).

They are not hiding anymore; i heard all of them had surgery and changed their gender. We don't have to worry about them anymore, because they are man as much as we do.:D

I understand you like when a woman touch your arm, but i don't like it personally. Actually hmmm... That's weird too. That never happened to me. No girls touch my arms; actually nobody touches my arms while talking. :lol:

[Moira]

I so like this thread:lol: :lol: :lol:

Red, what you said about women enjoying their femininity - when they appear to really like being a girl and enjoying "girly" things ...... is so sweet and it's a shame most of us sometimes forget or avoid for some reason being feminine.....:(

[the silent x]

i like it when a girl can talk intelligently(not just a long ramble) for a long time, i also don't like girls that are hot and know so they flaunt it. my perfect girl would be laid back, quiet, subtle, and compassionate

[Turk]

i like it when a girl can talk intelligently(not just a long ramble) for a long time, i also don't like girls that are hot and know so they flaunt it. my perfect girl would be laid back, quiet, subtle, and compassionate

....and she should have fifth degree black belt in karate.

[Virgil]

The smile is a big one, yes. I find it irresistable when a woman touches my arm when she's talking to me. Dangling earrings also work for me. I also like it when women enjoy their femininity - when they appear to really like being a girl and enjoying "girly" things (careful! tread lightly... where are the radical feminists hiding?).

Excellent!! Yes. "Enjoying their femininity" or put another way confident in their womanhood. I'm not sure I would agree about the touching though. I think that transforms the conversation, at least in my mind. I think the suggestion would be so sexual that I would be paralyzed. :lol:

[Redzeppelin]

I so like this thread:lol: :lol: :lol:

Red, what you said about women enjoying their femininity - when they appear to really like being a girl and enjoying "girly" things ...... is so sweet and it's a shame most of us sometimes forget or avoid for some reason being feminine.....:(

I think (and this is very much my opinion, though I've heard other writers voice it as well) that men become more masculine in the presence of a "feminine" woman. Some of the comments I made in the "Will feminism replace patriarchy?" thread were meant in this vein - that women who like being women - who like pretty, lacy things - who like things like nail polish and earrings and such - are very, very attractive (and this has little if anything to do with their actual looks - it has to do with their joy at being a girl). I think many women are disappointed in how men act these days - but I wonder if part of our "wimpiness" isn't due to the fact that many women attempt to be "masculine" (i.e. "I don't need a man - I'm self-sufficient") when, in reality, the woman who "needs" a man is very, very attractive to a man - it brings out our protective "white knight" nature. Anyway... thank you.



Excellent!! Yes. "Enjoying their femininity" or put another way confident in their womanhood. I'm not sure I would agree about the touching though. I think that transforms the conversation, at least in my mind. I think the suggestion would be so sexual that I would be paralyzed. :lol:

Well, I mean when the touching is clearly how this person relates to all people - male or female - and it's fairly obvious that it's not meant in a sexual way. It just really works for me - like it says "I like physical contact" - and sexual or not, that's always sexy in a woman ;)

[Virgil]

Well, I mean when the touching is clearly how this person relates to all people - male or female - and it's fairly obvious that it's not meant in a sexual way. It just really works for me - like it says "I like physical contact" - and sexual or not, that's always sexy in a woman ;)

Oh I'm sure that is how she means it, but my imagination would run wild. :lol:

[Redzeppelin]

Oh I'm sure that is how she means it, but my imagination would run wild. :lol:

Well, yeah - hence the "sexiness" of the gesture :D

[Brigitte]

I definitely prefer this thread to the girls one at the moment. The girls are talking about manly shoes and whatnot. Ahaha. I definitely don't appreciate the too TOO practical views of some women. Where's the "just go with the flow" people?! And geez, if something, like a car, is ever so pretty, why not? :lol:

[Virgil]

I definitely prefer this thread to the girls one at the moment. The girls are talking about manly shoes and whatnot. Ahaha. I definitely don't appreciate the too TOO practical views of some women. Where's the "just go with the flow" people?! And geez, if something, like a car, is ever so pretty, why not? :lol:

Good points Brigitte. I checked the girls thread and they were talking about how to paint their toe nails. :lol: :lol: I don't mind if you join in our conversation. :) The girls over there get into a hissy fit if any of the guys barge in. :p

[Turk]

Oh hey, you reminded me just now; did i ever tell you how i cut my toe nails.

[Redzeppelin]

Why on earth would we allow the reasonably stimulating conversation about what makes women sexy descend into a discussion about your feet?? Yikes.

[kathycf]

Good points Brigitte. I checked the girls thread and they were talking about how to paint their toe nails. :lol: :lol: I don't mind if you join in our conversation. :) The girls over there get into a hissy fit if any of the guys barge in. :p
Well, I think the pedicure talk was in the "Girl Chat" thread and the shoe talk was in the "Anyone for coffee, no boys allowed" thread. Hissy fits? I think that was just Opti. ;) You are welcome to join the conversation (but Niamh will make you put on a wig first....) :p

[Bakiryu]

Hullo!!!


Am I allowed to write here *wonders* I certainly prefer to takl about cars than toe nail polish (what's the point of toenail polish anyway?)

[Redzeppelin]

Good grief...how tough is it to keep guys on the topic of women?

[Bakiryu]

I take it you're being ironic, red?

[Redzeppelin]

I take it you're being ironic, red?

Mayyyybe. We do actually seem to be shifting around from Turk's toes to cars...neither of which really holds much interest for me. We'll see where we go from here...:)

[kiobe]

Man this is a sad state of affairs. My 2nd car.http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w312/kiobe/DSC02253.jpg

My guitars.http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w312/kiobe/DSCN0600.jpg

Stacy London from What not to wear.http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w312/kiobe/200px-Stacy_london.jpg

[Redzeppelin]

Man this is a sad state of affairs. My 2nd car.http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w312/kiobe/DSC02253.jpg

My guitars.http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w312/kiobe/DSCN0600.jpg

Stacy London from What not to wear.http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w312/kiobe/200px-Stacy_london.jpg

I already made my feelings about cars pretty clear, but the second and third pictures speak an attractive language to me (though I'm a Fender Strat man myself).

[kiobe]

Sorry Red, I got into this late, what did you say about cars? The blond guitar is a drop top strat.

[Redzeppelin]

Post #909 - I basically said that cars don't "do it" for me as a discussion topic (though of course I'm still a guy and enjoy fast machines); when I revived the thread I asked for a topic and women came up (:D) but in the last serveral posts, we'ver drifted elsewhere. Your fine illustrated post was a nice return to form (pun intended) - all the curves (metal, wood, flesh) are appreciated!

[kiobe]

Post #909 - I basically said that cars don't "do it" for me as a discussion topic (though of course I'm still a guy and enjoy fast machines); when I revived the thread I asked for a topic and women came up (:D) but in the last serveral posts, we'ver drifted elsewhere. Your fine illustrated post was a nice return to form (pun intended) - all the curves (metal, wood, flesh) are appreciated!

Do you play guitar?

[the silent x]

....and she should have fifth degree black belt in karate.

and why would she need that, i have my first dan in taekwondo (1st degree black belt) and am testing in october for my first dan in hapkido, i will be able to take on almost anyone.

[Mortis Anarchy]

Am I welcome??:confused: I like hearing both sides of the story...I promise not to attack anyone!!! I'm pretty laid back...and hopefully all of you are true gentlemen that wouldn't say horrible things;)


and why would she need that, i have my first dan in taekwondo (1st degree black belt) and am testing in october for my first dan in hapkido, i will be able to take on almost anyone.

I'm a black belt in Tae Kwon Do!?!

[the silent x]

why the question mark turk?

[Moira]

I think (and this is very much my opinion, though I've heard other writers voice it as well) that men become more masculine in the presence of a "feminine" woman. Some of the comments I made in the "Will feminism replace patriarchy?" thread were meant in this vein - that women who like being women - who like pretty, lacy things - who like things like nail polish and earrings and such - are very, very attractive (and this has little if anything to do with their actual looks - it has to do with their joy at being a girl). I think many women are disappointed in how men act these days - but I wonder if part of our "wimpiness" isn't due to the fact that many women attempt to be "masculine" (i.e. "I don't need a man - I'm self-sufficient") when, in reality, the woman who "needs" a man is very, very attractive to a man - it brings out our protective "white knight" nature. Anyway... thank you.

Indeed women are disappointed in how man act nowadays but i think it's a valid theory the other way around also...... and both sexes are to blame, that's for sure.

Women have been working on developing the masculine side sometimes at the expense of the feminine side, and this 'liberation' has placed men in the role of the enemy, and this has prevented many women from using their feminine side in interacting with men. That's where i believe we went wrong. Although i hate generalisations.....

I think the 'I don't need a man - I'm self-sufficient' theory is just a cover up or a myth ..... although it's definetly better being alone than in a bad relationship.

And just like you said about men being more 'masculine' in the presence of a 'feminine' woman, it does work the other way around, the sad thing is that although we seem to want the same things, there are not so many good examples out there...... not so many happy ' accidents'.

[papayahed]

Originally Posted by Redzeppelin
I think (and this is very much my opinion, though I've heard other writers voice it as well) that men become more masculine in the presence of a "feminine" woman. Some of the comments I made in the "Will feminism replace patriarchy?" thread were meant in this vein - that women who like being women - who like pretty, lacy things - who like things like nail polish and earrings and such - are very, very attractive (and this has little if anything to do with their actual looks - it has to do with their joy at being a girl). I think many women are disappointed in how men act these days - but I wonder if part of our "wimpiness" isn't due to the fact that many women attempt to be "masculine" (i.e. "I don't need a man - I'm self-sufficient") when, in reality, the woman who "needs" a man is very, very attractive to a man - it brings out our protective "white knight" nature. Anyway... thank you.
Indeed women are disappointed in how man act nowadays but i think it's a valid theory the other way around also...... and both sexes are to blame, that's for sure.

Women have been working on developing the masculine side sometimes at the expense of the feminine side, and this 'liberation' has placed men in the role of the enemy, and this has prevented many women from using their feminine side in interacting with men. That's where i believe we went wrong. Although i hate generalisations.....

I think the 'I don't need a man - I'm self-sufficient' theory is just a cover up or a myth ..... although it's definetly better being alone than in a bad relationship.

And just like you said about men being more 'masculine' in the presence of a 'feminine' woman, it does work the other way around, the sad thing is that although we seem to want the same things, there are not so many good examples out there...... not so many happy ' accidents'.

Interesting topic. I'll throw in my 0.02. I think you both are essentially right to a degree.

[Virgil]

I guess we'll have to let the women in here. :p As long as there is no talking about toe nails and curly hair. :D That means you Papaya. :p :D

[Scheherazade]

I guess we'll have to let the women in here. :p As long as there is no talking about toe nails and curly hair. :D It surely depends on whose toe nails and curly hair we are talking about!

:D

[Virgil]

It surely depends on whose toe nails and curly hair we are talking about!

:D

No one specific. I meant in general. Toe nails are soooo boring. :sick: :p :D

[papayahed]

I guess we'll have to let the women in here. :p As long as there is no talking about toe nails and curly hair. :D That means you Papaya. :p :D

:D :D I was getting ready to pontificate on the wonders of the website I found that sells perfume oils. :D

Actually I was going to throw my opinion into the mix regarding the feminity of women in todays world.....your loss:D

[Turk]

Why on earth would we allow the reasonably stimulating conversation about what makes women sexy descend into a discussion about your feet?? Yikes.

Don't say "yikes"! I have feet like Michalengelo's David. In fact if i had take of my shoes in the center of city and start to swing my feet every single woman would get so affected.

Btw, i saw your car, you must be really old to use such a car! Hahahaha that must be a classic!


and why would she need that, i have my first dan in taekwondo (1st degree black belt) and am testing in october for my first dan in hapkido, i will be able to take on almost anyone.

Seee... I knew you did. That's why i said she must have at least 5th degree dan so she will be able to protect herself!


I'm a black belt in Tae Kwon Do!?!

Haha! So what!? I saw your picture, you can't even hurt a shy Panda in China (though i could keep punching that peaceful Panda's face). If you are not even able to punch a peaceful Panda, what's the meaning of having black belt? Point of black belt and all dans is having a prove of that you have the ability to beat people better than cops.


It surely depends on whose toe nails and curly hair we are talking about!
:D

Did i ever tell you about my curly hair?:lol:

[Virgil]

:D :D I was getting ready to pontificate on the wonders of the website I found that sells perfume oils. :D

Actually I was going to throw my opinion into the mix regarding the feminity of women in todays world.....your loss:D

Oh please do, I'm curious. That seems like a good discussion topic. It should have its own thread though. This thread is more for kidding around than for serious topics. :)

[papayahed]

This thread is more for kidding around than for serious topics. :)


Don't blame me - y'all (I'm learning southern talk) are the ones that brought it up!!:lol:

[kiobe]

Im 50 years old, yea I know I'm old. But I must say that my opinion of what makes a woman beautiful or sexy has changed over the years. As a teenager it was very superficial and over the years it has morphed to something that still amazes me to this moment. Confidence, freckles, a woman that puts her children first, no make up natural beauty, a woman that likes being a woman, caring.

[Weisinheimer]

I agree

[kathycf]

...Some of the comments I made in the "Will feminism replace patriarchy?" thread were meant in this vein - that women who like being women - who like pretty, lacy things - who like things like nail polish and earrings and such - are very, very attractive (and this has little if anything to do with their actual looks - it has to do with their joy at being a girl).
I also posted in the "feminism" thread that supposing that feminists don't like being women or don't find joy in womanhood (or being a girl, whichever) goes against the whole idea of what feminism really should be about...that there is nothing intrinsically wrong with being female...that being female doesn't have to be "fixed" by acting like a man. Wanting equality is not the same as wanting to change one's gender. If a Black person wishes to be treated equally, would you tell them they just want to be white? Yes, poor analogy, I know. Still, people are discriminated against because of their race and also their sex.

I think there are certain ideas (misconceptions) that people still hold about feminism, so despite whatever I say...it doesn't matter. I am a feminist...I don't hate men...I don't want to be a man...I like jewelry, shoes, lipgloss and my favorite color is pink! For real!



I think many women are disappointed in how men act these days - but I wonder if part of our "wimpiness" isn't due to the fact that many women attempt to be "masculine" (i.e. "I don't need a man - I'm self-sufficient")
Self sufficiency is an adult quality....as in the ability to take care of oneself. Wanting or needing a man should be seperate from that...for romance, companionship, and so on. Isn't that why men need women? Or do men not need women?



Although i hate generalisations.....


Me too.


Oh please do, I'm curious. That seems like a good discussion topic. It should have its own thread though. This thread is more for kidding around than for serious topics. :)

Virgil is right, this should be a seperate topic of conversation. I won't intrude here again, just wanted to put my opinion forth.

[Haven]

Something for the guys (no girls).... :lol:

I've seen the no guys allowed posts too.

It's titillation (sp?) n'est pas?

I almost feel like I have to apologise here, but loved the car pic.
I've got a 2.8litre golf 4-Motion, that goes from 0-62 mph in 6 seconds. Okay, showy, showy, showy... but I love that car. Have always been a petrol-head and always been female. ;). Sorry, might not be up to date with post threads... saw the car pic and oh, yum! More sexy cars please. :)

[Niamh]

nice car Kiobe!

[Redzeppelin]

Sorry Red, I got into this late, what did you say about cars? The blond guitar is a drop top strat.

Nice.


Do you play guitar?

Yep - for about 25 years. Lots o' rock 'n' roll.


I also posted in the "feminism" thread that supposing that feminists don't like being women or don't find joy in womanhood (or being a girl, whichever) goes against the whole idea of what feminism really should be about...that there is nothing intrinsically wrong with being female...that being female doesn't have to be "fixed" by acting like a man. Wanting equality is not the same as wanting to change one's gender. If a Black person wishes to be treated equally, would you tell them they just want to be white? Yes, poor analogy, I know. Still, people are discriminated against because of their race and also their sex.

I think there are certain ideas (misconceptions) that people still hold about feminism, so despite whatever I say...it doesn't matter. I am a feminist...I don't hate men...I don't want to be a man...I like jewelry, shoes, lipgloss and my favorite color is pink! For real!


Self sufficiency is an adult quality....as in the ability to take care of oneself. Wanting or needing a man should be seperate from that...for romance, companionship, and so on. Isn't that why men need women? Or do men not need women?

I appreciate your thoughts. Yes, women should be able to take care of themselves - but sometimes I think they forget that its OK to "need" their man - because as much as a woman likes to be told that she's beautiful and that she's loved, a man likes to hear that he's needed, that he's important. That's all I'm saying. A man who said "What do you mean? I married you so I must love you and think you're beautiful! Why do I need to say so all the time?" to a woman would not be looked upon kindly (even if what he's saying is true). Do you see what I mean? I think sometimes both men and women forget how much these little things mean. We like to feel needed, respected and admired just like women like to feel beautiful, desired, loved.

[Bakiryu]

Nice.


A man who said "What do you mean? I married you so I must love you and think you're beautiful! Why do I need to say so all the time?" to a woman would not be looked upon kindly (even if what he's saying is true).

That sounds like something I would say. lol. But it obvious if the guy married her he must think she's beautiful, otherwise he wouldn't. People who like to compliment too much are annoying too.

[Turk]

That sounds like something I would say. lol. But it obvious if the guy married her he must think she's beautiful, otherwise he wouldn't. People who like to compliment too much are annoying too.

Love shows beloved beatiful.

[Mortis Anarchy]

Don't say "yikes"! I have feet like Michalengelo's David. In fact if i had take of my shoes in the center of city and start to swing my feet every single woman would get so affected.

Btw, i saw your car, you must be really old to use such a car! Hahahaha that must be a classic!



Seee... I knew you did. That's why i said she must have at least 5th degree dan so she will be able to protect herself!



Haha! So what!? I saw your picture, you can't even hurt a shy Panda in China (though i could keep punching that peaceful Panda's face). If you are not even able to punch a peaceful Panda, what's the meaning of having black belt? Point of black belt and all dans is having a prove of that you have the ability to beat people better than cops.



Did i ever tell you about my curly hair?:lol:


What!! Please...have you ever heard the saying, "Don't judge a book by its cover."??? Hmmm!?? Plus...why would anyone want to punch a panda...they are adorable...and I don't go around beating people...jeez...only when necessary. I took it more for excercise but then I learned some pretty cool things that could very well prove useful.


I guess we'll have to let the women in here. :p As long as there is no talking about toe nails and curly hair. :D That means you Papaya. :p :D

YAY!!!

[Bakiryu]

I can now finally stop LURKING round here.

[Virgil]

Welcome ladies. We guys don't cook much, but we ordered some pizza. Care for a slice? :)


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/cybercoolie/Pizza.jpg

[Mortis Anarchy]

Yummy...:p

Oh and I think Turk just doesn't want girls to be able to fight for themselves, just in case he loses!:p I'm just playing...haha.

[Turk]

What!! Please...have you ever heard the saying, "Don't judge a book by its cover."??? Hmmm!?? Plus...why would anyone want to punch a panda...they are adorable...and I don't go around beating people...jeez...only when necessary. I took it more for excercise but then I learned some pretty cool things that could very well prove useful.

Well, people thinks pandas are adorable just because their black hair around their eyes and ears. But if you shave a panda's all hair then you would realize they are quite ugly, if you don't believe me, try it.


Oh and I think Turk just doesn't want girls to be able to fight for themselves, just in case he loses! I'm just playing...haha.

True, that why i am using my brain power to make them believe they don't need black belt. :p

Oh btw, Virgil that pizza looks very good, made me feel hungy. It's the second best thing that Italians gave this world.

[Shalot]

Well, people thinks pandas are adorable just because their black hair around their eyes and ears. But if you shave a panda's all hair then you would realize they are quite ugly, if you don't believe me, try it.



True, that why i am using my brain power to make them believe they don't need black belt. :p

Oh btw, Virgil that pizza looks very good, made me feel hungy. It's the second best thing that Italians gave this world.


what's the first best thing Italians ever gave the world? or did you already post that somewhere else?

[Mortis Anarchy]

Well, people thinks pandas are adorable just because their black hair around their eyes and ears. But if you shave a panda's all hair then you would realize they are quite ugly, if you don't believe me, try it.



True, that why i am using my brain power to make them believe they don't need black belt. :p

Oh btw, Virgil that pizza looks very good, made me feel hungy. It's the second best thing that Italians gave this world.

Haha...Well, I don't have a panda of my own, but if I ever encounter one, I'm going to shave it and name it Turk...in honor of you!

The first best thing Italians gave the world is art.

[Turk]

what's the first best thing Italians ever gave the world? or did you already post that somewhere else?

Benito Mussolini, famous eccentric who thinks he can build Roman Empire again.:lol:


Haha...Well, I don't have a panda of my own, but if I ever encounter one, I'm going to shave it and name it Turk...in honor of you!

Don't even think that, if you would be able to shave a panda, that would mean you are in China. And if you'd try that in China, you would sentenced to death. Everyone knows pandas are more important than humans in China, because of population dnsity i think.


The first best thing Italians gave the world is fart.

I didn't expect this kind of statement from such a nice girl like you, though i must admit you are right.

[Mortis Anarchy]

Benito Mussolini, famous eccentric who thinks he can build Roman Empire again.:lol:



Don't even think that, if you would be able to shave a panda, that would mean you are in China. And if you'd try that in China, you would sentenced to death. Everyone knows pandas are more important than humans in China, because of population dnsity i think.



I didn't expect this kind of statement from such a nice girl like you, though i must admit you are right.

your changing my answers!!!! Mean pants...grr...haha. Actually now that I think about it...hmmm...perfect...I have a neighbor with a dog that looks like a panda! Or how about a stuffed animal?

For anyone who reads his response I said ART not fart...jeez.

[Turk]

your changing my answers!!!! Mean pants...grr...haha. Actually now that I think about it...hmmm...perfect...I have a neighbor with a dog that looks like a panda! Or how about a stuffed animal?

For anyone who reads his response I said ART not fart...jeez.

:lol:

Yeah, shave your neighbour's dog, if he got mad at you just say "it's too hot in summer" to make her believe your intention was good.

[Mortis Anarchy]

Well, I am dog sitting for him...I'm sure he wouldn't mind!:lol:
I had a monkey, a stuffed monkey, I named him Abu after the monkey in Aladdin, I decided to give him a haircut.:p

[kathycf]

Do you see what I mean? I think sometimes both men and women forget how much these little things mean. We like to feel needed, respected and admired just like women like to feel beautiful, desired, loved.
Ok, I understand better about this. I think people in general sometimes take their loved ones for granted....in the sense that there may be the tendency to not always take the time to say "thank you", or "I am glad you are here for me." Often social graces are left to the people folks work with or see out in the world, but it is equally as important to treat loved ones with just as much courtesy as "outsiders".

I have been reminding myself of that very thing, actually. My boyfriend helped me with a situation I had been struggling with and I made sure to let him know I appreciated his help....that sometimes I need help and I was very glad he was there for me.


Oh, man is that pizza I see? Mushroom pizza, I hope?

*drools* :D

[Bakiryu]

That pizza was AWESOME. Let's say CALORIES GALORE but we all need :

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u108/blaster3373/Coke.jpg

[Mortis Anarchy]

That pizza was AWESOME. Let's say CALORIES GALORE but we all need :

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u108/blaster3373/Coke.jpg

Yummy!

[kathycf]

I'll take one of these...and not because of calories. :D

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h56/kathycf/Diet_Coke.jpg

(artificial sweeteners will never hurt me!) :p

[Mortis Anarchy]

I'll take one of these...and not because of calories. :D

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h56/kathycf/Diet_Coke.jpg

(artificial sweeteners will never hurt me!) :p

Have you tried the splenda cokes?? They aren't that bad. My family has banned all carbonated drinks from the house...its not that bad.

[Turk]

Why don't you try ayran!? It's much healthier, if you want i can give you the recipe.

[Bakiryu]

*OOOH* WHat's Ayran? *ear twitch*

[Mortis Anarchy]

Why don't you try ayran!? It's much healthier, if you want i can give you the recipe.

Okie dokie!! PM it to me. what is it?

[kathycf]

Have you tried the splenda cokes?? They aren't that bad. My family has banned all carbonated drinks from the house...its not that bad.
I have, but they taste too sweet to me. I have really cut down on soda consumption but I don't think I could totally ban it.


Why don't you try ayran!? It's much healthier, if you want i can give you the recipe.

Turk, what is ayran!?

[Turk]

A traditional drink here, completely healthy and delicious.

Just mix enough water with yoghurt (you can use half-fat yoghurt too) and out enough salt. That's all. Mix it really good. And it's perfect with especially meat foods or you can drink it plain. Much healthier than coke.

[Bakiryu]

ooooh, I'll try it as soon as I get home. Have you tried Jamaica water? Is healthy, traditional and more importantly: IT HELPS YOU LOSE WEIGHT!

[Mortis Anarchy]

A traditional drink here, completely healthy and delicious.

Just mix enough water with yoghurt (you can use half-fat yoghurt too) and out enough salt. That's all. Mix it really good. And it's perfect with especially meat foods or you can drink it plain. Much healthier than coke.

I've been drinking loads of Aloe water or whatever. It sounds interesting. I'll have to try it. Is it just regular yoghurt? as in plain?


ooooh, I'll try it as soon as I get home. Have you tried Jamaica water? Is healthy, traditional and more importantly: IT HELPS YOU LOSE WEIGHT!

Jamaica water?? What is it? my friends mom has been on a lemonade diet.

you mix fresh lemons with H2O, cayenne pepper and maple syrup. It helps you lose weight to.

[kathycf]

Interesting...I will have to try that with some plain yogurt. All I have on hand right now is vanilla.

Oh, so yes...this is the guy thread. I thought I would post some pics in keeping with guy interests...:p

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h56/kathycf/th_DGG-007902.jpg (http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h56/kathycf/DGG-007902.jpg)
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h56/kathycf/th_eg-flying-v-paul.jpg (http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h56/kathycf/eg-flying-v-paul.jpg)

[Turk]

I've been drinking loads of Aloe water or whatever. It sounds interesting. I'll have to try it. Is it just regular yoghurt? as in plain?

Yeah it's just regular yoghurt. If you want i can also tell how to make natural yoghurt at home too. :)

[Mortis Anarchy]

Yeah it's just regular yoghurt. If you want i can also tell how to make natural yoghurt at home too. :)

That sounds cool!!

[Turk]

Just put 2-3 spoonful yoghurt into apot full of 2-3 liter milk (it should be boiled natural milk). Close the top of the pot (or saucepan). Wrap few clothes to keep the fermented milk warm enough. A day later it will be really good tasting yoghurt.

[kilted exile]

Turk's ayran sounds very similar to a drink I am more familiar with called a Lassi

[Mortis Anarchy]

Turk's ayran sounds very similar to a drink I am more familiar with called a Lassi

Whats Lassi?

[kilted exile]

It is a yoghurt based drink common to India/Pakistan & Indian Restaurants throughout the world. Comes as either sweet or salty.

[Bakiryu]

Jamaica water?? What is it?

ok, according to my Mum there's this flower/plant called Flor de Jamaica (jamaica flower), you boil 'till the waters red and hot, then you let it rest. You can drink it with or whitiout sugar. It's Tasty AND healthy.

[Turk]

It is a yoghurt based drink common to India/Pakistan & Indian Restaurants throughout the world. Comes as either sweet or salty.

Yeah, it's very old Turkish drink and Turks established and governed states and empires in India and Pakistan (there wasn't a place named Pakistan in past actually) so it's possible they have same drink. Though we don't make sweet ayran, that would be disgusting.

[Mortis Anarchy]

Interesting...now I want to add a drink! Horchata!

[Turk]

It's a Mexican drink.

[Bakiryu]

Horchata! I've had some I'd just wish I know how to make it. The only drink I know how to make Is homemade beer and I can't have any for 7 more years...

[Mortis Anarchy]

It's a Mexican drink.

A PLUS! Its so good...its like cinnamon or other spices with rice water. Or agua fresca...yummy. My mom makes it a lot. Water and fresh fruit. Guavas or strawberries. They are so refreshing!


Horchata! I've had some I'd just wish I know how to make it. The only drink I know how to make Is homemade beer and I can't have any for 7 more years...

My dad brews beer...

[Bakiryu]

Hurray for you! free beer! *and the envy grows* I prefer wine myself, and dark goblets.....

[Turk]

A PLUS! Its so good...its like cinnamon or other spices with rice water. Or agua fresca...yummy. My mom makes it a lot. Water and fresh fruit. Guavas or strawberries. They are so refreshing!

Do you have a recipe?

[Mortis Anarchy]

Do you have a recipe?

for what? Agua fresca or horchata?


Hurray for you! free beer! *and the envy grows* I prefer wine myself, and dark goblets.....

OH NO!! No one is allowed to touch his beer. No way!

[Turk]

Horchata, it sounds cooler.:D

[Bakiryu]

I sound weird if i say it, I tend to over-pronounce my Rs so It would soud something like "orrrrchsahtah"

[Mortis Anarchy]

Horchata, it sounds cooler.:D

INGREDIENTS
1 cup long grain rice...the white kind, not brown.
2 quarts water
1 cinnamon stick, broken into pieces
1 teaspoon vanilla
1/2 cup white sugar

Pretty much you mix rice, H2O and cinnamon in a saucepan. Then you leave it alone, off of the stove for awhile, I'd say like 2-3 hrs. then you boil it and let it simmer for about 20-30 minutes. Then you blend it and strain it. Let it get cool though,before you drink...oh, before you drink, put in sugar and vanilla(if you want), I just said 1/2 cup but it really depends on how sweet you want it. I don't really put that much.


I sound weird if i say it, I tend to over-pronounce my Rs so It would soud something like "orrrrchsahtah"

Haha, thats funny. My brother can't roll his Rs at all. Its sad, but he can't speak spanish at all! But he grew up with english, whereas I grew up with spanish.

[Bakiryu]

Many thanks!!! I do love making new things, althought by the way all my cooking seems to go I'll probably mess up and add like 3 cups of black pepper or something like that.


Haha, thats funny. My brother can't roll his Rs at all. Its sad, but he can't speak spanish at all! But he grew up with english, whereas I grew up with spanish.


I like to drink something my dad invented and I named Tretonaia.

Spanish speakers just think I'm weird, since Cubans don't pronounce that much their Rs and Ss. While a normal cuban would say "rohses" really fast I would say "rouwhssssesss" and end with a hiss.

I can't help myself. But it really helps me with my Russian, I sound like a natural!!

[Mortis Anarchy]

Many thanks!!! I do love making new things, althought by the way all my cooking seems to go I'll probably mess up and add like 3 cups of black pepper or something like that.

I like to drink something I

AVOID BLACK PEPPER!!!!

for agua fresca(Fresh water) just pick a fruit and blend it with the following:

1 large cantaloupe or half a watermelon, seeded and diced (about 3 cups)
1 1/2 cups water
2 to 4 tablespoons sugar
2 to 3 limes, juiced

***I put in a fruit already.

[Bakiryu]

it's too late, I make super spicy food!!!

[Turk]

AVOID BLACK PEPPER!!!!

for agua fresca(Fresh water) just pick a fruit and blend it with the following:

1 large cantaloupe or half a watermelon, seeded and diced (about 3 cups)
1 1/2 cups water
2 to 4 tablespoons sugar
2 to 3 limes, juiced

***I put in a fruit already.

If i do this; i will try to put some apple juice, it sounds like it would be good with apple juice.

[Mortis Anarchy]

it's too late, I make super spicy food!!!

I love spicy food, but this is a cool, refreshing drink...and you need chili to make it really spicy.


If i do this; i will try to put some apple juice, it sounds like it would be good with apple juice.

That might be good actually. You can choose any fruit also. I do it with strawberries and guavas and watermelon...I've wanted to try it with papaya or with mango...but I'm not sure.

[Bakiryu]

I love spicy food, but this is a cool, refreshing drink...and you need chili to make it really spicy.

Ooooh, my family and friends will kill you for giving me ideas, they're wary of since after the Spicy Chocolate Cake Incident.:sick:

[Brigitte]

Hurray for you! free beer! *and the envy grows* I prefer wine myself, and dark goblets.....

I love the smell of red wine. I'm not yet old enough to drink alcohol, but that's alright. The smell of wine, alone, will suffice for now. :lol: :lol:

I find it funny that the moment I posted all these other girls came ruuuushing in. I'm going to make a statement, but I don't know if it's true:

Are women naturally more curious/suspicious, even, about what a man might be doing (or hiiiiding) than a man about a woman?

[kiobe]

Speedway anyone?
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w312/kiobe/PHIL20SMALL.jpg

[Virgil]

I love the smell of red wine. I'm not yet old enough to drink alcohol, but that's alright. The smell of wine, alone, will suffice for now. :lol: :lol:

I find it funny that the moment I posted all these other girls came ruuuushing in. I'm going to make a statement, but I don't know if it's true:

Are women naturally more curious/suspicious, even, about what a man might be doing (or hiiiiding) than a man about a woman?

That may be correct, at least from my point of view. But I liked to be surprised by women. :D

[Brigitte]

And I just like surprises in general. Ahahaha.

[Mortis Anarchy]

And I just like surprises in general. Ahahaha.

Haha!:D :D

[weepingforloman]

I think we need to re-masculinize this thread....

How much can you bench? Don't lie please.

I can do 240 pounds. That's 109 kg according to an internet kg/lb ratio.

[kiobe]

I think we need to re-masculinize this thread....

How much can you bench? Don't lie please.

I can do 240 pounds. That's 109 kg according to an internet kg/lb ratio.

FinallyYes why don't we make this more manly, thanks weep.195, but I'm old and have arthritis.

[Scheherazade]

but I'm old and have arthritis.Excuses, excuses...

:p

[Virgil]

I think we need to re-masculinize this thread....

How much can you bench? Don't lie please.

I can do 240 pounds. That's 109 kg according to an internet kg/lb ratio.

I would love to see you do that. If you can bench press 240 pounds i'll eat my hat. :p

[Scheherazade]

I would love to see you do that. If you can bench press 240 pounds i'll eat my hat. :pWill you require any sauces with it? ;)

[kiobe]

Excuses, excuses...

:p

:sick: I don't want to hurt myself.;)

I've got one for ya. Why do "men" borrow tools? wouldn't real men already have tools, or buy them.

[weepingforloman]

I would love to see you do that. If you can bench press 240 pounds i'll eat my hat. :p

No, really. Of course, I weigh 220 pounds, so that's not really all that impressive.

[kiobe]

No, really. Of course, I weigh 220 pounds, so that's not really all that impressive.

Hey, the guy is from the Boston area. I wouldn't mess with anyone from there. I knew a guy from South Boston in school, we called him "boxer". He was a good friend and someone to be very respectfull of if you didn't know him. If he says 220, 220 it is.

[Turk]

I would love to see you do that. If you can bench press 240 pounds i'll eat my hat. :p

Do you wear hat in this time? Like Humphrey Bogart?

[Virgil]

No, really. Of course, I weigh 220 pounds, so that's not really all that impressive.

:lol: When i saw your claim/boast i was under the assumption you were a girl. This is a thread that boys are not allowed on.:p even though I rudely intrude myself. ;) But I just checked your profile and it says you're a guy and that you play football. So it's quite possible you can bench press 240 pounds, although that is still quite impressive for a 16 year old. If you're not pulling my leg, my hat's off to you. Wow. Even if you weigh 220 pounds, I'm impressed. When I was about 17 or 18 I was able (but just barely) to bench press 225 pounds, the most I ever did. But I only weighed 150 pounds or so at the time.

edit: Never mind about the thread. I thought this was the girl's thread. I'm getting confused with all the different threads. :alien:

[RobinHood3000]

Hat's off or hat's on (the grill)? :p

[weepingforloman]

225 is pretty impressive if you weigh only 150. That's 150&#37; body weight.

[Virgil]

225 is pretty impressive if you weigh only 150. That's 150% body weight.

I know. I was very proud of that. Thanks. in the gym now I can barely do 150 pounds, which is the complete reversal. :lol: Oh well, one gets old.

[Turk]

My mom's uncle was weighing more than 200 pound when he was older than 62.

[weepingforloman]

Just in case I'm not the only player/fan of AMERICAN football here, let's see if we can start up a debate: which defense is better, 3-4 or 4-3?

Alternately, who was better... Muhammad Ali or Sugar Ray Robinson? Normally this would be a wash, but I read a Bert Sugar book in which he named Robinson the best of all time.

[kiobe]

Just in case I'm not the only player/fan of AMERICAN football here, let's see if we can start up a debate: which defense is better, 3-4 or 4-3?

Alternately, who was better... Muhammad Ali or Sugar Ray Robinson? Normally this would be a wash, but I read a Bert Sugar book in which he named Robinson the best of all time.

Depends on the speed of your backfield. I like 4-3.

[Turk]

Just in case I'm not the only player/fan of AMERICAN football here, let's see if we can start up a debate: which defense is better, 3-4 or 4-3?

Alternately, who was better... Muhammad Ali or Sugar Ray Robinson? Normally this would be a wash, but I read a Bert Sugar book in which he named Robinson the best of all time.

I didn't watch Robinson. Muhammed Ali eh... But i think Mike Tyson must be the best. Until his late times he had no lose and almost all of his matches finished by KO.

[Bakiryu]

My mom's uncle was weighing more than 200 pound when he was older than 62.

wOW, MY BROTHER WEIGHTS 200 AND HE'S 30 dude! (WELL, HE'S 6" 7, SO...)

[weepingforloman]

Depends on the speed of your backfield. I like 4-3.

I have the unique bias of being born in Pittsburgh and living in New England, so 3-4 all the way. It's so versatile, the blitz is almost always coming, but hard to pinpoint... Plus, you just need three oversize D-lineman and maybe 1-2 fast linebackers to have an effective pass rush.


I didn't watch Robinson. Muhammed Ali eh... But i think Mike Tyson must be the best. Until his late times he had no lose and almost all of his matches finished by KO.

Mike Tyson was undoubtedly the most POWERFUL boxer of all time, but after losing to Buster Douglas, the mystique and aura of invincibility were gone. He had a stretch of dominance that was unrivaled, though.

Personally, my vote is for Ali. He was not only a puncher, not only a boxer, not only a showman, not only a strategist, he was a vocal, outspoken man... Even if I don't agree with his ideas, I can respect that (to a point).

[Turk]

wOW, MY BROTHER WEIGHTS 200 AND HE'S 30 dude! (WELL, HE'S 6" 7, SO...)

He was much shorter than 6''7, although he died last year.

[Bakiryu]

My condolences, man.

[kiobe]

I have the unique bias of being born in Pittsburgh and living in New England, so 3-4 all the way. It's so versatile, the blitz is almost always coming, but hard to pinpoint... Plus, you just need three oversize D-lineman and maybe 1-2 fast linebackers to have an effective pass rush.

TROY PALOMALO IS MY FAVORITE PLAYER!!!!


I have the unique bias of being born in Pittsburgh and living in New England, so 3-4 all the way. It's so versatile, the blitz is almost always coming, but hard to pinpoint... Plus, you just need three oversize D-lineman and maybe 1-2 fast linebackers to have an effective pass rush.

I coach a youth league team and 4-3 is what the high school coaches want us to use. But it works well as long as they don't run to the outside.

[weepingforloman]

TROY PALOMALO IS MY FAVORITE PLAYER!!!!

Yeah, Polamalu's one of mine too... He's crazy, isn't he?


I coach a youth league team and 4-3 is what the high school coaches want us to use. But it works well as long as they don't run to the outside.

Heh. At my high school (and bear in mind that this is one of the top programs in the state) we run either a 4-4 or a 4-3, but more often the eight man front.

[kiobe]

Yeah, Polamalu's one of mine too... He's crazy, isn't he?



Heh. At my high school (and bear in mind that this is one of the top programs in the state) we run either a 4-4 or a 4-3, but more often the eight man front.

I don't think anyone in the NFL can read a play like Troy. He's deep, a second later he's a nose guard and they try to run up the middle....good luck! 8 man front.....look out!

[Bakiryu]

I don't understand American futbol, it confuses me (please explain!)

this is real futbol:http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u229/nseese/soccer.jpghttp://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p291/Pancho_1190/alba_futbol.jpg

[kiobe]

I don't understand American futbol, it confuses me (please explain!)

this is real futbol:http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u229/nseese/soccer.jpghttp://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p291/Pancho_1190/alba_futbol.jpg

Troy Palomalu Pittsburgh Steelers.

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w312/kiobe/08PHPOL055.jpg

Football Explained!

[Bakiryu]

Yeah, it looks like I'd be interesting to watch if i knew what the heck the players are doing! The only thing I know abotu american futbol is the word 'quarterback'

[kiobe]

Yeah, it looks like I'd be interesting to watch if i knew what the heck the players are doing! The only thing I know abotu american futbol is the word 'quarterback'

Basicaly it's, either get the guy with the ball or get the ball, after all, IT"S MY BALL!!!!

[Turk]

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u229/nseese/soccer.jpg

Norway-Italy;

Erik Hagen, Morten Gamst Pedersen.

Gianluigi Buffon, Andrea Pirlo.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p291/Pancho_1190/alba_futbol.jpg

Some women imitiating men.

[kilted exile]

Bah, american football is for wimps (seriously, fair catch?). When you're ready to grow a pair and take off the nancy boy padding come and see me. I'll be waiting on the rugby pitch looking for a ruck;) :p

[kiobe]

Norway-Italy;

Erik Hagen, Morten Gamst Pedersen.

Gianluigi Buffon, Andrea Pirlo.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p291/Pancho_1190/alba_futbol.jpg

Some women imitiating men.

What are you saying?

[weepingforloman]

Bah, american football is for wimps (seriously, fair catch?). When you're ready to grow a pair and take off the nancy boy padding come and see me. I'll be waiting on the rugby pitch looking for a ruck;) :p

Bah, rugger. The collisions are much softer, no one weighs 360 pounds, and the game is way too much like soccer. For the record, I HATE sports like soccer, lacrosse, rugby, etc. where it's nonstop... Except basketball.