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    Quote Originally Posted by Moira View Post
    "Many are unaware of poisoning caused by re-using plastic bottles.

    Some of you may be in the habit of using and re-using your disposable mineral water bottles (eg. Evian, Aqua, Ice Mountain, Vita, etc), keeping them in your car or at work. Not a good idea. In a nutshell, the plastic (called polyethylene terephthalate or PET) used in these bottles contains a potentially carcinogenic element (something called diethylhydroxylamine or DEHA). The bottles are safe for one-time use only; if you must keep them longer, it should be or no more than a few days, a week max, and keep them away from heat as well.'

    Don't know if it's just fals alarm or not .......

    That maybe the case for reusing with other types of liquids. At work my boss ordered a trial of one of those ultra purifying water systems. And everytime I and other coworkers refilled my water bottle it had a weird taste. It was said that the water was ultra pure and that it was potentailly leaching out some of the impurities in the plastic.

    Bossman asked salesperson to remove the system, poor thing asked if she could demonstrate the purity of the product and talk to us about why we needed this system. Poor girl didn't realize there were a bunch of chemists (not me) not impressed by the pH and volt meters she brought. They went easy on her but the bottom line was that we didn't need or want that system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moira View Post
    "Many are unaware of poisoning caused by re-using plastic bottles.

    Some of you may be in the habit of using and re-using your disposable mineral water bottles (eg. Evian, Aqua, Ice Mountain, Vita, etc), keeping them in your car or at work. Not a good idea. In a nutshell, the plastic (called polyethylene terephthalate or PET) used in these bottles contains a potentially carcinogenic element (something called diethylhydroxylamine or DEHA). The bottles are safe for one-time use only; if you must keep them longer, it should be or no more than a few days, a week max, and keep them away from heat as well.'

    Don't know if it's just fals alarm or not .......
    Pure urban legend. I'm pretty sure it's illegal to make containers for food and drink out of known carcinogens.
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    On one of the talk shows they did a test of plastic bottles. Specifically reused water bottles. I think they found 5 randon people at a gym and asked them how/if they clean the bottles before reusing and asked if they could test their bottles for bacteria. The only one that came back within limits (I don't remember what agency specified the limits) was this woman who cleaned her bottles by adding a tiny bit of dish soap to the bottle, rinse with the hotest water her hands could stand, then air dried the bottle completely and ran the caps through the diswasher. All the rest of the bottle came back with very high bacteria counts.
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    Well I do recycle my bottle for a few days, never more than a week... bottled water is not cheap, considering that you use it every day (it's almost the only thing I drink, except at breakfast or when I happen to buy juice. I also ran out of tea )

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    Quote Originally Posted by cuppajoe_9 View Post
    Pure urban legend. I'm pretty sure it's illegal to make containers for food and drink out of known carcinogens.
    Great job Cuppa in straightening that out. Now this is related to the fear of microwaving food in a plastic container. I've heard that also is carcinogenic. Is that true?


    Edit: I found it myself: http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/cookplastic.asp

    Son-of-a-gun. I've been avoiding microwaving in plastic ever since I read that somewhere. And admonishing my wife.
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    I would imagine that if the plastic container is marketed as microwave safe (as Tupperware and all other such containers are), microwaving it should be generally non-fatal
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    Quote Originally Posted by cuppajoe_9 View Post
    I would imagine that if the plastic container is marketed as microwave safe (as Tupperware and all other such containers are), microwaving it should be generally non-fatal
    Agreed, the only concerns I have heard is regarding the use a soft low quality plastic such as a margarine tub, as even the results for these have shown no definable link (at least when I last looked at the data.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgil View Post
    Great job Cuppa in straightening that out. Now this is related to the fear of microwaving food in a plastic container. I've heard that also is carcinogenic. Is that true?


    Edit: I found it myself: http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/cookplastic.asp

    Son-of-a-gun. I've been avoiding microwaving in plastic ever since I read that somewhere. And admonishing my wife.
    Oh sorry you guys. I edited my post before you posted and found the info. You probably didn't notice my edit.
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    It's a good bet that if the FDA lets you store food and drink in it, it doesn't contain carcinogens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cuppajoe_9 View Post
    I would imagine that if the plastic container is marketed as microwave safe (as Tupperware and all other such containers are), microwaving it should be generally non-fatal
    But odd about supposedly microwave safe tubs? they are allways melting on me or changing colour ...So now its glass or nothing for me as I cant afford to keep buying contatinors
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    Oops, sorry for the late reply. I actually poured it all away... it was too disgusting... I ended up giving up on alcohol and quitting my ANNOYING job which made me drink in the first place. Thank goodness I'm in a much better place now. No more vodkas for me.

    Anyway, thanks for the feedback...glad it somehow spurred a discussion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fango View Post
    I ended up giving up on alcohol and quitting my ANNOYING job which made me drink in the first place.
    May I ask you what your job was?

    I am considering a career change...

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    Heh, I was an English tutor in Wall-Street... you're underpaid and promote a system where people pay thousands to use a software all day long. You end up being tech-support more than a teacher... wasn't worth it. I might start private tutoring here in Israel soon, though...

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    I can see the relation to the vodka).

    I agree with Koa, best topic .......

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    Glass or Plastic

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade View Post
    oops... I knew there was a reason I started throwing them out Id just forgooten about it oh well glass tastes better anyway.
    Glass, most certainly tastes better. I purchased Bacardi in a plastic bottle once. ONLY ONCE! That plastic taste ruined the rum.

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