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Conspiracy Theories and a Man On the Moon

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Conspiracy Theories and a Man On the Moon

There as a crazy discussion last week on lit net, people who claimed that the Apollo moon landings of the early 1970’s were a hoax. http://www.online-literature.com/for...highlight=moon I must admit I was taken aback. First of all the moon landings to me are probably man’s greatest technical achievement and to deny it was startling. I know there are all sorts of conspiracy theories on all sorts of subjects, the JFK assassination, UFOs, creatures from outer space landing and kidnapping simpletons, the September 11 attacks. But I had no idea that there was a cottage industry claiming that the moon landings were a hoax. The conspiracy theories I was accustomed to don’t seem to challenge facts, but generated facts in circumstances that were murky. Who knew who was behind the JFK murder? The conspiracy wasn’t that a murder didn’t happen but the murky facts surrounding the planning of the event. The moon landings hoax is a claim outright denying facts, that an event that was filmed was faked, rocks and artifacts brought back frauds, missiles launched in pretense, rockets and spacecraft built but never left the earth, reporters reporting lies and documenting an event that didn’t occur, and actual documents forged. This conspiracy could not have involved just a hand full of folks but literally thousands, maybe tens of thousands, of people and institutions.

Perhaps the reason I was upset over it was because so much of my identity is wrapped up in the space missions. Not that I’m an astronaut. I’m an engineer. The great accomplishment of the moon landings wasn’t so much the piloting of the spacecraft, though I’m not saying that was insignificant, or the survival of the crew, though their courage was immense, nor the project planning and management (and as a project manager I can attest to managing something like this must have been incredibly challenging) but the shear technological ingenuity. The rocket science, the computer technology, the mechanical devices, the managing of the air system. When you think about it, something as seemingly trivial as rubber seals to seal in an artificial atmosphere from the space vacuum is a feat of critical importance. And possibly the finest technological accomplishment was the Command Module survival reentry through earth’s atmosphere and resisting the heating as it hurtles through the sky to a parachute landing in the ocean. I was inspired to be an engineer because of the space program.

Actually I grew up wanting to be an astronaut. I remember the Apollo 11 moon landing. I was sitting on the floor of my grandmother’s living room on that July day in 1969, an eight year old boy with the family around and we watched with incredible awe. It was truly unbelievable. And someone bought me a record (those old vinyl things) with all the great audio of the moon mission complied, JFK’s famous challenge to reach the moon in his decade (“We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard”), the countdown and launch of the Saturn rocket, the sounds and discussions at Huston ground station, the decoupling of the lunar module from the command module, the landing onto the moon, and then the moon walk, that famous first step by Neil Armstrong, “One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.” My heroes as a kid were Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin, and Mike Collins. I knew the names of all the astronauts like a kid knows the names of ball players. I wanted to be an astronaut, not because of movies or TV shows but because of the real thing. (Of course I found out later I was near sighted and got sea sick. and that would never do as an astronaut.) I remember playing hooky from school so I could watch the next space shot. I remember faking being sick and lying to my mother that I had thrown up just to stay home and watch the event on TV. I kept in touch (before the internet) with all the timeline and news as to when the next mission was going to happen. I loved it. I lived it. I listened to that record over and over and that’s how I even learned what a Boston accent was, listening to JFK’s voice. Here’s a youtube clip of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8Q4g-iINWU. I must have that record in the basement somewhere. I think it was an old 45 rpm.

Could it have been a hoax? You know, I was sitting in a meeting with my project team last week, and I don’t recall how the subject of conspiracies came up but when it did I brought up the fact that I had just gotten into a dispute with a group of people who claim the Apollo lunar landings were a hoax. Most of the engineers were surprised but one wasn’t. He’s an amateur astronomer and he teaches astronomy at a local university at night. He said that lots of the kids coming in to school all think the moon landings were faked. He said he was initially surprised, but apparently this seems to be embedded into the mindset of this new generation of young people. Most of the people in that lit net thread were non-Americans, so I had rationalized that well they didn’t grow up here, America is a resented super power, and you know all the anti American crap that’s out there now. But here, in America itself, a generation of moon landing deniers.

Could it have been a hoax? Not on your life. You can’t create a conspiracy between literally thousands of people. And how would they have gotten the news media, a media that is obsessed with digging out any government lies and exaggerations to go along with it? Impossible. You can’t fake actual rockets and space craft in museums (I’ve sat in some of those crafts at the Air and Space Museum in Washington), lie in history books, and have astronauts who have done the voyages, landed on the moon, and walked in space lie to the public every day for forty years.

But this asks an interesting question. How do I know any event in history actually happened? How do I know Napoleon really lived, conquered the European continent, and was defeated at Waterloo? I didn’t see it. No one living experienced it. It’s only words in a history book. How do I know the Roman Empire actually existed? Of course I believe that Napoleon lived, and that the Romans had an empire, but if one is predisposed to believe in conspiracies how does one pick and choose? I have no idea. But I can tell you if it takes more than ten people to maintain a conspiracy the overwhelming odds are that it is a crack pot conspiracy theory.

But is one surprised that people believe in conspiracy theories? I shouldn’t have been. In the news in the last few weeks was a British Roman Catholic Bishop, and to reach that post one has acquired a deep education and a world of experience, Bishop Richard Williamson, denied that the holocaust ever existed. Like denying the moon landings, denying the holocaust is a denying of facts. Here is an educated man denying a fundamental fact of the 20th century. And frankly I was actually surprised at those that I thought were highly intelligent lit netters either denying or entertaining the possibility of a moon landing hoax. And if you look through the thread it was filled with beliefs in all sorts of conspiracy theories.

So what to make of it? Is this a generation raised on movies and TV and video games where all reality is in flux? Is this a generation so cynical that all advertisement is propaganda, all price fluctuations a conspiring to cheat people, all government actions secret chicanery? No hardly. This generation is not unique. Conspiracies go back to the beginning of time. The notion that businesses are out to screw people goes back, my goodness, to Marx and well before. Conspiracy theories are akin to folklore and urban legends. Just like in the middle ages (and not just the middle ages, even today) there are legends about Jews killing babies, women who are witches, and people from the neighboring town who kidnap children. This apparently is part of the human condition, a touchstone of paranoia, events we can’t personally verify the facts and so impose themselves into our fears.
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  1. motherhubbard's Avatar
    You have an impressive list of heroes It kind of makes me sad for the youth of today who idolize people in spite, or maybe because of, the pride they take in their more negative attributes. It made me wonder who my kids consider to be heroes They don't get exposed to a lot of stuff that most kids see and we're not into sports. They are in bed now, but I'll ask them tomorrow.
  2. Janine's Avatar
    Nicely written; you did a good job on this one, Virgil. I was thinking all the time about how I have heard people claim that the holocaust never existed; I thought that just plain ignornance and totally outrageous - how can they disregard the facts? I can't believe a Catholic Bishop would say such a thing. That is very strange. I can't believe these people who think it never happened would think such a thing. Interesting that you brought it up. I think that I also heard about this space walk hoax before. I think that people nowdays are just keen about hoaxes and they suspect everything. They no longer trust history, which is a very sad thing indeed. I agree with you, that I was first quite put off by the mere fact these assumptions do exist.

    I had to laugh - you were 8 when the walk took place. I was 17 or 18 - haha....do you recall what month it took place? I recall that night vividly as though it happened yesterday. I think it was in the summer - am I right?
  3. higley's Avatar
    People retreat into cynicism as a safeguard against the admittedly humiliating sensation of being fooled by what was once an accepted reality. They're so afraid of being misled that they develop a historical paranoia more corrosive than any actual misrepresentations that might exist. That's not to say that I wholeheartedly believe that we are given nothing but the truth in our history books, that there aren't things missing, but come on--the lunar landing? The Holocaust? Ridiculous. Just because we'd like for the Holocaust never to have happened doesn't change the fact that it did.
  4. motherhubbard's Avatar
    I had also heard of this conspiracy. Actually, several years ago my mom and I were talking about some conspiracy theory and she said that there were people who believed the whole moon landing was staged. When I read the thread I just laughed. That was the first day it was up and I haven't been back to it. I really thought it was a joke at first.
  5. Virgil's Avatar
    Thank you everyone. Janine, the walk took place on July 20th.
  6. ~Sophia~'s Avatar
    Hi Virgil.

    I wonder how many of those theories started as a joke and ended up taking on a life of their own?

    Perhaps, for some, it's more convenient and prudent to simply erase some of our history as a conspiracy. Did it become more prevalent after Watergate?

    If we simply reduce certain events to conspiracy, we are absolved of caring about the event. We are released of learning the facts. We can - with the wave of a hand, avoid culpability in acts that shaped history. I wonder if in 100 years there will be conspiracy theorists that will deny apartheid, Afghanistan, Iraq... even though there is clear documentation that hopefully goes into a time capsule.

    Nice write, made me think!
    Updated 03-11-2009 at 11:38 PM by ~Sophia~
  7. Riesa's Avatar
    beautifully put, Sophia.
  8. Joreads's Avatar
    I am glad I satyed out of that thread Virgil. Here the walk happpened on the 21st which is my Birthday!! It better have happened.
  9. mtpspur's Avatar
    Nothing significant to add here. People choose to believe or not believe things as they choose or what makes them comfortable in their frame of reference. I once spent a short amount of time (11969) trying to convince a fellow that a series of Doc Savage novels clearly marked reprints (from the 1930s/1940s) in 1960s paperback reprints were actually published back then in pulp magazines but he refused to believe me stating they had been taken from comic books and written up as novels. Trivial example I freely confess but I have often thought of him over the years (he was an important friend in Air Force basic training) and wondered if he ever discovered the truth and I actually knew what I was talking about.
  10. ClaesGefvenberg's Avatar
    This is excellent writing, Virgil, and our thoughts on the subject are basically the same (I think most engineers will react that way). I would like to add though, that I also take a very dim view of the original posters motives for starting the thread: What he presented was nothing but link spam, aimed at increasing traffic to all that stuff. He had posted the same thing at countless other forums.

    Besides, there is no talking to people who already "know" and thus have turned a blind eye to any input pointing in another direction. Some people still believe that the Earth is flat after all.

    /Claes
  11. LadyWentworth's Avatar
    You know what it is? People just want to be negative all the time. That is all it is, in my opinion. There is always somebody out there that wants to start trouble over something or other. Part of me wonders if these people really do believe in these conspiracies, or are they just out there to rile people up? Now, I do admit to "questioning" a lot of stuff in life. It isn't that I am trying to come up with some sort of conspiracy. It is just that if something doesn't quite gel together for me, I'll question it. Honestly, I do have an opinion on JFK's assassination, but it is so small that it is hardly something for someone to think I will go off on some conspiracy rant. The same actually goes for Lincoln's assassination! When I say that I have something to say about that, I know people are afraid I will go off on something that happened over 140 years ago. This tiny detail that I question could hardly be considered a conspiracy. It is just something that is my opinion that I think maybe has a chance of having happened. Does that make any sense? Probably not, but I know what I am thinking.

    I've heard about the non-believers of the holocaust for years. That is simply a wonder to me. I am never too surprised, no matter who says it, when I hear it.

    Anyway, I could go on and on about conspiracies and people not believing that this or that happened, or always questioning every little detail of an event or person, but I won't. Not tonight. Maybe sometime in the future I will write a little entry on it. You may just have inspired me to write a blog entry!

    By the way, how do you like the fact that you guys took our Archbishop away???? After Easter he no longer belongs to us. Oh, well. I don't care. I'm not Catholic. But still.....he was ours first.
  12. SleepyWitch's Avatar
    Hey Virge,
    great essay. Makes me wish I was an old geezer so I could have watched the moon-landing and other space launches.
    I know I came across as anti-American in that thread, but that was only because I like playing around with ideas and seeing how far I can stretch an hypothesis. In fact, when it comes to moon landings and such, I'm sentimentally pro-American.
    Anyways, I think most people who believe in conspiracy theories are frustrated losers and cling to those theories because it makes them feel smug. It makes them feel like they are special because they know a secret and are right and everyone else is wrong.
    As for the generation of moon landing deniers in America, I think there are at least two causes for this. 1) (some) Americans tend to take freedom of speech a little bit too literally. I.e. they don't understand it to mean "Everybody is entitled to say what they believe" but "Whatever anyone says is true because to say it isn't true would imply that different utterances have a different status and therefore would imply that the people making the utterance have a different status, which would be heresy in a democracy like the USA". This line of thinking does not require any empirical evidence for the claims people make, because it would be discriminatory to demand evidence of particular people.
    2) regionalism/ individualism/ distrust of federal agencies etc: whatever the government/newspaper/federal bureau for the publication of moon-landing data ( ) says must be wrong because they are not local/ individual and have no right to poke their noses into people's lives and tell them what to believe. (Hehe, are you familiar with this way of thinking?). I know this is gonna sound anti-American and patronizing, but I'll say it anyway: even though most of the posters on that thread were European/Asian/etc, this kind of mentality is not as widespread in Europe as it is in the US (from my experience... but maybe I'm mistaken... there could be lots of moon-landing deniers just outside my front door and I didn't notice them because I'm hopelessly out of touch with popular culture )
  13. optimisticnad's Avatar
    I'm young but also hopelessly out of touch with popular culture sleepywitch!

    Moon landing: I quite the like idea that it was all a set up - but - BUT - how ridiculous and bizarre! These people must still think that the sun orbits the earth!

    I wouldn't put the denial of moon landing in the same category as the denial of the holocaust. I can't believe that Bishop - he did apologise later but too late, the damage was done. Did he never watch any footage from that time? I mean were actors, little children starved and stripped, and filmed?

    'America is a resented super power' - being British, I could go on...I don't want to get into a patriortic argument/debate about America, I respect you and like your friednship but there is a reason why there is all that 'anti-American crap' out there, there's no smoke without fire. I think humbleness and acknowledgement of mistakes by the British an Americans, will do wonders for everyone. Or are they still searching for those weapons of mass destruction? Maybe they're on the moon!

    p.s I do believe in conspiracy theories by the way, just not 'silly' ones.

    And a very nostalgic post! Thumbs up!
    Updated 03-12-2009 at 07:28 AM by optimisticnad
  14. PrinceMyshkin's Avatar
    Sophia makes a relevant point when she asserts
    "If we simply reduce certain events to conspiracy, we are absolved of caring about the event. We are released of learning the facts. We can - with the wave of a hand, avoid culpability in acts that shaped history
    which assuredly applies the case of Bishop Williamson and other Holocaust deniers: So long as the Holocaust is acknowledged and known, a certain portion of the world population feel empathy for those were its victims. Those who cannot stand the thought of empathy, tolerance or admiration for the Jews find it easy and indeed palatable to deny that any of The Final Solution ever happened and therefore not only were millions of Jews NOT gassed & incinerated but other Jews made up this mountain of evidence and profited from it via reparations from Germany & the establishment of a state of Israel.

    In the case of other conspiracy theories I can only conjecture that there is wide-spread cynicism that the government and the news media ever tell us the truth. Assuredly they do NOT tell us the truth about everything so it's a short, paranoid leap to assume they don't tell us the truth about anything.
  15. kiz_paws's Avatar
    Sophia beautifully wrote her thoughts, and I have to say that I agree with what she so eloquently wrote, and also with PrinceM, who made excellent points.

    Very well written, Virgil, thanks.
  16. TheFifthElement's Avatar
    I think I'm more astonished that you think the lunar landing is the 'man's greatest ever technical achievement'. Sure it was impressive but the greatest? Better than houses? Better than clothing? Better than turning rock into an arrowhead? The space programme was built on a lot of existing technology. Take away computers, for example, and you have no space programme. Take away the submarine and you have no space programme. Take away missile technology and you have no space programme. Take away the rock that got turned into an arrowhead and you have no space programme. So yes there was innovation and yes it was an amazing achievement, but as an achievement it was more about taking things that already existed and making them them work for the purpose of space exploration. Would you call that that the greatest? Hmm, I'm not convinced, though I rarely am

    Oh, I believe man went to the moon. I saw a programme once which put forward the argument that the lunar landing was faked and, on the face of it, it was pretty convincing, but only one side of the story. It doesn't take too much to debunk the debunkers. But is this pervasion of the conspiracy a modern thing? Conspiracy theories always strike me as very 1960's.

    As for kids 'these days', sure, my kids are more cynical than I am about what they see on TV, and they're overwhelmed with media everyday, billboards, TV, internet, newspapers, magazines, information thrust down their throats 24/7. And it's different for us oldies because when we were doing our learning and forming and growing we didn't have quite so much of this stuff to filter through. So as kids of the information age I think they're really keyed up to question what they see/are told because on any subject there are a myriad of points of views straight in your face, and a multitude of 'brands' all telling you what it is you really want even though you don't know it, and those commercials with the fake science (think: Loreal, Activia, and so on), and somehow they have to filter their way through that.

    You might want to read Bear v Shark by Chris Batcheldor. That has an interesting view of the media age.

    Interesting article Virge.
  17. Virgil's Avatar
    Wow, so many comments, and lengthy ones at that. Not sure if I can respond to them all but let me try.

    First I do want to thank everyone who liked the writing. First and foremost this blog is an ongoing attempt to improve my writing. I’m striving toward a personal essay, a little realized art form. If you ever have the opportunity to pick up this anthology, http://www.amazon.com/Art-Personal-E.../dp/038542339X, it’s a great read. I guess over the years my writing has withered, writing at work technical reports, contracts, and memos. Nothing is worst than contracts. Poor Claes, as a quality engineer you’ve probably had to write quality assurance plans, probably a close second to contracts in their lack of creativity. I think this was better than my other blog on getting old, which I was also writing as a personal essay.

    Sophia and Fifth – I do not think they started with Watergate or the 1960s, though we may have noticed an escalation in those times. In my cursory research on it I found that conspiracy theories have always been around us. There have been holocaust deniers since the holocaust and urban legends of Jews killing babies since the middle ages, and the whole witch concept which led to their burnings is an elaborate conspiracy theory (women and some men in league with the devil). You would think with modern education and mass media there would be fewer conspiracies, but no. I don’t think it has to do with education or intelligence at all. I think they are part of the human condition. How many men claim at a job that a woman has advanced ahead of them by giving the boss sexual favors? While that’s not quite a conspiracy theory, it’s similar. Plus the Fascists gained power in some part on conspiracy theories in the 20s and 30s.

    I think Lady Went and Sleepy hit on various traits of people who are obsessed with them: cynicism, smugness, frustration. I think there may be something to that. Though it’s not complete I think. I think a sense of powerlessness is part of it, mixed in with a touch of paranoia. I think we can all succumb to a theory here and there, but there are people who indulge in a panoply of them. Now you make an interesting observation Sleepy. I have no idea whether Americans are more prone to this than Europeans. Certainly freedom of speech allows people to say whatever they want, and that leads some to believe whatever is said. Certainly theories about immigrants abound in all countries, the fear of the stranger.

    Sophia and Prince – Good point about avoiding culpability and responsibility. I like that “short, paranoid leap.”

    Fifth – There does seem to be an escalation of TV shows about some sort of conspiracy going on. I tend to think art reflects reality rather than shape it. Perhaps there are more going on now. Oh I bet certain eras might have more conspiracies than others. And yes, I do regard the lunar landings as the greatest technological achievement. Sure there were lots of previous achievements that had to occur on which the lunar landings had to build upon. But first it grabs your imagination like nothing else can and second the shear complexity of subsystems on top of subsystems that had to work in unison for the whole thing to occur is mind boggling. This is not single point invention but a matrix of technologies with life and death stakes.

    Opti – I think Presidents and Prime Ministers have acknowledged that WMDs turned out to not exist. But frankly that wasn’t the only reason for Iraq, among them being the removal of a dictator who had gassed and tortured ethnic groups in his own country on a mass scale, started two wars, including the pillaging of the country of Kuwait, repeatedly threatened his neighbors, and violated the agreement which left him in power after the 1991 Gulf War. If he didn’t have WMDs, he certainly acted like he did, and that was a threat given his history which could not be ignored. If that’s what you want to defend, that’s your business. I’m proud of that Iraqi woman with the purple finger who voted.
  18. andave_ya's Avatar
    Lots of interesting opinions. Just want to say - faith is the evidence of things hoped for .

    Anyways, I learned something kind of interesting from my government and economics textbook the other day. I read about dialectical reasoning, I think it was called, where a fact works against another fact to create a new fact. (thesis and antithesis merge to create synthesis.) This idea that nothing is absolute led to, obviously, relativism which, well, opened Pandora's proverbial box. So really, obvious things don't factor in - it's whatever people think. .
  19. LostPrincess13's Avatar
    Hello there Unca Virg!

    I actually heard about this rumor back in grade school. I'm very fascinated by conspiracy theories and I research a lot about them. If you like, I can email you the material.

    Love lots,
    Princess
  20. Virgil's Avatar
    LostPrincess, thanks a lot, but I'm not really interested. There seems to be a lot on the internet on it, not that I'm going to waste my time with that either. It seems to me that there is a conspiracy to invent a conspiracy.
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