Results 1 to 9 of 9

Thread: Experimental Fiction

  1. #1
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Posts
    22

    Experimental Fiction

    What are some of the best experimental fiction writers?

    Personally, I love experimental writing. I do, however, believe that some writers stray too much and the writing becomes unreadable. Or things are so abstract that they are truly nothing at all. Just another un-entertaining journey for no reason at all.

    I really like Ben Brooks. He wrote a book recently called Fences. He plays a mad game with the font, which he uses to change up emotion and emphasis. It's quite readable as well. It, of course, doesn't pursue the traditional narrative forms but it's not too out there either.

    Is experimental fiction needed today more than ever? Or, in your opinion, is it mainly just nonsense by authors who don't understand craft?

  2. #2
    λάθε arrytus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Southern California
    Posts
    154
    I've not read it through but Danieliwski's 'House of Leaves' is pretty strange
    Bist du beschränkt, daß neues Wort dich stört?
    Willst du nur hören, was du schon gehört?

  3. #3
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    134
    Quote Originally Posted by Sulla View Post
    I really like Ben Brooks. He wrote a book recently called Fences. He plays a mad game with the font, which he uses to change up emotion and emphasis. It's quite readable as well. It, of course, doesn't pursue the traditional narrative forms but it's not too out there either.
    This actually makes me mad. Sounds like an unnecessary gimmick the author used just to come off as 'innovative'. Real experimentalist authors have a very good explanation for all of their techniques.

  4. #4
    Registered User Belphegor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Colorado
    Posts
    2
    Of course it all depends on what you consider experimental. I probably include more writers than most people.

    I've only read experimental fiction recently, but I dislike the title "experimental". It makes it sound like the whole point of it is to perform literary tricks. But yeah, reading experimental fiction is a good way to weed out the boring, realist, neo-Victorian crap that is usually passed off as literary IMO. You know, the novelists who almost completely ignore Kafka, Beckett, literary theory, etc.

    Besides the obvious stuff, I highly recommend David Markson (since Wittgenstein's Mistress), Jacques Roubaud (The Great Fire of London, The Loop), Tom McCarthy, Gabriel Josipovici and Steve Tomasula. Blake Butler is a pretty good contemporary writer. I'm probably missing a lot of good experimental writers; I'm looking for recommendations especially of foreign writers. I haven't read Ben Brooks yet.

    As for House of Leaves, I don't know. I'm reluctant to read it because to me it seems like the whole point of it is to mess with typesetting and to show off a Derridean influence.

  5. #5
    Bibliophile Drkshadow03's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    My heart lives in New York.
    Posts
    1,716
    "You understand well enough what slavery is, but freedom you have never experienced, so you do not know if it tastes sweet or bitter. If you ever did come to experience it, you would advise us to fight for it not with spears only, but with axes too." - Herodotus

    https://consolationofreading.wordpress.com/ - my book blog!
    Feed the Hungry!

  6. #6
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Illinois
    Posts
    5,046
    Blog Entries
    16
    I guess it isn't really "experimental," but the stories sure are strange (and wonderful) in Jeff VanderMeer's City of Saint and Madmen.

    And that was hilarious, Darkshadow03. "6. Mother is dead"--LOL.

  7. #7
    Bibliophile Drkshadow03's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    My heart lives in New York.
    Posts
    1,716
    Quote Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandi View Post
    I guess it isn't really "experimental," but the stories sure are strange (and wonderful) in Jeff VanderMeer's City of Saint and Madmen.

    And that was hilarious, Darkshadow03. "6. Mother is dead"--LOL.
    Yeah, experimental fiction is tricky in that one can confuse merely weird stories (content) or unusually told stories (prose level) with experimental (which I tend to think of happening on a stylistic/structural level).

    Like would anyone consider this story an experimental story or merely off-beat/unusual?
    "You understand well enough what slavery is, but freedom you have never experienced, so you do not know if it tastes sweet or bitter. If you ever did come to experience it, you would advise us to fight for it not with spears only, but with axes too." - Herodotus

    https://consolationofreading.wordpress.com/ - my book blog!
    Feed the Hungry!

  8. #8
    unidentified hit record blp's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    2,436
    Blog Entries
    40
    Kathy Acker, especially Blood and Guts in Highschool and Great Expectations, is essential.

    House of Leaves is thin gruel and goes nowhere.

  9. #9
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Posts
    22
    Quote Originally Posted by hanzklein View Post
    This actually makes me mad. Sounds like an unnecessary gimmick the author used just to come off as 'innovative'. Real experimentalist authors have a very good explanation for all of their techniques.
    He adjusts font size (I should've probably clarified in the initial post).

    I don't think he uses it as a gimmick but rather uses it as part of his writing. The page can be seen as a canvas. Part of the reading is a visual experience. Focus is changed and re-arranged depending on font size.

    What authors do you think have a good reason for their experimental technique? Isn't the answer very subjective? Especially given the fact that you haven't actually read Ben Brooks before or know anything about him.

Similar Threads

  1. Fiction vs. philosophy
    By African_Love in forum Philosophical Literature
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 09-16-2010, 11:49 AM
  2. 'Literary' fiction vs. 'Genre' fiction
    By JoeLopp in forum General Writing
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 09-02-2010, 11:55 AM
  3. Science fiction vs. fantasy
    By African_Love in forum General Literature
    Replies: 34
    Last Post: 07-28-2010, 08:23 AM
  4. Literary fiction vs. mainstream commercial fiction
    By TheOutlander in forum General Literature
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 01-21-2009, 10:47 PM
  5. What is post-modernism, exactly?
    By waryan in forum General Literature
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 04-23-2008, 07:08 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •