Now let me say that I think the whole idea of star signs controlling our lives is nonsense. But recently, after a number of years, I met someone who has a very great affinity with the way I think and the things I believe in. She is a little toughie not given to self-deception, so I was surprised when she asked me my star sign and I found we were both born under the same sign. I still think it is nonsense but what do other Litnetters think about Astrology?
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"L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.
"Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.
Gemini - Yes, it seems the world is against you, but this week perceptions are deceptions, and your life is really an expertly executed trompe l’oel, only you are to blame for any further nose breakages. Remember when you were young? It’s only a memory.
Cancer - Weren’t you listening last week? Now what to do - short of poisoning the dog and finding the perfect vantage point atop the MLC building (but if it’s the only option try the slingshot this time - spitballs are out of favour)
Leo - Time to discard those deadbeats you’ve let hound you seemingly for ever (or indeed forever!) But what to replace them with? Simple, a better class of deadbeat - others do it, now’s your chance. How can these newbies enhance your fruitless existence, or further, how can you make them? But first the Big Question will be how to win them over. Lies? Treachery? Deceit? These techniques have all held you in good stead before - where did you go wrong?
Virgo - When the only colour is black, it can be difficult to tell what colour black actually is - well it's not red but it might feel like it when the blanket has finally lifted. The main issue will surely have to do with money. Or rather how to keep your small pile from the prying eyes and thieving hands of your N and D
Libra - Still talking to the aliens eh? And the bus seats just aren’t getting any better. Perhaps it’s time you talked to the aliens on the buses. The seats won’t get any better but at least you’ll be guaranteed more room.
Scorpio - Mischievous Pluto’s in haughty Sagittarius this week, which means every past mistake and sin are waiting in the wings to pounce when least expected. Don’t go making plans to socialise nor impress - it’ll only get you in hotter water than you’re already in. You’ll spill the soup and do something you’ll never live down
Sagittarius - Time to get creative - use that boundless energy to confound and confuse your enemies, which by now are legion. Alternately you can just hire someone to-... perhaps too drastic? Remember they might not think the same about you. They will however consider whether you’re worth the expense.
Capricorn - Genius reigns supreme in your mystical sector, but are you strong enough to focus it into something solid/worthwhile? No, so instead you’ll curl up in bed with a book by someone of greater genius. As Nabokov said: ‘genius is patience’, and you’ll need more than patience to get through the third-rate effort you’ve chosen. Instead try The Bible, and consolidate your argument for when the Mormons next visit.
Aquarius - Tired/weary? Bored/angry? You deserve to be. And shot. The way you’ve been behaving lately, not to mention the way you’ve been treating those closest, it’s only a matter of time. They may be only words to you but the illiterate do tend to take things literally. It may not be entirely your fault you made those bad investments, but nor is it anyone elses.
Pisces - Attention all fish! Feeling washed up? This is the time to sieze the day, to surface and evolve into something greater. Thinking can be difficult at first but before you know it you’ll have free will and self-determination and that mortgage won’t be a problem.
Aries - Full moon lurking in the shadows, but you have much larger, more sweeping, farther reaching troubles. What, for instance, will you do with the body under the bed? Never mind how it got there, don’t think you can bury it.
Taurus- Ah, you guys, What to do, What to do? It’s not your fault you were born without talent and the brain capacity of the average distended amoeba. But before you decide to go blaming the universe on your mess of a life, there’s still time to do something useful. Parliament’s full of politicians, which even taken as a collective hole, are destined to achieve less than you can in a moment of inspiration.
I haven't really paid much attention to Western astrology, but the Chinese version that you occasionally get on place mats in Chinese restaurants has often been entertaining. I guess I would be a Sagittarius by Western standards and a dragon by Eastern standards.
I suspect the messages in fortune cookies might be as good a method as any to getting insight into whatever.
In general, I don't see any need to "believe" in these things. They should be something you can experiment with to find out how well they work or don't work. I suspect for some people they work better than for others. That's about as far as I would be able to go at the moment to grant them validity.
Edit: There is a way to answer simple Yes and No questions using a pendulum. You can search for this on YouTube to get an example of what this is about. I suspect this might work better than astrology since you can practice it and see if you improve your predicting ability. I did try it once and found I didn't quite have what it took to get beyond random in the tests I ran. The person who introduced this to me was more talented than I was.
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I believe it's crap. No offence to any believers.
I find it really sad that people want so desperately to feel important, in a cosmic sense (tiny and insignificant specks of dust floating into space that they are).
Whatever happens to me during my lifetime has absolutely no significance for the cosmos. Castor and Pollux being several light years away from earth (approx 50 and 30 respectively) have nothing to do with me. Even the fact that i was given the gemini sign just because i was born in june is quite arbitrary.
Through the darkness of future past
the magician longs to see
one chance out between two worlds
'Fire walk with me.'
Twin Peaks
It's nonsense. And discriminating, if you think about it.
How so?Originally Posted by Dodo25
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"Personal note: When I was a little kid my mother told me not to stare into the sun. So once when I was six, I did. At first the brightness was overwhelming, but I had seen that before. I kept looking, forcing myself not to blink, and then the brightness began to dissolve. My pupils shrunk to pinholes and everything came into focus and for a moment I understood. The doctors didn't know if my eyes would ever heal."
-Pi
Imagine someone actually believes that her soulmate is a specific star sign. Eleven twelfths of the population would arbitrarily be ruled out from her consideration.
Dawkins quote:
"Amusingly, it [astrology] falls foul of our modern taboo against lazy stereotyping. How would we react if a newspaper published a daily column that read something like this: "Germans: It is in your nature to be hard-working and methodical, which should serve you well at work today. In your personal relationships, especially this evening, you will need to curb your natural tendency to obey orders. Chinese: Inscrutability has many advantages, but it may be your undoing today. British: Your stiff upper lip may serve you well in business dealings, but try to relax and let yourself go in your social life."
Ahem. Virgo, with Sagittarius rising, here.
I don't know that I believe in astrology. I enjoy it. Linda Goodman's Sun Signs is really fun to read. I find hers to be a surprisingly accurate assessment of my character. Does it affect my life? Not at all. It's not fortune telling. Did being born in September cause me to be this way? I don't know. It seems unlikely.
It might give you a smidgen of insight into yourself, if your reading something that is well done (not that newspaper crap), but anyone who's willing to work, think, grow can achieve that without astrology.
"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its' own reason for existing." ~ Albert Einstein
"Remember, no matter where you go, there you are." Buckaroo Bonzai "Some people say I done alright for a girl." Melanie Safka
I'll be quite happy to give serious consideration to astrology when someone explains to me how it works.
Impossible!
"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its' own reason for existing." ~ Albert Einstein
"Remember, no matter where you go, there you are." Buckaroo Bonzai "Some people say I done alright for a girl." Melanie Safka
I am a cancer, ascendent scorpion. In the Chinese world I am a sheep/goat...
Some characteristics seem to fit perfectly, but I think this is pure coincidence. Probably other signs would fit too, but we do not take a closer look at them.
It is nonsense, but at least it can also be funny.
The one thing that makes me sad is an article I read some time ago (or did I hear it on the radio?). It said that there are really enterprises which hire people according to their horoscope...
Back again for some reason.
In the way that all self-help books contain an element of truth, so can horrorscopes. They can be an easy fun read (like numerology, one of those novels that can purportedly change your life, Spike Milligan's sillier verse), but take it too seriously and read too much into it you risk the possibility of ruining it for yourself
An explanation of my earlier post (if any were needed): it's part 1 of 12 bad poems designed for a poetry meeting, with each consecutive part filling in the details of the relationship with each other until ultimately all are entwined and related to each other
It was supposed to be clever but I only made it to part 6 before my braincell *snapped*
Anyway, keep having fun! (And someone please post after me immediately)
Yeah, I don't really understand how it works either. I think that it has something to do with which constellation is in closest proximity to the moon when seen from the hemisphere that you're born in at the time of your birth, and then you're assumed to have certain character traits depending on the "personality" of that constellation.
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"Personal note: When I was a little kid my mother told me not to stare into the sun. So once when I was six, I did. At first the brightness was overwhelming, but I had seen that before. I kept looking, forcing myself not to blink, and then the brightness began to dissolve. My pupils shrunk to pinholes and everything came into focus and for a moment I understood. The doctors didn't know if my eyes would ever heal."
-Pi
No - I understand that bit. I mean that I want someone to explain to me how my personality is shaped by light emitted from stars thousands of years ago and perceived at the moment of my birth, if anyone happens to be watching which I certainly wasn't, and how, even if that's true, those same random and remote bodies can act as predictors of my future at a detailed and very personal level, and incidentally, given that they publish horoscopes daily and the movement of the stars is so predictable, why can't every single day of my life be predicted at the moment of my birth?
You wouldn't be suggesting it's a steaming pile of... mumbo jumbo?
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