The Home Page on my computer is by MSN and is full of items about "celebrities", pop groups, the world's biggest this, smallest that and other forms of juvenilia. So it's not surprising that UFOs feature prominently. Allowing for the hyperbole and fakes, some of the footage shown does pose a question about the origin of some of the objects. I suspect that this subject has been raised elsewhere on these forums but I am interested in ascertaining other members views.
"L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.
"Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.
I'm not really a buyer I think. I know that some footage looks mysterious but I'm probably more of a skeptic. Maybe some of them were prototype cold war spy planes or something, I don't know?
Yes, I'm sceptical too and I imagine that some were , as you say, secret aircraft developed during the cold war and even now, because governments may still want to keep potential enemies in the dark. However, I think the sightings have been too numerous for that to be the whole picture. Many of them must be due to natural phenomena and, as I mentioned, some of them are faked but there is still a question mark over the origin of some of the objects sighted.Originally Posted by Neely
"L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.
"Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.
I'm pretty doubtful about the validity of UFO sightings, but it'd be pretty silly to think we're the only live conscious beings out there. I'm not a believer, but I'm not a non-believer either, if that makes sense.
Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better, it's not.
Well, all I can say is that I spend a fair bit of time stargazing, and I've never yet seen anything up there that I can't explain.
I don't think we're alone in the Universe, but nor do I think small green men fly down in their saucers and kidnap hillbillies for a spot of friendly anal probing.
It'll be a while before I break out the tin foil hat...
"I should only believe in a God that would know how to dance. And when I saw my devil, I found him serious, thorough, profound, solemn: he was the spirit of gravity- through him all things fall. Not by wrath, but by laughter, do we slay. Come, let us slay the spirit of gravity!" - Nietzsche
I don't care for MSN, I use google as my home page.
I have to agree with you.
Do, or do not. There is no try. - Yoda
Many people likely mistake common flying objects, like airplanes, for UFOs when they've been up much too long, or been having much too much fun with various legal and illegal substances.
I'm sort of like several people here -- it wouldn't surprise me at all that life exists outside our planet. And, really, now that I think of it, it wouldn't surprise me much if UFOs -- in whatever form they may be -- have visited us in some way. I would be surprised if a UFO is big, metal ship. Anything capable of traveling through that much space has surely found a better way than that.
“Oh crap”
-- Hellboy
Like everyone else who posts, I doubt whether the pictures we have are actually ships. The potential for life is high, somewhere in the universe. But the idea that the ships are evidence of it are doubtable. I think that the sign of UFOs are often a) weather balloons, b) test aircraft(specifically with pictures in Area 51), 3) Pictoral anomalies, or 4) Photoshop.
Can you give links?
Pretty hard to comment without seeing what you mean, although every single UFO photo to date hasn't been evidence of alien contact, so I'm highly doubtful these will be anything more than the usual fakery, mistaken identification and tricks of light that all the others have been.
The idea of UFOs visiting earth is laughable, given the distances involved. An alien species able to defeat light-speed and pick us out of thousands of trillions of stars & planets would probably figure out a way to send a message rather than an anonymous spaceship.
The fact that UFOlogists believe crop circles are made by aliens is a clue to the level of delusion involved in the fantasy.
Go to work, get married, have some kids, pay your taxes, pay your bills, watch your tv, follow fashion, act normal, obey the law and repeat after me: "I am free."
Anon
Actually on the history Chanel there was a very interesting documentary series called ancient aliens, the theory suggested was that UFO's from space first planted the seeds of life on earth and in some way guided humanity, it was laughable at some points yet at others its was very interesting, any of you guys see it ?
I read a good description of the distances involved in space in Bill Bryson's A Short History of Nearly Everything. Fascinating.
Stuff that you can't identify = UFOs - ok. How that somehow implies visiting aliens I'm not sure.
I’ve always held out for the possibility. Perhaps it is a lingering fascination from my childhood.
My son and I are familiar with the History Channel program and have watched it.
He is particularly fascinated in the Mesoamerican alien connection. (Look, if it keeps him off the street, then by all means!)
Now for those who seek hard evidence, (Atheist, that includes you) look no further than Roswell New Mexico. Pay a visit to the “UFO Museum and Research Center” on Main Street. We’ve been to the museum twice, the most recent trip being this past March.
Below you will find the link to the museum web site. Hopefully the link will remain intact as it travels the firmament to our readers in distant lands. For those with little time or interest, I would suggest you at least consider the “Roswell Incident” and “Virtual Tour” tabs at the left side of the screen and listen to the 1947 radio broadcast just below the images.
http://www.roswellufomuseum.com/
In closing, here is a photo from one of the museum’s exhibits:
The life size diorama depicts the famed alien autopsy carried out on one of the occupants of the saucer that crashed near Roswell.
And here is a “Basic Alien Types” chart I found on display:
Another interesting UFO phenomenon is the “Marfa Lights” in Texas:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFnDrG1iH04
Gilliatt
Yes indeed.
People who think earth is visited by aliens suck at maths.
Me too. Many's the night my wife and I stare at the stars wishing Gort would arrive.
Hey, I was AT the autopsy.
Go to work, get married, have some kids, pay your taxes, pay your bills, watch your tv, follow fashion, act normal, obey the law and repeat after me: "I am free."
Anon
Were you the one on the table?Hey, I was AT the autopsy.
"L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.
"Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.
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