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    Quote Originally Posted by nessgavin View Post
    It's helping me to read some philosophy. Existentialism, Neitzche, etc.
    Dostoevsky, who just about pre-dates Nietzsche's writings, would have been much influenced by the Danish priest, Soren Kierkegaard. I particularly loved The Idiot: starring Kierkegaard's knight of faith.
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    I thought his motive was hate, yes, but also justice. Why should this man live and defile the earth? That was the question and Ivan gave Smerdykov the rationale to do away with him. Just as Raskolnikov got rid of the landlady. Without God all is permitted and man can make his own justice. With God, it's only God who can judge man.

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    I hadn't checked the dates. So Dostoyevsky came before Neitzche? I think Freud came after. I'll have to check, they're all so close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nessgavin View Post
    I hadn't checked the dates. So Dostoyevsky came before Neitzche? I think Freud came after. I'll have to check, they're all so close.
    They both came after Dostoevsky, numerous times Freud stated that Dostoevsky had a great influence on his work.
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    I just checked the dates. Nietzsche wrote before and after BK. I had to check because I see so much of Nietzsche in BK. "slave morality" for instance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nessgavin View Post
    Nietzsche wrote before and after BK.
    Yes, but many a great novel, with existential themes, pre-dates Nietzsche's writings. For instance, from Wiki:

    # 1864 – Notes from Underground
    # 1866 – Crime and Punishment
    # 1867 – The Gambler
    # 1869 – The Idiot
    # 1870 – The Eternal Husband

    Perhaps Dostoevsky influenced Nietzsche.
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