Go to work, get married, have some kids, pay your taxes, pay your bills, watch your tv, follow fashion, act normal, obey the law and repeat after me: "I am free."
Anon
This is now becoming my monthly drive thru/by shooting off of the mouth. I'd tell you what I was referring to but that would give you an unfair advantage wouldn't it? I'll just use quotes in making reference. The reading this month was much more interesting than previous times when my virus detector found a trojan horse on-site.
Anyone heard of the Madrid fault in the middle of the U.S.? Sand geysers and all. No loss of life in Kiwi land is a thankful thing.
Someone on site older than Jocky? God forbid.
No politics allowed, but the host (reference our parasitic nature) here in the states sells adds for even the senatorial race in NV. Adieu.
heavenly blue morning glory
You should make it weekly, or at the very least give Parker advance warning!
Seriously?
I find that a bit odd - I come in at least daily and haven't ever seen a sign of one. Or are you referring that Saffer? A sneaky disguise if ever I saw one!
Even more amazing, the Christchurch quake was slightly stronger than Haiti's one, yet the death toll of zero compares pretty favourably with haiti's 230,000.
I looked up the [New] Madrid fault - never heard of it before. Interesting stuff.
That's Google, not LitNet.
Go to work, get married, have some kids, pay your taxes, pay your bills, watch your tv, follow fashion, act normal, obey the law and repeat after me: "I am free."
Anon
How's about this chap in the US burning The Koran. Is this a Freedom of Speech too Far?
I think the media should have to answer for any problems from this. Not only is it potentially putting lives at risk, but it's polarising opinion - straight into the arms of the terrorists.
In the UK we have inciting racial or religious hatred laws. Is there nothing similar in the US?
Great to hear from you Gb, even if you have come back with an insult.
From what I can gather the authorities can only take action once an offence has taken place. I am sure some of our American friends can enlighten us as to the legal position. If it is allowed under the Constitution I doubt if anything can be done as this is inviolable. Saturday should be an interesting day.
No.
The people who feel upset by this need to harden up.
Islam has been perverted by people who say it ok to kill infidels. I don't see the same mullahs screaming about that, so why should anyone care what they think about someone burning a book?
I disagree. Mockery is the best medicine against extremism. As with the Danish cartoons, if the response is violent, the problem is solely with those causing the violence.
Not that covers this, no.
Just as Americans may burn their flag and effigies of their president and have groups like the KKK, they are most welcome to burn qurans as they see fit.
Funnily enough, the main problem for the church is that they need to get a permit for a fire in the open, and they won't get it.
From my perspective, this stuff is great - both sides hate atheism, so it's nice to sit back and watch them attack each other for a change.
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Go to work, get married, have some kids, pay your taxes, pay your bills, watch your tv, follow fashion, act normal, obey the law and repeat after me: "I am free."
Anon
It is a difficult one Atheist, burning books is anathema to most people, yet I would happily consign the Bible, Talmud, Bhagavad Gita and all the other bronze age works of theology to the flames. As you point out it is the fundies on all sides who create the violence. Yet we are where we are and the repercussions could be horrendous. Worrying times.
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Personally, I keep a pile of Ghidean Bibles for use as kindling when it gets cold in the winter. At least, those are given out for free. I can just imagine the killing Qu'ran publishers are making right now.
When I first received a Gideon (looked up the spelling, haha) from a random stranger in a suit outside my high school as a teenager. I, of course, rushed home to eagerly spend my evening reading the Holy Book, only to discover it only contained the New Testament, what a gyp. I think it's a marketing ploy to try and get you to go out and buy the complete thing.
My favorite religious group is still the Raelians, with their cloning hoaxes and weird UFO village cult headquarters. They're off their rocker, but it's hard to dislike a group that just wants to hang out talking about aliens and having orgies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%ABlism
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Alien’s, UFO’s, Lights, Bigfoot…now you’re talking my language.
Remember the Marfa Lights Jocky?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuPpV...eature=related
Yours truly captivated by the reflection of an alien craft that landed in Chicago:
(Yes; I’m wearing my Roswell Mystery Cover Up” T-shirt)
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The problem is that the people who this affects - in Afghanistan for example - don't have acces to liberal ideas, are easily polarised, however ridiculous it is to you and I, and just aren't critical in their regard of their own culture, leaders etc.
I agree that humour is the best response - for a more enlightened western society, but these are more feudal and display a distinct lack of humour about some things.
I also agree that there should be more self criticism.
Is it too serious for our relaxation area. Apologies if it is.
I agree that's it's not cut and dried, but I also think that allowing ourselves to be intimidated by threats of violence as worse than any of the alternatives.
I start to add it up - the Danish cartoons, Southpark, now the quran - where does it end? The edge of the wedge seems to be half of the wedge all of a sudden.
Same reason I like Wiccans and Rastafarians. Any group whose idea of a good time is feasting and having an orgy - or getting high and having sex - can't be all bad!
We used to have those Gideon bibles given out officially when I was in high school. I recall being horrified at the time when some of the less well-bred pupils ripped them up. I still think book burning is pretty juvenile, but I'll defend the rights of people who want to do it.
Nah, best place to discuss this kind of absurdity is over a quiet whisky - and if anyone gets too stroppy, Parker's nephew is downstairs. You'll recognise him as the bloke doing bench-presses with 280 kg on the bar.
The trouble is, now that the burning has even been mooted, nothing will make things any better anyway - much better to go ahead and get it over with. If it isn't this, it'll be something else. The reaction of some parts of America to the proposed mosque at Ground Zero is as bad as the reaction to the quran burning, as far as I can tell.
Go to work, get married, have some kids, pay your taxes, pay your bills, watch your tv, follow fashion, act normal, obey the law and repeat after me: "I am free."
Anon