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    Quote Originally Posted by myrna22 View Post
    If you think Lord of the Flies is a simple book, then you either don't remember it well or you were taught an abridged version in 8th grade. As far as I have seen, in teaching English in 4 different countries to English speaking students, it is taught in 10th grade. If you read it in 8th grade, you were at a very advanced school.
    I wasn't in an advanced program in grade 8 (I was from grade 9 onwards though). Although, I pursued a bilingual education program, half my courses were in French and half in English. The program did emphasize language courses and required higher performance than the standard stream.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanPip View Post
    I wasn't in an advanced program in grade 8 (I was from grade 9 onwards though). Although, I pursued a bilingual education program, half my courses were in French and half in English. The program did emphasize language courses and required higher performance than the standard stream.
    I wouldn't even debate, Pip. From what I can tell, Myrna's posts are always aggressive and usually unhelpful.

    The said poster just attacks people but when refuted, gets emotional or doesn't respond.

    Your posts, as are many on here, are completely legitimate opinions. Some of the books may be hard/long/boring, but ultimately that will be for the OP to decide.

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    Cool She says she wants them short and simple .....

    so someone recommends The Count of Monte Cristo. I sometimes wonder if respondents ever read a post beyond three or four words. The only responses which make any sense are the ones from myrna22. This time (not always) I am in complete agreement with her. In looking back to when I first started reading, I came up with some of the shorter novels by Steinbeck such as The Red Pony. The Black Stallion books by Walter Farley are fairly simple, but interesting. For a longer book, but not too complex, try The Swiss Family Robinson, Journey to the Center of the Earth, or Robinson Crusoe.
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    thanks for the advices
    I bought two books that I found them easy for me to read
    the alchemist by paulo coelho
    pride and prejudice by jane austen
    so, what do you think about them ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfloyd View Post
    so someone recommends The Count of Monte Cristo. I sometimes wonder if respondents ever read a post beyond three or four words. The only response which makes any sense is the ones from myrna22. This time (not always) I am in complete agreement with her. In looking back to when I first started reading, I came up with some of the shorter novels by Steinbeck such as The Red Pony. The Black Stallion books by Walter Farley are fairly simple, but interesting. For a longer book, but not too complex, try The Swiss Family Robinson, Journey to the Center of the Earth, or Robinson Crusoe.
    Robinson Crusoe might be easy regarding plot and background, but it was certainly not a piece of cake vocab-wise.

    I thought we were advising a person who is still learning English here, not who is only starting to read properly. That's why we asked questions with WH and the like. Vocab in those is much too difficult. The Count of Monte Cristo is my view should be ok (if it is properly translated, Dumas's French was fine), but it is far too long for a comfortable read in a language that is not really your great strength.

    @Kairi:

    No experience with Coelho, but it is at least modern, so you won't have a problem with old vocab.

    Pride and Prejudice I find a brave choice, but if you have checked, then it is fine. There is a forum on that on this website by the way (further down on the starting Forum page under Austen, Jane).
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    Quote Originally Posted by dfloyd View Post
    so someone recommends The Count of Monte Cristo. I sometimes wonder if respondents ever read a post beyond three or four words. The only responses which make any sense are the ones from myrna22. This time (not always) I am in complete agreement with her. In looking back to when I first started reading, I came up with some of the shorter novels by Steinbeck such as The Red Pony. The Black Stallion books by Walter Farley are fairly simple, but interesting. For a longer book, but not too complex, try The Swiss Family Robinson, Journey to the Center of the Earth, or Robinson Crusoe.
    Sorry, but this time you are the one who has misread. While you can debate what is simple and what is not, the FACT is that the OP said simple and interesting, not simple and short.

    The Count of Monte Cristo is famous for its being interesting and Dumas is famous for not being especially complex in his language. I don't know exactly what the OP is looking for, but as a suggestion, this book is fine. The OP would immediately see that it was over a 1000 pages and decide from there if they want to read it.

    What I was bringing up in my previous post was the difference between politely disagreeing with someone's opinion about what is easy or difficult, and myrna's coming in here and telling the OP to ignore everyone and try a different method.

    I usually agree with you dFloyd and respect your opinion, but thought it ironic that you said we don't read the whole post, when you are the one who got the facts wrong.

    As it turns out, the OP found Pride and Prejudice at their level, which pretty much means everything mentioned here is fair game.

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    hi there,
    i am a native speaker, but i live in a different country, so in my english class all the others are not native speakers. we read things like the great gatsby and a midsummmer night's dream, but most of the pupils find that too hard. i can recommend roald dahl (matilda, the bfg and so on may be children's books originally but that doesn't make them less interesting for adults) especially his short stories (lamb to the slaughter, dip in the pool).
    personally i would say pride and predjudice may be too difficult, but of course that also depends on how interested you are
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