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    Black humor

    Quote Originally Posted by PrinceMyshkin View Post
    Surely you mean this as some sort of very black humour?
    Surely, but no blacker than a cold-cocked nun. God I suppose might forgive the former, but I think you may do hard time for the sisters troubles.
    "Remember, we are all in this alone." - Lilly Tomlin

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    "On the eighth day..."

    Quote Originally Posted by firefangled View Post
    A marvelous thought...and God paused and saw that it was good, and morning and evening were subordinate clauses of the sentence beginning...on the sixth day.
    Thank you, Rev. Ff, and may I immodestly quote my emendation of Genesis:

    On the eighth day God created the middle class and sent it forth to appraise the world and to find it less than adequate;
    And on the ninth day God created the children of the middle class...

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    You know, Prince, I started out reading your work somewhat apathetically; Understanding my lack of engagement as a reaction against our wildly different modes and tastes of aesthetic expression. But the more I read from you, the more impressed I am. I mentioned the facility of your pieces before, but this one really shows off your effortless gift of similie and metaphor. Everything flows so naturally and not even a single word seems forced. I would sacrifice my entire 'gift' (if I can even justify calling it that) for wordplay for your genuine and undeniable gift for your laconic but piercing insight.

    Just brilliant, truly.
    "As far as we can discern, the sole purpose of human existence is to kindle a light of meaning in the darkness of mere being." --Carl Gustav Jung

    "To absent friends, lost loves, old gods, and the season of mists; and may each and every one of us always give the devil his due." --Neil Gaiman; The Sandman Vol. 4: Season of Mists

    "I'm on my way, from misery to happiness today. Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh" --The Proclaimers

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    Quote Originally Posted by MorpheusSandman View Post
    You know, Prince, I started out reading your work somewhat apathetically; Understanding my lack of engagement as a reaction against our wildly different modes and tastes of aesthetic expression. But the more I read from you, the more impressed I am. I mentioned the facility of your pieces before, but this one really shows off your effortless gift of similie and metaphor. Everything flows so naturally and not even a single word seems forced. I would sacrifice my entire 'gift' (if I can even justify calling it that) for wordplay for your genuine and undeniable gift for your laconic but piercing insight.

    Just brilliant, truly.
    I could reply to this by bawling in gratitude had I not been brought up in the paternalist tradition that "men" (albeit very small men, three years of age)"don't cry," but... you get the idea! Of course it's best to get such appreciation from someone who holds antithetical aesthetic ideas, but may I say if you had my "gift," what would become of your own as it is now and will be further developed?

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrinceMyshkin View Post
    if you had my "gift," what would become of your own as it is now and will be further developed?
    Grass is always greener and all those musty (but still very true) epigrams.
    "As far as we can discern, the sole purpose of human existence is to kindle a light of meaning in the darkness of mere being." --Carl Gustav Jung

    "To absent friends, lost loves, old gods, and the season of mists; and may each and every one of us always give the devil his due." --Neil Gaiman; The Sandman Vol. 4: Season of Mists

    "I'm on my way, from misery to happiness today. Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh" --The Proclaimers

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrinceMyshkin View Post

    On the eighth day God created the middle class and sent it forth to appraise the world and to find it less than adequate;
    And on the ninth day God created the children of the middle class...
    Some of us in the middle class know for a fact that God developed the proof of concept for the MC on the Sabbath and possibly a prototype. Where do you think we got our work ethic? Certainly not from Piers Plowman! And the Pilgrim's Progress is just a story we were told to make us sleep and dream of entitlements to come.

    The children created on the ninth day were penance for the party we had on the eighth day that nearly shattered the earth. We of the middle class were to vain to see ourselves in the once clear waters without being overcome with admiration for having dammed them. So God in her wisdom made our children in our image, an inescapable looking glass, which we are in the process of entering during the next decade as we become more and more fluent with texting just so we can, like, communicate with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jersea View Post
    Ugh, I thought I replied to this. Prince, you made me read it twice. I enjoyed pondering the notion of God as a comma.
    Thanks, Jersea - or should I say "My apologies" for making you read this twice?

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    To speak about God, a very convoluted subject with this air simplicity is not a joke but you made it hilariously beautiful. I really got absorbed. In fact we fashion ideas and make simple things unnecessarily and wordily very vast. All what we say philosophical at times is nothing but verbatim.

    This poem has indeed transcended all that.

    Of course at times to understand simple truth we use aide of difficult words and complicatedly long sentences. When we can see truth we borrow others' eyes.

    This poem goes all this.

    “Those who seek to satisfy the mind of man by hampering it with ceremonies and music and affecting charity and devotion have lost their original nature””

    “If water derives lucidity from stillness, how much more the faculties of the mind! The mind of the sage, being in repose, becomes the mirror of the universe, the speculum of all creation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qimissung View Post
    "It is the Sabbath of the sentence..." What a beautiful idea. The whole poem is extraordinary, Prince. I like all the things you write, but of them all, this is the one I would keep. And maybe I will.
    You may indeed keep it if you will, especially as I have kept one or two of my favourite poems by you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blazeofglory View Post
    To speak about God, a very convoluted subject with this air simplicity is not a joke but you made it hilariously beautiful. I really got absorbed. In fact we fashion ideas and make simple things unnecessarily and wordily very vast. All what we say philosophical at times is nothing but verbatim.

    This poem has indeed transcended all that.

    Of course at times to understand simple truth we use aide of difficult words and complicatedly long sentences. When we can see truth we borrow others' eyes.

    This poem goes all this.
    Many thanks, Blaze.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hack View Post
    Auntie,
    You wonder where it came from
    I wonder where it went
    And if it's truly there at all
    Was it heaven sent?

    There is a not so new hypothesis called the Grandmother Hypothesis. It speculates, among other things, that human culture grew out of the relatively long post-menopausal lifetimes of our grandmothers. The idea being that, older more experienced women in the home/workplace of early hunter-gatherers provided a competitive edge to those families. It is altogether possible that this phenomenon has a genetic (or epigenetic) component. I prefer to think of it as purely a function of love.
    When I first read about this hypothesis, I was reminded of my own grandmother. When she would tuck us in or say goodbye she always left us with a single word, "soft". I never knew exactly what it meant, but I did know how it felt. I like to think that it was passed down along thousands of generations from our one shared great-grandmother, and that it was an admonition about how we should treat one another.
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    In an aside, unlike God I have some difficulty with my commas, but then, the universe does not hinge on it.
    Good write, Sweet Prince, and "soft"
    I appear to have neglected responding to this and in doing so missed the chance to express my appreciation of your memories of your grandmother and to mention my love for my own maternal grandmother, with whom I spoke Yiddish, since she knew no English, and now whenever I have the opportunity to speak Yiddish with anyone, her presence is somehow there in those exchanges.

    Thank you.

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    Having come late to the forum and not having seen this before I feel compelled to throw in my two penneth:-

    I look upon the comma,
    Now what is it that I’m seeing?
    A stream of consciousness perhaps,
    Down a plughole, disappearing.

    A Comma too, is half a yang
    Or possibly a ying
    And if it represents our god
    Then it’s half of everything.

    As punctuation for our faith
    It’s really quite effective,
    Crucial though, the choice of font,
    Or the argument’s defective.

    As always, PM a stylish and thought-provoking piece and I have enjoyed pondering upon it and the subsequent posts in this strand. – Thanks,

    H

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkman View Post
    Having come late to the forum and not having seen this before I feel compelled to throw in my two penneth:-

    I look upon the comma,
    Now what is it that I’m seeing?
    A stream of consciousness perhaps,
    Down a plughole, disappearing.

    A Comma too, is half a yang
    Or possibly a ying
    And if it represents our god
    Then it’s half of everything.

    As punctuation for our faith
    It’s really quite effective,
    Crucial though, the choice of font,
    Or the argument’s defective.

    As always, PM a stylish and thought-provoking piece and I have enjoyed pondering upon it and the subsequent posts in this strand. – Thanks,

    H
    Not sure I understood the reference to the font, apart from which what a witty response. Thanks.

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