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    Hemingway drank a lot too.

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    The Good Soldier is a very good book. One of the best things about it was that I formed an impression of the characters and then the narrator would, quite naturally not in a staged for dramatic purposes way, reveal something about someone and your perceptions would shift then shift again. It truly and excellently highlights that you can think you know someone but how very often you never truly do and that you never truly can.

    Voivod30 belated Welcome to Litnet.I hope you enjoy the book

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    Cool Hemingway drank, but he never became publically intoxicated ....

    as Fitzgerald did. That is what Hemingway didn't like about Fitzgerald. Even Fitzgerald's lover, the English woman Sheilah Graham, recounts in her book about Fitzgerald, Beloved Infidel, how Fitzgerald's drinking wrought a pesonality change in him. This is portrayed also by Gregory Peck in the movie about Graham and Fitzgerald.

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    Hemingway hated on so many in Moveable Feast it's tough to keep track- even himself a bit, towards the end in his 'pilot fish' chapter where there's a strong sentiment of self-deprecation and he ends in a bit of a confessional.

    The bit on Fitzgerald's genitals was totally unnecessary (it's not a question of size but of 'angle'), but his public drunkeness was documented by others than Hemingway. Dostoevsky writes horribly, Fitzgerald is poorly endowed, Gertrude Stein looks like a Roman Emperor, Ford is stinky, Faulkner uses big words to fabricate big emotions...the few that escape the rath were T.S. Elliot, Ezra Pound, Tolstoy & Joyce, w/ the latter being the one he seemed to show the most reverence towards. In spite of his slights to Dostoevsky, he was pretty transparent w/ his appreciation of Russian literature. 'First, there were the Russians...' He probably owes more to Chekhov than any other writer.
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    Why symbolism? The stuff is pretty straightforward.

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    Voivod rules though, the thrash stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dfloyd View Post
    This is portrayed also by Gregory Peck in the movie about Graham and Fitzgerald.
    What film is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SunnySleepsLate View Post
    Voivod rules though, the thrash stuff.
    I love all Voivod but Dimension Hatross is by far my favorite album with Angel Rat being number two so I suppose I might disagree that just the trash stuff rules. Certainly Killing Technology is among one of the top thrash albums ever if not the best and RRROOOAAARRR is probably the most brutal thrash album I've heard to this day.

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    Cool

    The film about Fitzgerald and Graham has the same name as her book: Beloved Infidel. The film stars Gregory Peck as Scott Fitzgerald and Debora Kerr as Sheila Graham.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfloyd View Post
    The film about Fitzgerald and Graham has the same name as her book: Beloved Infidel. The film stars Gregory Peck as Scott Fitzgerald and Debora Kerr as Sheila Graham.
    The same director (Henry King) of Tender is the Night...he must have had a thing for Fitzgerald.
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    Peck looks nothing like Fitzgerald lol.

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    I just bought The Good Soldier, it's been on my TBR list forever. You guys have piqued my interest.
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