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    Ford Madox Ford

    I woulld greatly appreciate some opinions about The Good Soldier and the author in general. I really want to get into the catalogue of a previously unknow author (until now) in my little world. So far this is the only novel I'm aware of and I intend of course to Google his name but any suggestions on whether this book is a yay or nay and about his other work (if there is any) would be greatly appreciated.

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    The only book I have read by FMF is The Good Soldeir and I think it's one of the great modernist works. He is also known for a group of interconnected novels called Parade's End. You can read about them here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parade%27s_End.
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    It's interesting to note his relationship and advocation of Jean Rhys also, if you are looking for authors of less canonical representation. Her book, "Wide Sargasso Sea" is very interesting.

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    The Good Soldier is incredible. I have been less impressed with his other work so far. I read the first two books of the novels Virgil mentioned, Parade's End and was bored senseless. I'm not going to bother with the last one but there might be another gem in his catalog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Modest Proposal View Post
    It's interesting to note his relationship and advocation of Jean Rhys also, if you are looking for authors of less canonical representation. Her book, "Wide Sargasso Sea" is very interesting.
    Oh he was important in getting many writers started. He gave DH Lawrence his start.
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    I loved The Good Soldier as well. Once you're finished, I'd love to discuss some of the symbolism that Ford used that may have gone unnoticed by most. Or, if you don't mind, I'll post it now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeavesOfGrass View Post
    I loved The Good Soldier as well. Once you're finished, I'd love to discuss some of the symbolism that Ford used that may have gone unnoticed by most. Or, if you don't mind, I'll post it now.
    Absolutely feel free to post any thing you find interesting or relevant about this novel. I was kind of on the fence but I'm going to start reading the Soldier tonight or tomorrow. A discussion on symbolism would definitely be some thing I'd be into. There are very few people in rural Maine (at least in the town that I reside) who are willing to speak about such mattters. I actually joined this site a few weeks back so I could have at least one out let where I could express my opinions and other matters in the wonderful world of literature. Any way, yeah post away. The more information and opinions of others I can enjoy the better.

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    Great. Here goes: The story circles around two couples that see each other quite often over a span of many years, typically on vacation. Two of them are having an affair with one another, and this is kept secret for the most part. In the end, the husband whose wife was unfaithful, dies of "heart problems." This could be a long shot, but I'm rather certain that Ford was implying that he died of a broken heart, with the realization that his wife had betrayed him all those years. But Ford mentions his death in a nonchalant manner, so it is easy to overlook the symbolism of this gesture. It's quite touching really. Ford could have killed him off a million different ways, but he chose heart failure. I'll think of a few more examples, but this one stood out in my mind. It's these minor references that made Ford such a great writer.
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    It's been a real long time since I read the novel. But you have to keep in mind that the narrator is unreliable. There is no heart problem. Dowell is completely in the fog about his wife's affair. She says it's a heart problem and yes it's a romantic heart problem, not a medical heart problem as Dowell believes.
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    Hearts are a symbol used in The Good Soldier, though not extensively. I really liked The Good Soldier. I recommend reading 'Quartet', which has thinly-veiled Ford as a character.

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    Cool I have read The Good Soldier .....

    and fortunately it is not too long since I found it, as I do for most modernist novels, a bit boring. I don't know about Ford's wife having an affair, but Rhys was Ford's lover, Perhaps that's why Ford helped her out in her writing. Hemingway didn't care much for Ford. If memory serves me correct, Hemingway has a short section on Ford in A Moveable Feast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfloyd View Post
    If memory serves me correct, Hemingway has a short section on Ford in A Moveable Feast.
    he does. Hemingway presents him as a guy who did not bathe enough, drank heavily, so on. just based on that, Ford sounds interesting, and I probably want to read some of Ford's stuff just based on that

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    I read the book, and I must say, the repetition of the line, "This is the saddest story I have ever heard," was annoying, and the main character seemed a little clueless most the time. It wasn't too bad though, but I don't think I would ever read it again-the plot had something to be desired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keilj View Post
    he does. Hemingway presents him as a guy who did not bathe enough, drank heavily, so on. just based on that, Ford sounds interesting, and I probably want to read some of Ford's stuff just based on that
    Hemingway was mean about Fitzgerald too.

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    Cool Hemingway wasn't mean about Fitzgerald's writing ....

    He admired Fitzgerald's writing. He didn't like his drinking or his language puntuated by four-letter words. He couldn't understand how Fitzgerald could behave so abominably and write such a beautiful novel as Gatsby. One of life's paradoxes.

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