Haiku (俳句 haikai verse), is a form of Japanese poetry. haiku in English usually appear in three lines, to parallel the three metrical phrases of Japanese haiku..
My Hiaku Poem,
The moon...and darkness-
Iron fences-
Behind them I am..
My first Hiaku Poem
Haiku (俳句 haikai verse), is a form of Japanese poetry. haiku in English usually appear in three lines, to parallel the three metrical phrases of Japanese haiku..
My Hiaku Poem,
The moon...and darkness-
Iron fences-
Behind them I am..
You should join us in our Haiku games...
Les Miserables,
Volume 1, Fifth Book, Chapter 3
Remember this, my friends: there are no such things as bad plants or bad men. There are only bad cultivators.
It's a lovely Haiku. I also second JDC's rec.
"As far as we can discern, the sole purpose of human existence is to kindle a light of meaning in the darkness of mere being." --Carl Gustav Jung
"To absent friends, lost loves, old gods, and the season of mists; and may each and every one of us always give the devil his due." --Neil Gaiman; The Sandman Vol. 4: Season of Mists
"I'm on my way, from misery to happiness today. Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh" --The Proclaimers
Hi I'm new but I know haiku's and that doesn't sound like one its five syllables on the first live seven and back to five and you didn't spell haiku riteOriginally Posted by novlist*star*
From, ____
Puke on the conversation this invariably leads to. Every. Single. Time.
But Scout is right.
J
Last edited by Jack of Hearts; 12-29-2011 at 11:26 PM.
Haiku is spelled haiku, but the 5-7-5 thing is mostly the western interpretation of how one should be written. A haiku is short so it could be said in one breath, and this one fits that definition.
"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its' own reason for existing." ~ Albert Einstein
"Remember, no matter where you go, there you are." Buckaroo Bonzai "Some people say I done alright for a girl." Melanie Safka
My hair is also short - but it's not a haiku.
Why do posters keep trying to label their latest poem a haiku when it plainly is not?
It's so depressing (see JoH's comment above) - either research the haiku form properly (there's no excuse for getting it so wrong) or just call your short poem a short poem. Calling it a haiku doesn't suddenly elevate it into something more refined and enigmatic...
H
I've seen so many instances where people put words together that either contradict each other or just don't make sense. How does moon and darkness go together?
The thought is good, but do get your images straight. Seriously THINK harder next time.
Last edited by Haunted; 12-30-2011 at 01:38 PM.
"But do you really, seriously, Major Scobie," Dr. Sykes asked, "believe in hell?"
"In flames and torment?""Oh, yes, I do."
"That sort of hell wouldn't worry me," Fellowes said."Perhaps not quite that. They tell us it may be a permanent sense of loss."
"Perhaps you've never lost anything of importance," Scobie said.
Sorry, but it's not a haiku. Does a sonnet have fifteen lines? Thirteen lines? Enough said.
Dostoevsky gives me more than any scientist.
Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world. - Albert Einstein
this thread is rehashed
after nearly fifteen months
I sit, wondering.
Last edited by Delta40; 12-30-2011 at 07:04 PM.
Before sunlight can shine through a window, the blinds must be raised - American Proverb
Technicalities
Creativity cast down
A kind word is nice
Les Miserables,
Volume 1, Fifth Book, Chapter 3
Remember this, my friends: there are no such things as bad plants or bad men. There are only bad cultivators.
Here is a discussion of haiku:
http://www.ahapoetry.com/keirule.htm
Our use of 5-7-5 is acceptable, but somewhat dated idea.
Here is a brief exerpt from the article:
Thus there are more places where a Japanese phrase can be divided without disrupting its meaning. If English had the same degree of segmentation flexibility as Japanese, the following haiku,
across the arroyo
deep scars
of a joy ride
Keiko
can be rewritten to approximate the 3-5-3 form as
across the
arroyo, deep scars
of a joy ride
without affecting the meaning. As it is, doing so sacrifices too much in the flow of words and interferes with the image. Since Japanese haiku are written on one line, with no spacing between the segments, there is no danger of disrupting the flow in this manner. It is merely an artifact borne of the linguistic differences between the two languages and of the three-line convention of English haiku that makes the former appear as if it does not have a classic form. The type of unnatural line breaks seen in the latter is a problem associated with the 3-5-3 (or other short) form, whereas the 5-7-5 form is long enough to accommodate natural line breaks dictated by the English grammar, due to a greater degree of freedom provided by the extra syllables.
Thus we are in a bind, a catch twenty-two. If one wishes to have the brevity and the fragmented quality of Japanese haiku in English haiku, 17 syllables are too long. On the other hand, if a rigid structure is desired, 11 syllables are too short. One must choose between the two. The choice depends on which of the two factors a poet considers more important to haiku. The majority of contemporary English-haiku poets have let go of the tight forms in favor of brevity to develop the mainstream North American haiku.
I know Wikipedia is not really considered a trustworty reference, but this a very understandable article on the English Haiku:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku_in_English
and on the Janpanese Haiku:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku
And I will stop now.
As to whether novelis*star*'s work is a haiku, I'm not sure I'm qualified to say. Haiku can be a juxtaposition of images, and I think she has done that with her work. She is certainly a novice, but I have taken writing workshops where my work has been read by moderators and then simply handed back to me. My feeling is guidance is helpful, but let's go lightly, lightly. What springs from the heart should be honored.
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"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its' own reason for existing." ~ Albert Einstein
"Remember, no matter where you go, there you are." Buckaroo Bonzai "Some people say I done alright for a girl." Melanie Safka
Regardless of the syllable count (either English or Japanese) a traditional haiku should have a theme involving nature or a particular season and the verse should hinge on a pair of images (that are not generally described in so many words) with a pivotal line separating the two.
It's not enough to come up with 3 short lines and call the result a haiku - small wonder many Japanese poets despair of Western haikus.
H
PS - I'll also stop now
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