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    Quote Originally Posted by Jermac View Post
    It's amazing to me that such a wonderful and original poet as Wallace Stevens should be so relatively unknown and underrated.
    Jermac, he's not really unkonwn and not underrated. He's generally regarded as the top American poet of the 20th century. I agree though, he's not a household name.
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    That's why I included the word "relatively." Wallace Stevens generally doesn't really enter into a discussion of the great American poets of the twentieth century. Personally, I think he was one of the great American poets, but I dare say that if you took a hundred people who were even remotely interested in poetry and asked them who were the great American poets of the twentieth century, ten of them might include Wallace Stevens; ninety of them would not mention him.

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    Sadly you're right.
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    Wallace Stevens

    from Stevens, Collected Poetry & Prose
    from Uncollected Poems

    MANDOLIN AND LIQUEURS

    La-la! The cat is in the violets
    And the awnings are let down.
    The cat should not be where she is
    And the awnings are too brown,
    Emphatically so.

    If awnings were celeste and gay,
    Iris and orange, crimson and green,
    Blue and vermillion, purple and white,
    And not this tinsmith's galaxy,
    Things would be different.

    The sun is gold, the moon is silver.
    There must be a planet that is copper
    And in whose light the roses
    Would have a most singular appearance,
    Or nearly so.

    I love to sit and read the Telegraph,
    That vast confect of telegrams,
    And to find how much that really matters
    Does not really matter
    At all.

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    Wallace Stevens

    from Stevens, Collected Poetry & Prose
    from Transport to Summer

    DEBRIS OF LIFE AND MIND

    There is so little that is close and warm.
    It is as if we were never children.

    Sit in the room. It is true in the moonlight
    That it is as if we had never been young.

    We ought not to be awake. It is from this
    That a bright red woman will be rising

    And, standing in violent golds, will brush her hair.
    She will speak thoughtfully the words of a line.

    She will think about them not quite able to sing.
    Besides, when the sky is so blue, things sing themselves,

    Even for her, already for her. She will listen
    And feel that her color is a meditation,

    The most gay and yet not so gay as it was.
    Stay here. Speak of familiar things a while.

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    Ooh, I love those last sentences:
    ...She will listen
    And feel that her color is a meditation,

    The most gay and yet not so gay as it was.
    Stay here. Speak of familiar things a while.
    Hey Quasi. Nice to see you back.
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    Wallace Stevens

    from Stevens, Collected Poetry & Prose

    from Poems Added to Harmonium

    THE DEATH OF A SOLDIER

    Life contracts and death is expected,
    As in a season of autumn.
    The soldier falls.

    He does not become a three-days personage,
    Imposing hi separation,
    Calling for pomp.

    Death is absolute and without memorial,
    As in a season of autumn,
    When the wind stops,

    When the wind stops and, over the heavens,
    The clouds go, nevertheless,
    In their direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quasimodo1 View Post
    from Stevens, Collected Poetry & Prose

    from Poems Added to Harmonium

    THE DEATH OF A SOLDIER

    Life contracts and death is expected,
    As in a season of autumn.
    The soldier falls.

    He does not become a three-days personage,
    Imposing hi separation,
    Calling for pomp.

    Death is absolute and without memorial,
    As in a season of autumn,
    When the wind stops,

    When the wind stops and, over the heavens,
    The clouds go, nevertheless,
    In their direction.
    That's a great one! Thanks Quasi. I've never seen it before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgil View Post
    Jermac, he's not really unkonwn and not underrated. He's generally regarded as the top American poet of the 20th century. I agree though, he's not a household name.
    Well, I guess Stevens will eventually come to get the reputation and popularity he deserves, in part thanks to Mr. Bloom, who has been jeering at Eliot and Pound and Williams whenever he can (that knucklehead!)

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    Wallace Stevens

    from Stevens, Collected Poetry & Prose
    from Letters

    TO RONALD LANE LATIMER
    {November 26, 1935}

    Dear Mr. Latimer:
    The music of poetry which creates its own fictions is one of the "sisterhood of the living dead". It is a muse; all of the muses are of that sisterhood. But then I cannot say, at this distance of time, that I specifically meant the muses; this is just an explanation. I don't think that I meant anything definitely except all the things that live in memory and imagination.
    Titles with me are, of course, of the highest importance. Some years ago a student of Wesleyan came up to the office. Apparently he had been given the job of writing a paper on Harmonium. He was under the impression that there was no relation whatever between the titles and the poems. Possibly the relation is not as direct and as literal as it ought to be. Very often the title occurs to me before anything else occurs to me. This is not uncommon; I knew a man in New York who ought to know who once told me that many more people have written the first chapters of novels than have written the rest of them, and that still more people have given their novels titles without having given them any bodies.
    When you ask about a pattern of metaphors you are asking about the sort of thing with which one constantly experiments. For instance, I am very much afraid that what you like in my poetry is just the sort of thing that you ought not to like: say, its music or color. If that is true, then an appropriate experiment would be to write poetry without music and without color.* But so many of these experiments come to nothing. If they were highly successful, well and good, but they so rarely are.
    I suppose that the explanation for the bursts of freedom is nothing more than this: that when one is thinking one's way the pattern becomes small and complex, but when one has reached a point and finds it possible to move emotionally one goes ahead rapidly. One of the most difficult things in writing poetry is to know what one's subject is. Most people know what it is and do not write poetry, because they are so conscious of that one thing. One's subject is always poetry, or should be. But sometimes it becomes a little more definite and fluid, and then the thing goes ahead rapidly.
    Yours very truly, WS

    *In music, this would give you Schonberg.

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    Wallace Stevens

    from Stevens, Collected Poetry & Prose
    from The Rock

    THE IRISH CLIFFS OF MOHER

    Who is my father in this world, in this house,
    At the spirit's base?

    My father's father, his father's father, his--
    Shadows like winds

    Go back to a parent before thought, before speech,
    At the head of the past.

    They go to the cliffs of Moher rising out of the mist,
    Above the real,

    Rising out of present time and place, above
    The wet, green grass.

    This is not landscape, full of the somnambulations
    Of poetry

    And the sea. This is my father or, maybe,
    It is as he was,

    A likeness, one of the race of fathers: earth
    And sea and air.

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    I have an older book of Wallace Stevens around my house somewhere. I think it was from my college days. Anyway, I never took to his poetry until I read the ones presented here. Thanks for posting them, quasi. I really loved the last 3 or 4. I will have to read the whole thread. Some beautiful flowing poetry. I'm impressed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janine View Post
    I have an older book of Wallace Stevens around my house somewhere. I think it was from my college days. Anyway, I never took to his poetry until I read the ones presented here. Thanks for posting them, quasi. I really loved the last 3 or 4. I will have to read the whole thread. Some beautiful flowing poetry. I'm impressed!
    Janine, Stevens is a bit of an acquired taste. But once you see his art, you realize what a master he is.
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    Stevens, an acquired taste for sure, and some patience is required but he's not as inaccessible as some new readers might expect. "To name an object is to deprive a poem of three-fourths of its pleasure, which consists in a little-by-little guessing game; the ideal is to suggest."
    Wallace Stevens (1879 - 1955)

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    Wallace Stevens

    from Stevens, Collected Poetry & Prose
    from Transport to Summer

    HUMAN ARRANGEMENT

    Place-bound and time-bound in evening rain
    And bound by a sound which does not change,

    Except that it begins and ends,
    Begins again and ends again--

    Rain without change within or from
    Without. In this place and in this time

    And in this sound, which do not change,
    In which the rain is all one thing,

    In the sky, an imagined, wooden chair
    Is the clear-point of an edifice,

    Forced up from nothing, evening's chair,
    Blue-strutted curule, true-- unreal,

    The center of transformations that
    Transform for transformation's self,

    In a glitter that is a life, a gold
    That is a being, a will, a fate.

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