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    Hey Mrig, I have a tiny back and front yard and 2 yrs ago when we built our 13square unit, the council made us plant 150 trees (most indiginous plants) Out of all them, 8 died.

    That's not bad considering. However things are so strict here that if we didn't plant our trees, we were told we couldn't move in. A little tough I thought, but very good for the Earth. Not only that, they visited one year later to check the plants were still there. They didn't overlook the 8 plants that had died. Instead they suggested we replant them with any plant of our choice, but they must be replaced regardless. Which suited me, as I am a rose lover and will plant some thornless roses.

    I also have a tiny green house. (Will be planting lettuce plants this week) Love my salads.

    So I believe I am doing my little bit for the Earth.

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    HEy, Mary .....that's great infact I am delighted to hear that! Keep up the good work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrig View Post
    @Radha Krshna

    Would like to know your opnion on what I already posted earlier:


    Whatever we eat....lets us plant more trees..avoide using vehicles, plastic...save paper

    The Earth needs it!

    As far as the eating is concerned....even yoga recommends diet of fresh fruits and veggies ... and I have experienced the difference.....on the other hand .... if evryone eats veg ...we do not have enough food on this earth.... considering the reducing no of farmers and fertile farmlands

    I just wanted to introduce the love for all living creatures, especially animals because we and they both could feel the pain.

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    I do appreciate your intention. And you will be glad to know that I am a complete veg even no eggs!


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    Enter an apple, a rabbit and a baby into the bassinet. If the baby is eating the rabbit, then playing with the apple, then I'll buy you a new car ...


    I'm not sure what that's supposed to suggest - but try it with a baby, some chicken nuggets and a parsnip. I suspect under those circumstances you wouldn't offer a car if the kid decided to eat the nuggets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkBastable View Post
    Enter an apple, a rabbit and a baby into the bassinet. If the baby is eating the rabbit, then playing with the apple, then I'll buy you a new car ...


    I'm not sure what that's supposed to suggest - but try it with a baby, some chicken nuggets and a parsnip. I suspect under those circumstances you wouldn't offer a car if the kid decided to eat the nuggets.
    Quite.

    Even the most carniverous of us don't chow down on fluffy things that are still wriggling. I mean, I like my steak rare, but there are limits...
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    [QUOTE=Radha Krsna;815034]Is consumption of morphine was good for your body?
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    Well, it is one of the most highly utilized painkillers in the (western) medical profession, so I would take that as an indication that it isn't TOO terribly awful. I mean, they inject it directly into your bloodstream, so why would ingesting be any worse? There may be some chemical reactions I am overlooking, but it can't be any worse than the rest of the crap we put in our bodies like pesticides used to protect our fruits and veggies.
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    [B]I'm sorry, this thread originally in Religious Texts so I quote Veda text.[/B][/QUOTE]


    I see Rhada. No worries. It's certainly prompted lots of posts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkBastable View Post
    Enter an apple, a rabbit and a baby into the bassinet. If the baby is eating the rabbit, then playing with the apple, then I'll buy you a new car ...


    I'm not sure what that's supposed to suggest - but try it with a baby, some chicken nuggets and a parsnip. I suspect under those circumstances you wouldn't offer a car if the kid decided to eat the nuggets.
    Only the language of literature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radha Krsna View Post
    Only the language of literature.
    ...Huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radha Krsna View Post
    Only the language of literature.
    I'm sorry, but you initially attributed that quotation to Harvey Diamond - that really does not qualify it as the 'language of literature.'
    "I should only believe in a God that would know how to dance. And when I saw my devil, I found him serious, thorough, profound, solemn: he was the spirit of gravity- through him all things fall. Not by wrath, but by laughter, do we slay. Come, let us slay the spirit of gravity!" - Nietzsche

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokasenna View Post
    I'm sorry, but you initially attributed that quotation to Harvey Diamond - that really does not qualify it as the 'language of literature.'
    Oh, I thought that by 'language of literature' he meant that the proposition was a rhetorical device. (Though not a very robust one, which was what I was trying to demonstrate.)

    But maybe you're right - he means he's quoting a book. Not that I'd heard of Harvey Diamond - so I looked up his website which, perhaps unsurprisingly, extols Mr Diamond's virtues as a guru of health and beneficial diet.

    Mr Diamond makes great play of his common touch. "I don't write for doctors and scientists. I write for folks. You won't need a dictionary by your side in order to understand what you read."

    There are those of us who would interpret this as, "I have no real authority or qualifications, but I'm a pretty convincing salesman and I have very even teeth."

    At the bottom of the page, it says this:

    These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to treat, cure or prevent any disease. The information presented on this site is for educational purposes only; this information is not meant to be a substitute for the advice from your own physician or other healthcare provider.


    ..which is a bit of a giveaway really, isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkBastable View Post
    I'm not sure what that's supposed to suggest - but try it with a baby, some chicken nuggets and a parsnip. I suspect under those circumstances you wouldn't offer a car if the kid decided to eat the nuggets.
    Elucidate them on the matter and see if the little lieblings don’t reconsider – “Remember all those cute little chickens we fed at the zoo today? Well, now they’re feeding you!”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madame X View Post
    Elucidate them on the matter and see if the little lieblings don’t reconsider – “Remember all those cute little chickens we fed at the zoo today? Well, now they’re feeding you!”

    I think the point of the original proposition was that the baby - uninformed and innocent - would eat the apple, which would somehow demonstrate the 'natural' state of affairs, unclouded by the learned behaviours of blah-de-blah and so on and so forth.

    If we're to accept that as the proof of something, then my uninformed baby would demonstrate the natural human preference for chicken nuggets over raw parsnip.

    As it happens, following a visit to a farm, I did explain to my kids that the piglets they'd seen were destined to become sausages. The seven-year-old immediately demanded to become vegetarian, which we allowed. She got bored with it in about three days. The five-year-old was utterly unconcerned, and demanded a bacon sandwich as soon as she got home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkBastable View Post
    I think the point of the original proposition was that the baby - uninformed and innocent - would eat the apple, which would somehow demonstrate the 'natural' state of affairs, unclouded by the learned behaviours of blah-de-blah and so on and so forth.

    If we're to accept that as the proof of something, then my uninformed baby would demonstrate the natural human preference for chicken nuggets over raw parsnip.

    As it happens, following a visit to a farm, I did explain to my kids that the piglets they'd seen were destined to become sausages. The seven-year-old immediately demanded to become vegetarian, which we allowed. She got bored with it in about three days. The five-year-old was utterly unconcerned, and demanded a bacon sandwich as soon as she got home.
    Oh, I think we can agree that we aren’t born into this world with pure hearts and princely purpose. Meantime, I’m willing to bet most people’d be pretty upset about seeing, say, their neighbour beating his dog, or some farmer kicking the crap outta his cow on the side of the road, heck, some of these nice folk would probably even take steps to try and get these aggressive gentlemen to cease and desist from all such appalling behaviour, feel fairly good about themselves for ‘saving’ the day, tell all their friends about it…and then go home to their nice steak dinners as if it were the most consistent thing in all the world. I certainly don’t presume that not eating meat makes me some sort of angel, not by any means, but, go ahead and call me naďve (and, indeed, perhaps I am ), this type of moral capriciousness I tend to observe in the behaviour of others is nonetheless quite baffling to behold.

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