The Pros and Cons of Celibacy

[soundofmusic]

You're a sad, sad case.




Babysitting? Hell yeah, we could do with a babysitter. How are at you changing nappies? Still remember how to do it?

And now that I find that you took on a whole group of neighborhood blokes...Well, you know the whole "West Side Story" female thing...

After years of exposure to adults wearing nappies; I assure you a baby will be a cinch; but why don't we just leave the wife home with the kids, take off with Jocky, his twin and the bank earnings, pick up geralds free tickets to the bunny ranch and I'll drink tea with the ladies, get some tips on pole dancing and you can have a lap dance by a lady wearing an Anaconda and a pink Boa?

[QUOTE=Leannain;80957[/QUOTE]

And to think, I never thought I'd meet my soulmate

Now, I'm way past thirty; so I only want men for their intellect or body...And I can have their intellect without washing their dishes. We will have to discuss this professional relationship between you and your urologist; I don't trust men who hang out with people who spend all day shoving sharp instruments and rubber tubing up peoples penises.

Tesla: wasn't he the fellow that invented that hurricane device; tried to use it as a sex toy and sent the police down the street...Oh, never mind; I'm getting him confused with John Bobbit:

[The Atheist]

Thank you so much for schooling him Atheist. I don't think that I could have done it without exploding in rage and chucking my printer at my boyfriend's book case. Even though he is lying about basically everything that he said except for his own misogyny, I couldn't stand to read the words. His posts reminded me of that Polytechnique coward.

You just have to deconstruct little people like that. No doubt he'll toddle off and do the same thing somewhere else.

And now that I find that you took on a whole group of neighborhood blokes...Well, you know the whole "West Side Story" female thing...

Actually, I'm such a Philistine, I've never seen West Side Story.

After years of exposure to adults wearing nappies; I assure you a baby will be a cinch; but why don't we just leave the wife home with the kids, take off with Jocky, his twin and the bank earnings, pick up geralds free tickets to the bunny ranch and I'll drink tea with the ladies, get some tips on pole dancing and you can have a lap dance by a lady wearing an Anaconda and a pink Boa?

Crikey, I'd need a pacemaker to keep up.

Even better, we'll get jocky to babysit - he'll knock the kids out with some single malt and we can all go for a sing song at the local pub!

:Tesla: wasn't he the fellow that invented that hurricane device; tried to use it as a sex toy and sent the police down the street...Oh, never mind; I'm getting him confused with John Bobbit:

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[QUOTE=The Atheist;81054

Actually, I'm such a Philistine, I've never seen West Side Story.

Crikey, I'd need a pacemaker to keep up.

Even better, we'll get jocky to babysit - he'll knock the kids out with some single malt and we can all go for a sing song at the local pub!

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Really, I never saw West Side Story all the way through either; I did see the lead, George Chakiris in M Butterfly in london; he was incredible. I wrote him and told him how wonderful he was and he sent me a lovely card...Great guy!

Are you going to get one of those everstart pacemakers that keep you alive after you're dead...No kidding, they keep shocking you!

I like the idea of Jocky as babysitter; are you sure you really want to expose your wife to me...She's a innocent, beautiful young lady isn't she; she may faint dead away at my pub conversation

You never told the rest of your Scottish imitation story...maybe at the pub, huh?

[The Atheist]

Are you going to get one of those everstart pacemakers that keep you alive after you're dead...No kidding, they keep shocking you!

No dying for me - I'm going to be cloned.

I like the idea of Jocky as babysitter; are you sure you really want to expose your wife to me...She's a innocent, beautiful young lady isn't she; she may faint dead away at my pub conversation

Haha! She might be a bit of alright, but she's no lady and is very hard to shock.

You never told the rest of your Scottish imitation story...maybe at the pub, huh?

Sure!

[soundofmusic]

No dying for me - I'm going to be cloned.

Haha! She might be a bit of alright, but she's no lady and is very hard to shock.


Sure!

Well, clone an extra for me; Perhaps I have been just purchasing the wrong vintage...maybe the heartier, spicer New Zealand would have just the piquance I need...
I hear clones love you even when you're 85 and wrinkled Yeah, they don't fool me with all that stem cell stuff for parkinsons...they want to create a new race of love partners for the ever-aging, wealthy baby-boomers

[SleepyWitch]

I'm not picking on anyone, lass. This whole feminized world that makes men bend over to please and support women is what annoys me. Saddens me as well.

feminized world? last time I checked, the scenario you are describing was called the good old patriarchal world.

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feminized world? last time I checked, the scenario you are describing was called the good old patriarchal world.

Now folks, don't find fault; maybe he did have a bad experience the last time he bent over to please a ........woman
Now, if I were part of the great male sex; before I bent over to please a woman I would check: Does she have an adam's apple? Is she over 6 feet tall? Does she have razor burn on her back? Does she have a tatoo of a heart with "mama" on her arm?

[gbrekken]

now that I've finished laughing my arse off for the last hour-

where's george carlin when you need him to make short shrift of windbags-well done A-though you went to great lengths to do the right thing.

tickets to the ranch are not free. I told you I don't go there, in spite of the recommendation yesterday at the bar by a female real estate agent of their new york steak sandwich (true-but maybe she was yanking my chain about the sandwich-I'll never know, unless they hire me to keep drunks out-oops-rules me out)

the only benefit of my celibacy is that I retain faithfulness to myself ( a hopeless romantic I know). therefore there is no con to it. some things are more valuable, even though others may say it makes me inhumane to myself.

Bobbitt and Tesla in the same sentence? Wow. Bobbitt's still an a--. The bunnies loved him because of the notoriety. The only job he could get was as bouncer at one of Hoff's ranches. West side was a musical? no wonder I never saw it-didn't get the reference to the woman thing.

[The Atheist]

tickets to the ranch are not free. I told you I don't go there, in spite of the recommendation yesterday at the bar by a female real estate agent of their new york steak sandwich (true-but maybe she was yanking my chain about the sandwich-I'll never know, unless they hire me to keep drunks out-oops-rules me out)

Steak sandwiches are overrated.

Just one slice is always enough, then you can choose between plain or wholemeal.

[soundofmusic]

-didn't get the reference to the woman thing.

That's what I hate about all this subtle comedy...What was it about Bobbit; the lady's must have something for dating guys from Ripleys...

[martianwarrior]

what is the meaning of Life?

God is the Creator. Creation is the product of the Creator. that which is created from the Creator's Creation is all that is alive, Life. backtrack; God is no man. God is Love. the Creator is Love. all that is alive is created out of Love, from Love and in Love. the great creative energy is Love.

the meaning of Life is Love.


to me, this is quite literal and clear. i'm not saying everyone feels this way or that everyone should. however, knowing this in my heart and feeling it in the trenches of my soul has truly been one huge step in the process of becoming physically, emotionally, mentally and spiritually free.

recently i've begun thinking about celibacy and how my philosophy on the meaning of Life connects to it.

i haven't had sex in almost three years and i've only had sex with one girl a handful of times. during the previous two years or so, i was not having sex no because i didn't want to, but it also was not because of lack of opportunity. I was indifferent and at the same time i was not ever really into just hooking up. to me, sex is deeply spiritual in nature and in the act of doing so, much energy and information is exchanged. this can be a good or bad thing. also, just from my first experience, the girl i was with couldn't handle not being with me. she would lust after me so extremely and for me that was too much. she told all of her friends who were my friends too that my goods were "beautiful". i'll admit, this made my head a little big for a short time, but i didn't really do much with it expect feel proud of myself haha. the girls she shared our experience with subsequently wanted to be with me just as bad if not worse at times. most guys would think it would be totally cool to be in that position but for me, no. i felt like a piece of meat that was being bid on or something.

in the end, the "child" that was born in my ego and the reputation that suddenly surrounded me was spiritually unfulfilled. to be spiritually fulfilled in any relationship, sexual or not, friendships, family relations etc. is always my goal and something i constantly strive towards. doing so eventually leads to feel the need to disconnect myself from certain people and groups and is the reason why i don't see any of those people anymore. i don't really have friends anymore except for at work and i don't really chill with those people. i have even come to feel abandonment from my own family which i was adopted into.

after spending three years not having sex and slowly pushing my now ex-friends away from me, i feel more spiritual than ever. this is also due to changes in diet and lifestyle. i don't use drugs, smoke or drink anymore. i'm more active and i eat a 100% RAW diet. i'm pursuing astrology and mixed martial arts. i'll be signing up for ballet lessons in a few weeks. just doing everything i want to do with my life. i have to wonder though, if not deeply and intimately entangling myself with another being did or didn't have something to do with my new found happiness and feeling more grounded.

to clarify, my "celibacy" is only partial. i do masturbate, but not every day. sometimes i do a few days in a row. sometimes i don't a few months at a time. it's really random and sort of weird now that i think about it lol.

the thing that i'm struggling with, is the fact that there's this study that says DO IT! it's good for your health. there's another study that says to save your seed as it is a vital life force that you can use as energy. i guess there is no one way that is better for your health. having sex routinely keeps testosterone levels up and abstaining seems to promote more drive and overall energy. both make sense and are convincing.

i've been partially celibate for so long now and still don't feel the need to have sex, nor do i find myself being particularly lustful after any girls. i am attracted to certain females, but i usually find that that attraction is only skin deep and i just don't want that girl to be all over me. it's just uncomfortable. i feel like taking a shot a complete celibacy might be an interesting and potentially spiritually rewarding experience.


thoughts?...

[soundofmusic]

what is the meaning of Life?

God is the Creator. Creation is the product of the Creator. that which is created from the Creator's Creation is all that is alive, Life. backtrack; God is no man. God is Love. the Creator is Love. all that is alive is created out of Love, from Love and in Love. the great creative energy is Love.

the meaning of Life is Love.


to me, this is quite literal and clear. i'm not saying everyone feels this way or that everyone should. however, knowing this in my heart and feeling it in the trenches of my soul has truly been one huge step in the process of becoming physically, emotionally, mentally and spiritually free.

recently i've begun thinking about celibacy and how my philosophy on the meaning of Life connects to it.

i haven't had sex in almost three years and i've only had sex with one girl a handful of times. during the previous two years or so, i was not having sex no because i didn't want to, but it also was not because of lack of opportunity. I was indifferent and at the same time i was not ever really into just hooking up. to me, sex is deeply spiritual in nature and in the act of doing so, much energy and information is exchanged. this can be a good or bad thing. also, just from my first experience, the girl i was with couldn't handle not being with me. she would lust after me so extremely and for me that was too much. she told all of her friends who were my friends too that my goods were "beautiful". i'll admit, this made my head a little big for a short time, but i didn't really do much with it expect feel proud of myself haha. the girls she shared our experience with subsequently wanted to be with me just as bad if not worse at times. most guys would think it would be totally cool to be in that position but for me, no. i felt like a piece of meat that was being bid on or something.

in the end, the "child" that was born in my ego and the reputation that suddenly surrounded me was spiritually unfulfilled. to be spiritually fulfilled in any relationship, sexual or not, friendships, family relations etc. is always my goal and something i constantly strive towards. doing so eventually leads to feel the need to disconnect myself from certain people and groups and is the reason why i don't see any of those people anymore. i don't really have friends anymore except for at work and i don't really chill with those people. i have even come to feel abandonment from my own family which i was adopted into.


to clarify, my "celibacy" is only partial. i do masturbate, but not every day. sometimes i do a few days in a row. sometimes i don't a few months at a time.

i've been partially celibate for so long now and still don't feel the need to have sex, nor do i find myself being particularly lustful after any girls. i am attracted to certain females, but i usually find that that attraction is only skin deep and i just don't want that girl to be all over me. it's just uncomfortable. i feel like taking a shot a complete celibacy might be an interesting and potentially spiritually rewarding experience.


thoughts?...

I believe, Martain, that the spiritual involvement you seek with another human being will only occur when your other needs are met. Right now, you are trying to find yourself. The fact that you masturbate shows that you have a biological desire for sex. Be open to what your mind is telling you and don't make any assumptions about anything, at this time, is written in stone; sexual behavior is very adaptive...as are humans.

[martianwarrior]

I believe, Martain, that the spiritual involvement you seek with another human being will only occur when your other needs are met.

i agree with that, which is why i feel like i should abstain from sex and masturbation until that day comes. i think the only reason i masturbate is because it's something that i'm used to doing, it's just a normal part of life. if i would have had more sex when i was younger, i probably wouldn't even be thinking about celibacy. but, i used to smoke a lot of weed for like 4 or 5 years. eventually, i just stopped wanting to get high even though i was still doing it. and yes, i know, as you've said...

The fact that you masturbate shows that you have a biological desire for sex.

i partially agree with this... the fact that i masturbate, to me, shows more that my brain and body are used to feeling good from this act on a semi-regular basis, not that i want to have sex. if i just wanted some straight up and down(no pun intended) sex, no strings attached, i would have and could have done so by now. i only have a desire for the good feeling, not all of the complications that come along with having sex and i only have a desire for that good feeling because it is something that i'm used to. just like i was only smoking weed to feel good, happy and relieve stress, not because i liked coughing and having poor circulation etc.

when you have sex with someone, i know for me, it was hard to not think about that person and want that person. even when i meet someone who i'm physically attracted to, it's hard to not think about that person. i know some people enjoy that daydreaming mindset that having a lover gives you. i like making useful time of my mental activity. call me crazy...

Right now, you are trying to find yourself.

i can't really say that i'm "trying" to find myself. i'm just finding myself and lot of other things about the people who surround me. it's just happening. i know that sounds unlikely, but you don't have to believe that. it is, however, just the way it is. my spirituality has taken leaps and bounds in the past year and it has happened while not having sex and not really having much human contact at all outside of being at work. i spend a lot of time on my own and i am happier because of it. right now, my spirituality feels like it can't grow any stronger, which only means that it can and will as long as i continue to...

Be open to what your mind is telling you and don't make any assumptions about anything.

... and right now my mind is sort of hinting at celibacy. that's why i'm here, because my heart and mind is open. wide open. this is a decision that the Creator wants me to make on my own, decisively and distinctly. rarely do any of my spiritual advances come in the form of any sort of divine inspiration, although it does happen. usually, i receive hints in the form of my thoughts and feelings. so far so good.

[Dinkleberry2010]

We must practice celibacy in order to conserve our precious bodily fluids.

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... and right now my mind is sort of hinting at celibacy. that's why i'm here, because my heart and mind is open. wide open. this is a decision that the Creator wants me to make on my own, decisively and distinctly. rarely do any of my spiritual advances come in the form of any sort of divine inspiration, although it does happen. usually, i receive hints in the form of my thoughts and feelings. so far so good.

You've kind of lost me here Martian. Mind you, there are some who believe that the Creator is in all of our bedrooms when we masturbate; I hope not.
If you stopped masturbating, would you merely replace it with some other form of self gratification? I tend to think that at certain ages, our minds take us on a spiritual journey: we remember, we learn, we analyze things. Whatever age you are, this is what I think you are doing. I wouldn't put so much emphasis on the release of a few fluids; 15 minutes out of your day won't interfer that much with your life.

We must practice celibacy in order to conserve our precious bodily fluids.

Please enlighten us further Jermac; you left us with a broken parachute