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    Yes, just having a meal means all sorts of interactions, some for the better, some for the worse.

    (Feel free to make a joke about dinners with the in-laws...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by billl View Post
    Sorry, but you have edited the first post just today (just 3 minutes before this one). A discussion about vegetarianism has been going on. Why are you pointing back to a recently-edited first post? What did you change about the post? As I remember it, it also was about vegetarianism, and that has been the discussion so far.
    That's way I said...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stlukesguild View Post
    the rest of the world that already loves us so much.

    & they say Americans don't understand irony...
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    The Parent's fur ...

    On one day, the chicks lost their mother, they were in the yard only find the mother's fur-blooded, although the chicks call the parent till cry, but it was dead, and it's children did not realize it. They remained together maintaining the parent feathers. They are grieving and hope for the love their mother. Could this feeling is felt by humans?


    Albert Einstein: Food vegetarian left a beautiful depth impression in our culture. If the whole world adopts vegetarianism, it can change the fate of the world.

    Dr. Owens S. Parrett: The process of growing old and tired, accelerated by eating meat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgil View Post
    And today they let anything go to waste? Where did you get that? Any good business man uses every last scrap of resources for his benefit. Every inch of a cow is used, including grinding the bones down for bonemeal. I bet the native americans didn't use anywhere as much as modern industry does.
    They are so, so very wasteful. They throw out so, so much. They really do. Stuff that is finished, that can't be sold, that they made too much of, the list goes on and on. Restaurants and grocery stores and I don't know what else. America has such a surplus of foods and so much of it gets thrown out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red-Headed View Post
    Well, I was being a bit humorous. I think it's because he was teetotal. I don't trust people who don't drink alcohol.
    Teetotal? Man, I hate it when I come across words I don’t know (although you were gracious enough to clarify in the succeeding sentence ). Would that, perchance, be, primarily, a Briticism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NikolaiI View Post
    They are so, so very wasteful. They throw out so, so much. They really do. Stuff that is finished, that can't be sold, that they made too much of, the list goes on and on. Restaurants and grocery stores and I don't know what else. America has such a surplus of foods and so much of it gets thrown out.
    Did you ever hear of hambuger and hot dogs? It all get ground up, every last bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delta40 View Post
    In 1954 a radio jingle “Happy Little Vegemites” promoting it to children boosted sales enormously creating a generation of children that loved it.
    Happy Little Vegemites sounds like the good-guy version of Nasty Little Termites in a little play called Mighty Mites. Then there's dustmites, thread-footed mites, Sarcoptic Mange mites which burrow under the skin. Honestly, no matter how nutritious, I wouldn't eat anything with the word "mites" in it.

    Sorry Delta, I'm teasing at your expense but mean no offense. The thread got contentious at times, so I'm just instilling some humor to loosen everyone up. I'm sure vegemites is lovely.

    It's nice to have a doctor in the house, ClassicCharm. Thanks for debunking the food myths — right from the horse's mouth.

    I love seafood and I like meat but don't eat much of it. I found that my house recipes for vegetable-based salads work very well for my cholesterol and weight control.

    avocado, white corn, chick peas (ginger mango vinaigrette). I use white corn to get a wide color range.

    spinach, walnuts, dried cranberries, or I substitute walnuts with the reddish honey roasted turkey for a rich green-red color (raspberry vinaigrette)

    bruschetta — I throw in pearl onions and capers. I add mozzarella cheese or some grilled chicken, then drown it in balsamic vinaigrette. mmmm!

    eggplant parmesean

    I emphasize a colorful presentation that triggers appetite for vegetables. This way I wouldn't miss meat that much. But I do eat meat, it makes you feel fuller and get you to eat less, which is good for weight loss and it's the principle behind the Atkin's diet.


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    On a more serious note, the thought of livestock slaughter bothers me to no end, but humans are omnivorous and the best nutrients come directly from food, not artificial supplements.

    Then I have major issues with animal testing. But I won't go into it since this is a vegetarian thread. But I must say though, the OP is a vegetarian propaganda and I don't appreciate it. I also don't appreciate casting people who consume meat as killers. To me it seems out of line.

    "But do you really, seriously, Major Scobie," Dr. Sykes asked, "believe in hell?"
    "Oh, yes, I do."
    "In flames and torment?"
    "Perhaps not quite that. They tell us it may be a permanent sense of loss."
    "That sort of hell wouldn't worry me," Fellowes said.
    "Perhaps you've never lost anything of importance," Scobie said.

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    My own quasi-vegetarianism is not based on political or ethical concerns (so much) as wanting to pattern my life on the virtue of simplicity. Fruits, vegetables, nuts, grains are lower on the food chain, simpler to produce, and consume (no cooking needed). To me there is a certain poetry to a simple diet that I admire.

    Of course, I do eat meat -- all sorts of it -- but, simply, not as much as most in my culture.

    My focus on a vegetarian-oriented diet really came from reading about what these two cowboys took on an all-day hunting trip: 2 cans of tomatoes, 2 cans of black beans. I read this and was amazed. Of course, their simple vegetarian diet was driven mostly by necessity: they could only afford the cheapest food. But that a rugged day of work and recreation could be supported by $1.50s worth of humble vegetables still strikes a chord with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Comedian View Post
    My focus on a vegetarian-oriented diet really came from reading about what these two cowboys took on an all-day hunting trip: 2 cans of tomatoes, 2 cans of black beans. I read this and was amazed. Of course, their simple vegetarian diet was driven mostly by necessity: they could only afford the cheapest food. But that a rugged day of work and recreation could be supported by $1.50s worth of humble vegetables still strikes a chord with me.
    It makes me wonder whether or not they survived on the nutrition itself or if they were too sick to their stomachs to want to eat. And I wonder if they were still hungry at the end of the day? I certainly would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madame X View Post
    Teetotal? Man, I hate it when I come across words I don’t know (although you were gracious enough to clarify in the succeeding sentence ). Would that, perchance, be, primarily, a Briticism?
    Sorry, I thought teetotal was widespread as an English word. I try to refrain from using any Mercian/Midlands dialect words on the boards.

    You should have a butcher's hook at the dictionary definition, I mean, would you Adam & Eve it that someone wouldn't know what teetotal means? (with apologies to all Cockneys)
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    I thought it was a pretty widespread word too. Although, Canada retains a few more Briticisms than the USA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skib View Post
    It makes me wonder whether or not they survived on the nutrition itself or if they were too sick to their stomachs to want to eat. And I wonder if they were still hungry at the end of the day? I certainly would be.
    LMAO! Good one.
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    If you've been away from the meat (or just the calories and fat), then it would probably be plenty to make one full. (Depends on the size of the cans). It also depends on the size of the person. Black beans are great, a decent source of protein and calories.

    It reminds me of when I moved to Japan. For a couple weeks, I couldn't believe how little was served when I ordered at restaurants, and I ended up hungry a lot (and, by the way, there was always meat involved). Then I got used to it, and actually found it hard to finish the over-sized Denny's breakfast I ordered on a trip back to the States. In the U.S., there is an emphasis on selling lots of food, (and driving down the price). Freshness and nutritional value aren't as important (neither are the animals), and people are conditioned to overeat. Maybe not everyone falls for it (like Haunted), but a lot of people obviously do. Including me--I can eat quite a few potato chips once I get started...

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    I can't even consider eating less- much less less meat. For someone who metabolizes things approx. 3 times faster than a normal person, I have to either eat massive portions two to three times a day, or else I end up eating five or six normal sized meals a day. I can't even eat fast food because the meals aren't big enough. (keep in mind I'm six feet tall and I weigh between 145-150 depending on how much I've eaten. Seriously, that's no exaggeration.) My ranch cook told me last summer that whenever he factored me into a meal, he counted me as three people. The thought of cutting that necessary protein from my diet is almost painful.

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