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    Quote Originally Posted by Scheherazade View Post
    Is it safe to assume that this is the advice you give to your own children?


    My greatest fear is that she will figure it out for herself! I keep showing her brochures for nunneries but her heart seems set on university ...sigh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael T View Post
    My greatest fear is that she will figure it out for herself! I keep showing her brochures for nunneries but her heart seems set on university ...sigh!
    Well, all the better then; nothing worse than a nun who has discovered the joys of an active sex life...except, maybe a priest who has discovered an active sex life; people follow them to Italy for a shot on the beach

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofmusic View Post
    Well, all the better then; nothing worse than a nun who has discovered the joys of an active sex life...except, maybe a priest who has discovered an active sex life; people follow them to Italy for a shot on the beach
    What you said is tru

    “Those who seek to satisfy the mind of man by hampering it with ceremonies and music and affecting charity and devotion have lost their original nature””

    “If water derives lucidity from stillness, how much more the faculties of the mind! The mind of the sage, being in repose, becomes the mirror of the universe, the speculum of all creation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blazeofglory View Post
    What you said is tru
    Yes, it is interesting, isn't it Blaze. People hover in corners to talk about sexually active nuns and shout priests indescretions from the rooftops.

    I'm never sure why people are so surprised when they see high-profile religious people being indiscriminate. It's difficult to keep a spiritual focus when your path is constantly littered with praise, women, and gold coins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofmusic View Post
    It's difficult to keep a spiritual focus when your path is constantly littered with praise, women, and gold coins.


    Oh, I dunno. You get used to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkBastable View Post
    Oh, I dunno. You get used to it.
    Tell us more, Mark. Are you one of the modest few who manage to feed the frenzied flocks, stave off the worshiping women and return the gold to the poor?

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    'a shot on the beach'! Love it! Smoke of the holy love gun Batman!

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    Celibacy is possible only when you restrain your mind and you do it with a rope the way a rider reins in on its transport. In the Upanishads, there is a beautiful comparison. The mind is like a pair of horses dragging a chariot and the driver is the conscience and the soul is the charioteer. And if the bridle is strong you can control your horses, that is, your desires and you cannot control them always. The horses of your desires are bound to look else where and you cannot control them however much you whip them

    “Those who seek to satisfy the mind of man by hampering it with ceremonies and music and affecting charity and devotion have lost their original nature””

    “If water derives lucidity from stillness, how much more the faculties of the mind! The mind of the sage, being in repose, becomes the mirror of the universe, the speculum of all creation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blazeofglory View Post
    Celibacy is possible only when you restrain your mind and you do it with a rope the way a rider reins in on its transport. In the Upanishads, there is a beautiful comparison. The mind is like a pair of horses dragging a chariot and the driver is the conscience and the soul is the charioteer. And if the bridle is strong you can control your horses, that is, your desires and you cannot control them always. The horses of your desires are bound to look else where and you cannot control them however much you whip them
    Lovely analogy, Blaze

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    My question would be why would anyone choose celibacy? I can see it being forced upon someone, as in the illness or death of a partner, but I just can't see waking up one morning and deciding that "I'm not going to have sex for next day/week/month/year." Why would someone make that decision?
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    It's quite comon in some cultures to make such a decision but in ours (Nuns and RC priests excepted) it is more likely to be forced on us by widowhood.

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    When most people are talking about sex; are they talking about having a relationship? Would you find sex necessary without a relationship? While I am an older widow, the possiblility of "sex" knocks on every door. There are sex toys, computer dating sites, young people and divorced parents who consider me desirable because I am "settled"; I simply don't find any of these a decent subsitute for "chemistry with someone".
    What are your thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofmusic View Post
    When most people are talking about sex; are they talking about having a relationship?
    In the perfect world, sex has no strings attached and relationships are optional.



    Would you find sex necessary without a relationship?
    Now, in the not so perfect world, sex is a neccessity, much like the TV remote.

    "But do you really, seriously, Major Scobie," Dr. Sykes asked, "believe in hell?"
    "Oh, yes, I do."
    "In flames and torment?"
    "Perhaps not quite that. They tell us it may be a permanent sense of loss."
    "That sort of hell wouldn't worry me," Fellowes said.
    "Perhaps you've never lost anything of importance," Scobie said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haunted View Post
    In the perfect world, sex has no strings attached and relationships are optional.

    Don't you think that people always gravitate towards a relationship; if only to control when the other leaves?

    Now, in the not so perfect world, sex is a neccessity, much like the TV remote.
    Love the analogy; what I like abouth the TV remotes is that they are universal, so they work on all tvs and get every channel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Haunted View Post
    In the perfect world, sex has no strings attached and relationships are optional.
    Now, in the not so perfect world, sex is a neccessity, much like the TV remote.
    Don't you think that people gravitate toward relationships, if only to control when the other leaves?

    I like the remote analogy; I like remotes, they are universal, so you can use them on any tv and control all the channels at the same time

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofmusic View Post
    Don't you think that people gravitate toward relationships, if only to control when the other leaves?
    Nay. Relationship means commitment, and commitment is a very scary word.

    I like the remote analogy; I like remotes, they are universal, so you can use them on any tv and control all the channels at the same time
    I don't have a universal remote — never attracted to the idea of having just one device, and so I shall remain a multiple-remote person. I guess that'd make you a remote control freak, and me, a polygamist of remotes

    "But do you really, seriously, Major Scobie," Dr. Sykes asked, "believe in hell?"
    "Oh, yes, I do."
    "In flames and torment?"
    "Perhaps not quite that. They tell us it may be a permanent sense of loss."
    "That sort of hell wouldn't worry me," Fellowes said.
    "Perhaps you've never lost anything of importance," Scobie said.

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