Not another vampire movie!!!!!

[rimbaud]

I just watched a previews on TV about the upcoming movies, and out of 6-7. 2 were about... you guessed it- Vampires.
and they weren't even promising, the 2 movies were:
Jenifer's body, with that chick from Transformers, Fox, or Morgan, what's her name, and Cirque du Freak: The Vampire's Assistant some lame *** based-on-series kind of thing, with some good actors, which surprised me: John C. Reilly and Salma Hayek, and I don't understand: why do actors like that do movies like THAT!

And more importantly: stop making Vampire movies! there is something as too much.

and parents worry about children watching movies like Kill Bill, which are so-called violent or something, but they should be conserned about kids watching lame movies like Jenifer's body or Twilight. I remember reading somewhere that 9 year old girl came to Robert Pattinson and told him: bite me, please! :S

the generation is getting dumber
and the reason is:
watching High School Musical, listening to Hanna Montana and having Twilight for a favorite book

[DanielBenoit]

Lol, I understand. It just seems that Hannah Montana, High School Musical and vampires is the thing, tommorrow it will be something different.

I find it rather amusing; how Hollywood, when it sees an incoming trend, that it just grabs it and produces ten movies concerning it before the year is out.

[rimbaud]

amusing? I find it annoying!

I also heard this on some sitcom "Hannah Montana is the Madona of our generation"

[*Classic*Charm*]

Eek I see this turning into another argument about Twilight. Ack.

Unfortunatley, Rimbaud, this is how it works! Popular culture moves through phases. A novel or a film gains popularity and suddenly the market is flooded with that subject matter. It happened with Harry Potter- suddenly there was a surge of book series about wizards and magic and alternative worlds. Not long ago there was a rise in popularity in Jane Austen, and we're overwhlemed with spin-off novels ("Mr Darcy Takes a Wife" etc.) and even The Jane Austen Book Club, with it's associated film as well as others like Becoming Jane.

This is just how it goes- if consumers are buying into something, producers are going to give it to them. By the bushel. It will fade out eventually, only to be replaced by something else.

[rimbaud]

I know but Vampires- really? they were cool in The Interview with the Vampire in the 90s
it's a little early for them to be making a comeback, and if they do, make it a good one, just because it's Hollywood it doesn't have to be trash
there is something worthy in Pop Culture, or at least it used to be

[*Classic*Charm*]

I know but Vampires- really? they were cool in The Interview with the Vampire in the 90s
it's a little early for them to be making a comeback, and if they do, make it a good one, just because it's Hollywood it doesn't have to be trash
there is something worthy in Pop Culture, or at least it used to be

Vampire lore has been around for a very long time. Interest in them stems from way further back than Interview with a Vampire (To be honest, I have a friend with a Vampire fetish which started long before they became "popular again"). Just because something is not a part of mainstream culture for a while doesn't mean that it hasn't retained it's value for certain sects of people. While you say "Vampires- really?", there may equally have been people saying "Jane Austen- again?". What would you suggest as something more legitimate to become popular again? (and I mean that genuinely, not sarcastically).

And really, who's to determine what is a "good comeback"? Is the re-manifestation of leggings really the best comeback for 80's fashion? I'd say they're pretty unflattering on everyone, but who am I to say that it's not a "good comeback". I'm not saying that you don't know what "good" is, purely that the value of a resurgence in popularity of something or other is purely up to the discretion of the consumer.

[rimbaud]

And really, who's to determine what is a "good comeback"?

we are! who else?
I do like vampires, the stories about them, I like reading about them too, but here I'm talking about all the Vampire movies that came and are still coming out
the box office is full of them, and it's been a long time since a good Vampire movie.
I mean, come on in Twilight both Robert and the other one jacob didn't put a shirt on for the whole movie, and Jenifer's body- megan fox- need I say more!
in Interview with the vampire, yes, we had Brad Pit and Tom Cruz but at least they had their clothes on.

[DanielBenoit]

I mean, come on in Twilight both Robert and the other one jacob didn't put a shirt on for the whole movie, and Jenifer's body- megan fox- need I say more!
in Interview with the vampire, yes, we had Brad Pit and Tom Cruz but at least they had their clothes on.

Come'on, how else are you going to get all of the preteen girls to sit through the whole movie?

[*Classic*Charm*]

we are! who else?
I do like vampires, the stories about them, I like reading about them too, but here I'm talking about all the Vampire movies that came and are still coming out
the box office is full of them, and it's been a long time since a good Vampire movie.
I mean, come on in Twilight both Robert and the other one jacob didn't put a shirt on for the whole movie, and Jenifer's body- megan fox- need I say more!
in Interview with the vampire, yes, we had Brad Pit and Tom Cruz but at least they had their clothes on.

Yes, that's my point. The general public, the consumers, are who decides what makes a good comeback, and some individuals may disagree. Doesn't make the production of these things any less viable. Twilight was a one-off and the public said they wanted more. So they're getting what they asked for. You disagree. The "We" you're speaking of is getting what they want. So they have in fact decided that the novels and films being released are a good comeback. The fact that vampire movies are still coming out supports my point here.

The fact that the actors in the films don't have shirts on is irrelevant to the fact that consumers want Vampire lore right now. If they just wanted shirtless men, they could go see something else, I'm sure it happens in other films as well. It's the whole package they want.

[rimbaud]

The "We" you're speaking of is getting what they want.

the "We" that I'm talking about is me, and all that stand before me! it may sounds egocentric or whatever but I don't care, it's the way it is. who cares about most of the youth who wants to see shirtless vampires and listen to Hannah Montana, they all go along with the stream!
besides, as it turns out, they don't know any better

the fact that the public wants to see that, doesn't make it OK for film industries to be butchering the art of the movie.

and if we were all listening to the majority we would be nowhere now

I am aware what sells, but that doesn't stops me to rebel against it

[Mathor]

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the fact that the public wants to see that, doesn't make it OK for film industries to be butchering the art of the movie.

I think the art of the movie is a pretty subjective term. For instance, Jennifer's Body was produced and written by Jason Reitman, the person who directed Juno (his only film as of yet). I personally thought that Juno was an outstanding film. For that reason, it's very possible that Jennifer's Body may be more than the worst film ever made. I'm sure it's not a great movie (I haven't seen it), but not all too terrible. If not for instances like this, you'd never have any surprises when you find movies that are better than you thought they'd be.

[*Classic*Charm*]

The "We" you're speaking of is getting what they want.

the "We" that I'm talking about is me, and all that stand before me! it may sounds egocentric or whatever but I don't care, it's the way it is. who cares about most of the youth who wants to see shirtless vampires and listen to Hannah Montana, they all go along with the stream!
besides, as it turns out, they don't know any better

Please tell me you're not actually saying that yourself and only yourself as an individual should be deciding what is being produced and published. Sounds a touch totalitarian to me Do you really think that if the film industry only started making films you like and books were only published of the type you enjoy, everyone would be happy?

All that stand before you are the GENERAL PUBLIC. Those who are buying the books and viewing the films! That first sentence is contradictory.

the fact that the public wants to see that, doesn't make it OK for film industries to be butchering the art of the movie.

and if we were all listening to the majority we would be nowhere now

I am aware what sells, but that doesn't stops me to rebel against it

You think that Twilight is the first evidence of film butchery?! It's been going on for years! The division between a blockbuster movie produced to distract and entertain the masses and a film crafted to be a piece of art was established so, so long ago. To say that there is only one category of "movie-making" is not fair, and if you're looking for art in your local 24-screen theatre, you're not likely going to find it there.

The fact that the public wants it makes it perfectly acceptable. Whether or not people choose to watch it is up to them and what they hope to achieve by going to see it. No one claimed that Twilight was the be-all and end-all of films.

I'm not telling you to stop rebelling against the majority, certainly not! I'm just saying that to say that this type of film doesn't have its purpose, and that ignoring what is desired by the majority will somehow be beneficial to society is naive (and I mean that with no offense whatsoever!). Of course we listen to the majority- that's what democracy is! And yes, that does apply to the film industry!

[rimbaud]

Even if it has been going on for years, that still doesn't make it OK

And I really don't care how it sounds, bad movies are just... BAD!

and it's not only my taste or only me that decides, but when we are just giving the majority what they want and not moving forward, not taking risks, everything goes down.

and that's the thing with this part of the pop culture! It's not like any good movies are being released, but most of them are released for people who don't even like movies, they don't! take a film appreciator, a true one, doesn't matter if his taste in movies is like mine, and make him sit through one of the twilight sequels, or any other like it for that matter

the thing is: they are playing it safe, they are making movies, music and write books for someone who just wants to waste time
is not only that they don't make any progress, but they are going backwards!

[DanielBenoit]

I suppose we all have are particularities on who or what we hate in Hollywood today. As for me, I really cannot stand Michael Bay or his films, every time I see a commercial for Transformers, it makes me want to puke.

[NickAdams]

I suppose we all have are particularities on who or what we hate in Hollywood today. As for me, I really cannot stand Michael Bay or his films, every time I see a commercial for Transformers, it makes me want to puke.

As long as I have access to the films that I enjoy, than they can have their vampires and Transfats. I can't stand Hollywood's use of cinéma vérité, and the constant use of camera pushes and rotations.