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    (I watched Goodbye Lenin! again a couple of days ago. I love that movie. It's motivated me to learn German... but I'll probably give up soon. Anyway, great movie.)/10

    There was some other movie on yesterday that was really cool but I don't know what it was called. It was a silent movie with this girl named Mimi and this playwright. It had some strangely amazing piano music. That's why I watched it. It was like post rock-ish. I don't know. It made me want to make a silent movie to play music to. lol, but I'll probably give up on that too.

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    The Barber of Siberia

    Its an old moviie, quite long, if you've not seen it I would strongly recommend it, having said that i do believe some people will feel suicidal 15mins into the movie, its not everyoes cup of tea but i thought it was fantastic storyline, setting, characters and the ending....beautiful.

    8.5/10 (because it had some russian which I couldn't understand and which would have added meaning to the play but you could get the gist from the actions etc.)
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    The last one I saw was Jimmy and Judy and not one of the best I have ever seen, but it was still a good movie.

    /In the Kentucky suburbs of Cincinnati, social misfit Jimmy Wright always has his video camera - at his psychiatrist's, spying on his parents in their bedroom, and watching high-school senior, Judy Oaks-Kellen. He rescues Judy from a teacher and students who tease and torment her, and showing her his video tape of revenge kick-starts their friendship, which is soon in an overdrive of romance, sex, and pleasure. Jimmy is in and out of mental institutions, and before long, he and Judy are on the run. Cocaine, guns, and a commune of other misfits figure in their flight. How far can their love take them? It's all on video./
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    This is a bit premature, but I'm going tonight to see Where the Wild Things Are...book by Maurice Sendak. I can't wait. It got very good reviews, except they say it's not for little kids. I'll let you know how is was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynne50 View Post
    This is a bit premature, but I'm going tonight to see Where the Wild Things Are...book by Maurice Sendak. I can't wait. It got very good reviews, except they say it's not for little kids. I'll let you know how is was.
    Lynne, that is so funny you should mention this today. I was just thinking, about a hour ago, of buying the book for my grand-daughter, knowing my son loved it as a kid. I didn't even know about the movie. Let me know how it goes; if you liked it. Sounds more adult but interesting.
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    Hmmm...Lets see...What was it...? Oh! Black Snake Moan! Samuel L. Jackson, Christina Ricci, and Justin Timberlake. I liked it. But I wish they had played a little more blues in it though. Man, I love 'em blues. 5 STARS!!!
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    Michael Bay + Film Camera = Hell on Earth

    Pearl Harbor- Throughout the history of cinema there have been films that have been leagues ahead of there time. Take the war genre; ever seen the Japanese film Fires on the Plane? Light years ahead of its time, made in 1959 and it was the first film to ever deal with cannibalism among soldiers. How about Apocalypse Now or Come and See, whose level of intensity reached and sometimes surpassed Speilberg's Saving Private Ryan, made thirty years later. All of the above mentioned films are films that took daring steps in dealing and presenting certain issues. they were masterpieces far far ahead of there time and are still effective today. Pearl Harbor is not one of these films. As a matter of fact it is a step back in film history. It returns to truly ancient cliches about war and makes the one-dimensionality of the symbolic hero's in Eisenstein's Battleship Potemkin look like creations of Shakespeare, it's that bad. Who else but Michael Bay would make the 'bold' move of casting Ben Affleck, Josh Harnett and Kate Beckensale in a frickin' love triangle on the eve of the attack on Pearl Harbor? Who else but Michael Bay would find the inclusion of smoking and drinking to be too controversial despite the well-known historical fact that practically every single person living in 1941 drank and smoked. Who else would have such a ****ty script that one cringes every single time an actor opens his or her mouth?

    Why is it that I feel like I'm watching some typical Hollywood propaganda film from the 40s'? I'm by no means criticizing films like Tora!Tora!Tora! or The Guns of the Navorone which are better films than this one by leaps and bounds, but merely pointing out the cliches that have become associated with that era of film history, to be found in a film made in 2001! Did Michael Bay ever once watch Tora! Tora! Tora! or The Guns of the Navorone while making this film? How about Apocalypse Now or Saving Private Ryan. One would think that such a prominent director such as Michael Bay, who is directing a big-budget film on a deeply tragic day in American history, that he would be familiar with what has already been accomplished. But no, he takes the easy was out and makes a film that would receive boos from audiences if released sixty years ago! This is a pitifully empty film with nothing in it but simulations of recycled war film cliches and is an insult to bold directors such a Francis Ford Coppla and bold filmmaking in general. It is an insult to the hero's of December 7, for the film spends well over two hours focusing on a stupid and predictable love triangle between three characters, with the remaining hour spend on special effects and explosions.

    I suppose the most depressing thing about this whole film is the fact that audiences weren't outraged when it came out. Why didn't anybody yell out in the theater “I am smarter than this!” and walk out to see the redux restoration version of Apocalypse Now playing the same time Pearl Harbor came out. But no, despite the fact that it was lauded by critics, it made $499 million at the box office.

    I once asked my sister what her favorite movie was and she answered Pearl Harbor. About a week before we had watched Apocalypse Now and she had walked out within thirty minutes, complaining that it was too boring and long, and plus it was old. Okay yes, Apocalypse Now was made in 1979, if you call that old, then I'm fine with that. It is a long movie, but probably only a little longer then the agony of Pearl Harbor. As for boring. . . .I just can't comprehend. Apocalypse Now is probably the most intense and disturbing war films I've ever seen. As its narrative progresses, you further and further feel like that you are falling into madness along with its characters. Pearl Harbor isn't worth a second of Apocalypse Now. 1.5/10



    Transformers 2 - And if that couldn't get any worse, I must recall the hellish experience of seeing Transformers 2 in the theater with my sister. If there is any reason why you should see this movie, it should only be for an extremely altruistic reason, and even then you'll feel disgusted with yourself.

    My step-sister was not feeling good at all (her boyfriend had just dumped her) and she wanted to get out of the house and go watch some mindless movie (as she admitted herself). I had remembered how much I hated the first one, but felt too much of an obligation to make her feel better.

    So we went into the theater. I had gotten a big Reese's Peanut Butter Cup, which was probably the highlight of the entire experience and is the only thing I wish to remember.

    The lights went down and the projector started. Immediately there was noise, and this noise progressed more and more to unbearable measures as the film went on for two-and a half hours.

    It was the most meaningless use of the film camera I had ever seen. It was an insult to the special effects people who had spend hours creating every single frame of CGI motion, only for them to be set to a nonsense story with nonsense characters and nonsense robots.

    I remember looking around the theater (with a pounding headache) and counting how many people had yet walked out. None had. There were quite a few ten year olds who seemed to be enjoying it immensely, and then I realized that this film was a ten year olds dream. I myself remember being eight or nine and playing with Legos, spinning together outrageously epic plots with outrageously extreme special effects. I suppose I can remember creating robot battles similar to what one sees in Transformers when I was eight. But that's what Legos are for, and, why not just make Transformers a PG rated kids film? But instead we get a violent two-and a half hour commercial with racist undertones and tons of sexual innuendo in the Megan Fox character, who is misogynistically portrayed by Bay as a sex object and nothing else, even though Fox is such a bad actress that there is not much that can be done with her as an actress.

    Upon leaving the theater, after sitting through it for the full two-and a half hours I had felt like a good person, but I felt utterly miserable for having wasted two hours of my life, along with twenty other people, when we all could've gotten together and found ways to cure world hunger, or cancer or teach poor kids how to read, or just walk out and see a better film. 0/10

    Postscript: By the way, I remember walking out of the theater and thinking that “this must be one of the worst films ever made” Yet after reading a comment made by Bay in response to all of the negative criticism of his film, he said “It's easy to go shoot an art movie in a winery in the South of France. But people have no idea how hard it is to create something like Transformers.” Oh boo-hoo Michael Bay. I am not convinced of the “easiness” of shooting an art film, since Bay has not ever produced something even close to one-tenth the value of the works of Michelangelo Antonini or Jean-Luc Godard. But that aside, I must say, that this quote sums up all that Michael Bay's films represents. After reading this, I came to the conclusion that Transformers represents everything that is wrong with cinema today, and that it is the mother of all bad films, and like a cancer, it is killing the art of cinema.


    By the way, I was unaminously outvoted among my friends to go see Inglorious Basterds. We're going to see Surrogates instead, oh how I hope that it won't be half the torture that Transformers was!
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    Just got back from watching Where the Wild Things Are.. I enjoyed it very much but I have to reiterate what the reviewers said... it's not for little kids. I think any child under 8 may not get the gist of the movie. The original book is only 10 lines long, so Spike Jonze took many liberties with it, with the consent of Maurice Sendak. It was during the 'quiet times' in the movie that made it so special.. I think the boy that played Max was exceptional. His name is also Max. Funny coincidence. And towards the end of the movie, I got teary eyed. I didn't even realize that one of the wild things was the voice of James Gandolfini, of Sopranos fame. It wasn't until his anger came out, that I recognized his voice. I would definitely watch it again.
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    City of God - In a world of merciless violence, a world in which massacares are done merely on an insult, a world in which nine year olds hold guns bigger than their hands, a world in which law and reason are non-existent and one's fate is quite bleak, everything is left to chance. One young man gets a religious epiphany from a dream at the right time and reforms, while one of his friends is shot to death in the streets. A an aspiring photographer finds a chance to fulfill his dream, while a gang of little kids aspire to kill the leading man of the city. The final shot of the film perfectly illustrates this. The world here is more bleak then the mob world of Scorsese's Goodfellas which still had ways out, here you are born into a violent world, and are doomed to die at a young age, rarely will one ever find there way out.

    This film is a masterpiece of style. It is infinitely creative and has about a hundred different great moments. It is comparable to Scorsese's Goodfellas and belongs among the greatest of crime films. It takes us through the years of a young man's life, who, could be one of the few to make it out in the world. It is a vision of the underworld, which isn't so underground. It is amazing the amount of characters that we see, and the amount of stories that we hear. Each one fulfills some silent philosophical truth about one of the characters.

    The rapid editing and extreme camera angles are incredible. Take the opening sequence in which a chicken runs away from its butcher and is chased through the streets. This then leads to a confrontation between the gang chasing the chicken and the police. It illustrates so vividly the constant tension within the city. A gang of criminals are chasing their dinner through the streets, then, are facing a troop of police with loaded weapons pointed at them.

    It is amazing that a film as creative as this, and as abroad as any foreign film, could make it to the Oscars (even though it was unjustly neglected for any Best Picture nomination).

    This film has the heart and soul of the streets and is equivalent to the heights of Scorsese. Now coming at the close of the 00s' I can say that without a doubt that along with Ramin Bahrani, Fernando Meirelles is the best new director of this decade and has a lot coming for him in the following years. I hope to see more of him. 10/10


    Chop Shop - It's amazing what a simple film this is. It strikes itself to the roots of Italian neo-realism and is shot in an utterly convincing documentary style with almost every shot being hand-held. Its plot concerns the everyday life of a tough street kid and his relationship with his older sister.

    Their dream is to open their own food stand and they speak about it with such enthusiasm and hope, that we discover how much this means to them living in a bleak world. The kid is a homeless orphan who works at a chop shop stealing car parts from the parking lot at Yankee Stadium, just outside of his workplace.

    The control of emotion in this film is utterly masterful. Ramin Bahrani, an immigrant from Iran, has made three films, all of them concerning unique and hopeful individuals trying to fulfill the American dream. Many of them don't, but if they did, would that be true to life?

    Bahrani is respectful of his subjects space and keeps a distance. There are no melodramatic close-ups, no teary eyed moments, only true and honest human moments. Take one heartbreaking scene in which the brother discovers something about his sister. It is truly unbelievable that a scene with such emotional intensity, and yet such silence could be pulled off by such a young actor. The boy is no Makulie Kulkin and is tough and smart.

    This film is neither up-beat or down-beat, it is true and totally honest filmmaking. A breathe of fresh air. The best film of 2008 and one of the best of the decade. 10/10
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    "Family Plot" by A. Hitchcock. A really good film (but not one of my favorites by said director).
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    Where the Wild Things Are: I really enjoyed the first quarter or so, before Max sailed off. What a great opening, as much energy as when Jason Patrick chases down the meth dealer in the beginning of Narc. Max's behavior is one of the most honest representation of that sort that I've seen in cinema. I was reminded of a few of the children that attended an after school program that I use to work at. I guess my criticism is towards the moral attached to this tale, even though Max learns through reflection rather than being told. Even in its darkest, I found the film to be wholesome and very suburban (as abstract as that is). I'd rather take my child, hypothetical child or course, to this film than anything by Disney. At least the would learn how to be a human being instead of being a warrior (boys) or a princess (girls). If there had o be a moral, at least it was empathy.

    Bronson: I really don't know what to think of this film. I need another viewing.

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    Ive also seen the most recent film, A Serious Man, that just came out. I think it's probably my second favorite of their films.
    That's the one I meant to see.

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    Pearl Harbor- Throughout the history of cinema there have been films that have been leagues ahead of there time. Take the war genre; ever seen the Japanese film Fires on the Plane? Light years ahead of its time, made in 1959 and it was the first film to ever deal with cannibalism among soldiers. How about Apocalypse Now or Come and See, whose level of intensity reached and sometimes surpassed Speilberg's Saving Private Ryan, made thirty years later. All of the above mentioned films are films that took daring steps in dealing and presenting certain issues. they were masterpieces far far ahead of there time and are still effective today. Pearl Harbor is not one of these films. As a matter of fact it is a step back in film history. It returns to truly ancient cliches about war and makes the one-dimensionality of the symbolic hero's in Eisenstein's Battleship Potemkin look like creations of Shakespeare, it's that bad. Who else but Michael Bay would make the 'bold' move of casting Ben Affleck, Josh Harnett and Kate Beckensale in a frickin' love triangle on the eve of the attack on Pearl Harbor? Who else but Michael Bay would find the inclusion of smoking and drinking to be too controversial despite the well-known historical fact that practically every single person living in 1941 drank and smoked. Who else would have such a ****ty script that one cringes every single time an actor opens his or her mouth?

    Why is it that I feel like I'm watching some typical Hollywood propaganda film from the 40s'? I'm by no means criticizing films like Tora!Tora!Tora! or The Guns of the Navorone which are better films than this one by leaps and bounds, but merely pointing out the cliches that have become associated with that era of film history, to be found in a film made in 2001! Did Michael Bay ever once watch Tora! Tora! Tora! or The Guns of the Navorone while making this film? How about Apocalypse Now or Saving Private Ryan. One would think that such a prominent director such as Michael Bay, who is directing a big-budget film on a deeply tragic day in American history, that he would be familiar with what has already been accomplished. But no, he takes the easy was out and makes a film that would receive boos from audiences if released sixty years ago! This is a pitifully empty film with nothing in it but simulations of recycled war film cliches and is an insult to bold directors such a Francis Ford Coppla and bold filmmaking in general. It is an insult to the hero's of December 7, for the film spends well over two hours focusing on a stupid and predictable love triangle between three characters, with the remaining hour spend on special effects and explosions.

    I suppose the most depressing thing about this whole film is the fact that audiences weren't outraged when it came out. Why didn't anybody yell out in the theater “I am smarter than this!” and walk out to see the redux restoration version of Apocalypse Now playing the same time Pearl Harbor came out. But no, despite the fact that it was lauded by critics, it made $499 million at the box office.

    I once asked my sister what her favorite movie was and she answered Pearl Harbor. About a week before we had watched Apocalypse Now and she had walked out within thirty minutes, complaining that it was too boring and long, and plus it was old. Okay yes, Apocalypse Now was made in 1979, if you call that old, then I'm fine with that. It is a long movie, but probably only a little longer then the agony of Pearl Harbor. As for boring. . . .I just can't comprehend. Apocalypse Now is probably the most intense and disturbing war films I've ever seen. As its narrative progresses, you further and further feel like that you are falling into madness along with its characters. Pearl Harbor isn't worth a second of Apocalypse Now. 1.5/10



    Transformers 2 - And if that couldn't get any worse, I must recall the hellish experience of seeing Transformers 2 in the theater with my sister. If there is any reason why you should see this movie, it should only be for an extremely altruistic reason, and even then you'll feel disgusted with yourself.

    My step-sister was not feeling good at all (her boyfriend had just dumped her) and she wanted to get out of the house and go watch some mindless movie (as she admitted herself). I had remembered how much I hated the first one, but felt too much of an obligation to make her feel better.

    So we went into the theater. I had gotten a big Reese's Peanut Butter Cup, which was probably the highlight of the entire experience and is the only thing I wish to remember.

    The lights went down and the projector started. Immediately there was noise, and this noise progressed more and more to unbearable measures as the film went on for two-and a half hours.

    It was the most meaningless use of the film camera I had ever seen. It was an insult to the special effects people who had spend hours creating every single frame of CGI motion, only for them to be set to a nonsense story with nonsense characters and nonsense robots.

    I remember looking around the theater (with a pounding headache) and counting how many people had yet walked out. None had. There were quite a few ten year olds who seemed to be enjoying it immensely, and then I realized that this film was a ten year olds dream. I myself remember being eight or nine and playing with Legos, spinning together outrageously epic plots with outrageously extreme special effects. I suppose I can remember creating robot battles similar to what one sees in Transformers when I was eight. But that's what Legos are for, and, why not just make Transformers a PG rated kids film? But instead we get a violent two-and a half hour commercial with racist undertones and tons of sexual innuendo in the Megan Fox character, who is misogynistically portrayed by Bay as a sex object and nothing else, even though Fox is such a bad actress that there is not much that can be done with her as an actress.

    Upon leaving the theater, after sitting through it for the full two-and a half hours I had felt like a good person, but I felt utterly miserable for having wasted two hours of my life, along with twenty other people, when we all could've gotten together and found ways to cure world hunger, or cancer or teach poor kids how to read, or just walk out and see a better film. 0/10

    Postscript: By the way, I remember walking out of the theater and thinking that “this must be one of the worst films ever made” Yet after reading a comment made by Bay in response to all of the negative criticism of his film, he said “It's easy to go shoot an art movie in a winery in the South of France. But people have no idea how hard it is to create something like Transformers.” Oh boo-hoo Michael Bay. I am not convinced of the “easiness” of shooting an art film, since Bay has not ever produced something even close to one-tenth the value of the works of Michelangelo Antonini or Jean-Luc Godard. But that aside, I must say, that this quote sums up all that Michael Bay's films represents. After reading this, I came to the conclusion that Transformers represents everything that is wrong with cinema today, and that it is the mother of all bad films, and like a cancer, it is killing the art of cinema.


    By the way, I was unaminously outvoted among my friends to go see Inglorious Basterds. We're going to see Surrogates instead, oh how I hope that it won't be half the torture that Transformers was!
    Agreed, but the work that went into the film is impressive. It's ridicolous for Bay to take that much credit with so many people on the payroll. I'm sure he did more consulting that directing. He's not writing, operation the camera, or even making furniture for his films like Lynch. Lynch makes "art films", but to call what Lynch does easy is absurd. It's far easier to build a house with a crew, with multiple specialist, than it is to do it yourself. What a dick.

    You can have all the tecnical skill in the world, but he doesn't take the material seriously (and you can be as campy as John Waters and still be serious about the material). I can get all I need out of a Bay picture by watching the trailer. I really don't need to see two hours of rotating and push shots (I found it obnoxious in The Departed as well); it just shows that the material is weak.

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    City of God - In a world of merciless violence, a world in which massacares are done merely on an insult, a world in which nine year olds hold guns bigger than their hands, a world in which law and reason are non-existent and one's fate is quite bleak, everything is left to chance. One young man gets a religious epiphany from a dream at the right time and reforms, while one of his friends is shot to death in the streets. A an aspiring photographer finds a chance to fulfill his dream, while a gang of little kids aspire to kill the leading man of the city. The final shot of the film perfectly illustrates this. The world here is more bleak then the mob world of Scorsese's Goodfellas which still had ways out, here you are born into a violent world, and are doomed to die at a young age, rarely will one ever find there way out.

    This film is a masterpiece of style. It is infinitely creative and has about a hundred different great moments. It is comparable to Scorsese's Goodfellas and belongs among the greatest of crime films. It takes us through the years of a young man's life, who, could be one of the few to make it out in the world. It is a vision of the underworld, which isn't so underground. It is amazing the amount of characters that we see, and the amount of stories that we hear. Each one fulfills some silent philosophical truth about one of the characters.

    The rapid editing and extreme camera angles are incredible. Take the opening sequence in which a chicken runs away from its butcher and is chased through the streets. This then leads to a confrontation between the gang chasing the chicken and the police. It illustrates so vividly the constant tension within the city. A gang of criminals are chasing their dinner through the streets, then, are facing a troop of police with loaded weapons pointed at them.

    It is amazing that a film as creative as this, and as abroad as any foreign film, could make it to the Oscars (even though it was unjustly neglected for any Best Picture nomination).

    This film has the heart and soul of the streets and is equivalent to the heights of Scorsese. Now coming at the close of the 00s' I can say that without a doubt that along with Ramin Bahrani, Fernando Meirelles is the best new director of this decade and has a lot coming for him in the following years. I hope to see more of him. 10/10


    Chop Shop - It's amazing what a simple film this is. It strikes itself to the roots of Italian neo-realism and is shot in an utterly convincing documentary style with almost every shot being hand-held. Its plot concerns the everyday life of a tough street kid and his relationship with his older sister.

    Their dream is to open their own food stand and they speak about it with such enthusiasm and hope, that we discover how much this means to them living in a bleak world. The kid is a homeless orphan who works at a chop shop stealing car parts from the parking lot at Yankee Stadium, just outside of his workplace.

    The control of emotion in this film is utterly masterful. Ramin Bahrani, an immigrant from Iran, has made three films, all of them concerning unique and hopeful individuals trying to fulfill the American dream. Many of them don't, but if they did, would that be true to life?

    Bahrani is respectful of his subjects space and keeps a distance. There are no melodramatic close-ups, no teary eyed moments, only true and honest human moments. Take one heartbreaking scene in which the brother discovers something about his sister. It is truly unbelievable that a scene with such emotional intensity, and yet such silence could be pulled off by such a young actor. The boy is no Makulie Kulkin and is tough and smart.

    This film is neither up-beat or down-beat, it is true and totally honest filmmaking. A breathe of fresh air. The best film of 2008 and one of the best of the decade. 10/10
    The style and narrative reminded me of Boogie Night; it's still a great piece of cinema.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickAdams View Post
    Close-ups are great, but it depends on you motivation for using them. When it is used for emotional emphasis, than it is nothing more than an exclamation mark, but when used with fascination, than you have Bergman.
    Oh of course they are. I didn't mean to denounce the application of close-ups or anything, I merely wanted emphasize Bahrani's distant and contemplative style in which very few reaction shots are used and such.

    I can get all I need out of a Bay picture by watching the trailer.
    Lol exactly. It's mightly cool to see those things transform for the first time, but only for about five seconds and only the first time. Seeing it happen on the screen over and over for two and a half hours is just ridiculous self-indulgence.

    Btw, I award the production team everything in the world for making such well-done special effects. But it is the director's and writer's job to put that technology to good use. It's the writer's, actor's and Michael Bay's fault for mutilating and overdoing what could've been a reasonably entertaining Hollywood blockbuster.
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    The Moments of Dominion
    That happen on the Soul
    And leave it with a Discontent
    Too exquisite — to tell —
    -Emily Dickinson
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVW8GCnr9-I
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckGIvr6WVw4

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    “Years ago my mother used to say to me, she'd say, 'In this world, Elwood, you must be' -- she always called me Elwood -- 'n this world, Elwood, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant.' Well for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. You may quote me.”

    Harvey - I begin with this quote because it virtually sums up the simplicity and pleasantness of Elwood, the films protagonist, who, enjoys passing the time in bars and pubs, being a gentleman to everyone (even the most insulting), drinking with his invisible six and a half foot rabbit friend Harvey.

    This film, along with Vertigo and It's a Wonderful Life, is the reason why James Stewart is known as one of the immortals of cinema. The selection and diversity of his characters is immense. In It's a Wonderful Life he was an ambitious young man, frustrated by the fact that he can't escape the confines of his hometown; in Vertigo he was a retired police detective who becomes obsessed with the perfect women; in Harvey, he plays an anti-conformist who greets adversity with a smile.

    In the sense that he is an anti-conformist, is that he refuses to be a narcissistic self-righteous member of the herd. It's not that he is consciously rebelling, it's just against his pleasant personality.

    Harvey, adapted from Mary Chase's Pulitzer prize winning play, takes place almost within the confines of a single day, the plot being a comedic farce concerning Elwood's image-obsessed sister and her attempts to commit him to a mental institution. James Stewart as Elwood merely seems to float and dance around all of the events of the day, practically not knowing what is going on, introducing himself left and right, offering his card, and inviting new acquaintances to dinner. He is the most powerful and free person in the entire film, because he has utterly surrendered himself to the music and rhythm of life, to the smiles and handshakes of the world (the world that at least, wishes to smile back).

    Harvey is a special film. There's nothing that special in the directing (though the invisible effects of Harvey's presence is always magical), it is a film of phenomenal performances and writing. It could virtually be a stage production if it were not for all of the many special performances and moments. Every single character has his or hers own beautiful idiosyncrasies and personalities, and are usually only recognized by somebody as caring as Elwood. Just look at the scene in which Elwood is searching for Harvey as he freely wanders about the institutions grounds, he comes upon the electric gate at the exit (something quite innovative and modern for 1950), he comments on how fascinating it is to the elderly police man who runs it. He engages in his usual politeness, but no matter how routine, he always seems utterly sincere.

    Elwood is an individual who belongs to the tradition of Falstaff and Don Quioxte who surrenders himself to the world of play. I must admit that of all of the many characters in cinema, it is he whom I aspire to be the most. I remember watching Harvey over the years every Easter ever since I was a little kid, and I must say that it was grown on me with each viewing. It is no longer that routine holiday film which I would watch once a year, but it is a deep character study of all of the many roles that we might play in the world. So very few films say so much about something in such a pleasant way, and in the absence tragedy (though faithful readers of mine will know that I prefer tragic stories over easy shallow tales). But Harvey is not a shallow film, it is filled with comedic joy, all done at the expense of all of the other films characters, who just don't seem to understand Elwood's innocence and joy. There is not a single despicable character in this film, almost all of them have their faults, but we seemed to have already accepted them as friends along with Elwood.

    The most beautiful scene in the entire film (and probably in my opinion, Stewart's shining moment), takes place in a back-alley outside of a club with jazz music playing in the distance, with Elwood explaining to two psychologists who have been following him all day, how he met Harvey. Of course there is so much more to this scene, and is an opening into Elwood's psyche. It is so perfect and so calmly and casually articulated by Stewart, that we can't help but fall along with the two doctors into the trance that is Elwood. There is a shot in which we see the two doctors faces as they listen to Elwood talk, and we can see for about a moment, that they too are experiencing the joy the Elwood is constantly experiencing, for the first time in their life.

    I haven't even gotten to Josephine Hall's manic performance as Elwood's sister. It is truly a work of comedic genius; her mannerisms and thoughts completely preoccupied with impressing her friends and making sure that her daughter Myrtle May find the “perfect young man”. She is the antagonist and cause of all the action in the plot, but is not so threatening to the audience, living behind Elwood's pleasant smile. Take the scene in which the head doctor is explaining to Elwood how all day she had been attempting to lock him up. Elwood thoughtfully replies, “She did all that in one afternoon. Veta certainly is a whirlwind isn't she?”

    As for Harvey; Elwood's imaginary rabbit friend on which the entirety of the film is centered on. What is Harvey? Is he real or imagined? Merely a figment of some of the characters imaginations or a true physical force? I believe such questions are irrelevant to the fact that Harvey, real of imagined, is the uncanny reflection of Elwood's innocence, his forever-loyal friend and companion, which is himself and the world. Harvey is a physical manifestation of Elwood's warmth and kindness. Like a fantastic six foot white rabbit, Elwood welcomes the world with open arms.

    Oh how I make this sound like some complex philsophical film. It is philosophical in the sense that Charlie Chaplin's City Lights is philosophical. It is a delightful entertainment, making one think of their best experiences at the theatre. It is hilarious and quick-witted (with Hall's performance being by far the funniest) and is filled with so many theatrical soliloqueys by characters from cab-drivers to scientific-minded psychologists.

    Elwood may be a simple man, but is not a simple character. He annunciates so many bits of knowledge on life and humanity without even noticing it. He is a genius of humility and wholesomeness. Stewart's performance is so humble, and Chase's script so subtle, that this film can be immensely underappretiated at first or second viewing, but eventually grows out to be an elegantly mysterious character study of a man who seems to be beyond us. Who is Elwood? Maybe he's a metaphor for that piece of humanity inside every one of us. Either way, he is without a doubt the Falstaff, the Prince Myshkin of the 20th century. The idiot of cinema. 10/10
    The Moments of Dominion
    That happen on the Soul
    And leave it with a Discontent
    Too exquisite — to tell —
    -Emily Dickinson
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVW8GCnr9-I
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckGIvr6WVw4

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