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    Eddy Van Vliet

    {Belgium, b. 1942}

    THE CITY

    The city is covered with places you
    took from me. Full of joint
    footsteps, full of joint laughs.
    They were sheltered by dreams and if need be
    love grabbed the gun to protect them.

    Tell my legs how to evade
    what belonged to them.
    Tell them. They refuse to believe
    that the theaters have burnt, restaurants
    were hit by plagues, terraces vanished
    into thin air, hotels closed,
    the courtyard was demolished.

    I bow my head and think
    the rain will not hit me. ............. {excerpt}

    {translated from the Flemish by John van Tiel}

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    Robert Pinsky

    THOUSANDS OF BROADWAYS
    Dreams and Nightmares of the American Small Town.
    By Robert Pinsky.
    University of Chicago, $16.


    Pinsky, a former poet laureate, first delivered the thoughts contained in this slim volume in a series of lectures at Rice University. Much of the book reads like the transcript of a class one might guiltlessly sleep through. “The American small town, by now a setting at least half-mythical,” he argues, “provides a mimetic arena where contradictions between slavery and freedom, or between abundance and emptiness, hark back to even more fundamental contradictions.”
    {quote from review...NYTimes}
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    @the City

    At first I did not read carefully and I thought the poem was written in 1942. I thought it was about WWII. Now I see I was wrong and the writer was born in that year.

    I did not know this poet. I will check him out - thank you for introducing him. I have to say I like the Dutch version a bit better though. It says rather "the plague" than "plagues", "the terraces" than terraces etc. I wonder why the translator changed it. And the last verse is a bit different in translation too - putting a "." where a "," is. I kind of like that though... I guess translation is just as much about making choices as writing the poetry itself is

    I like the idea - how a city looses all its charm when you loose the one you explored that city with. The one you lived with in that city.
    It is not too late, to be wild for roundabouts - to be wild for life
    Wolfsheim - It is not too late

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    To Sapphire: It's great that you know Flemish and can re-translate with effect. Let me post another by the same author and you can give me your opinion of the translator/translation. q1

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    Eddy Van Vliet

    {Belgium, b. 1942)

    PARTY

    After years the reunion. Brushed the dogs,
    the feuds forgotten, the sons the image
    of the father. Comparing weight:
    belly, money, and ethics.

    The late-comers are not expected earlier.
    She who once was the queen, casts around
    pictures of her daughters, and nobody
    is surprised when the poet asks for the name
    of the lady who was his big childhood love.

    The laughers are talking condoms again, smoking almost
    completely forbidden and anyone who does not embrace
    United Europe now is lost. The cinders in the barbecue
    Are glowing red. No lack of cancer causes here.

    The munchies are going round, the whisky works its miracles
    and from the wounds of the bacon the fat is dripping.
    The names of the dead are exchanged like addresses
    on the last holiday. {excerpt}

    {translated from the Flemish by John Van Tiel}

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    Barbara Helfgott Hyett

    IN THE RING OF TWENTY SIGNS

    —after Joseph Campbell

    The third ring is the future scraping
    the present: what is next enters, closes
    itself to the past. The fifth ring is
    observation. The sixth, satisfaction
    of what is known. The fourth ring
    is worry, but that is naive, short-lived,
    a waste of time, which is the tenth ring,
    the middle. The eleventh ring is pleasure;
    feeding, but not gluttony, sex but not
    depletion. The twelfth ring: love.
    The thirteenth, love undone, unleashed
    attachment. Rings six through nine are
    marriage. The fourteenth ring is silence.
    The fifteenth, desire. The sixteenth
    ring, mercy. The sixteenth ring is true.
    At seventeen you stand alone on the stairway.
    The seventeenth ring is achievement.
    The eighteenth gives it all away. Not
    generously. Not regretfully. Just given.
    The nineteenth ring is loneliness suffered
    despite oneself. ..... {excerpt}



    Barbara Helfgott Hyett teaches at the Harvard University Graduate School of Education and directs a bussiness, The Workshop for Publishing Poets, in Brookline, Mass. She is the author of four books and has had poems and essays published in over one hundred magazines and in twenty-two anthologies. (2001)
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    Sándor Csoóri

    LETTER TO THE AMERICAN POET, GREGORY CORSO

    {translated from the Hungarian by Len Roberts and Lászlo Vértes}

    I’d like to roam the world with you,
    Corso,
    derailer of time,
    twentieth-century rowdy.
    Your striped t-shirt reminds me of prison clothes,
    runaway prisoner of poetry,
    apostle of adultery.
    Come on, tie up your sneakers,
    let’s go to the Moon,
    the Sahara,
    and the capital of our good mood: Spoleto!

    It’s night in Dome Square.
    Marble cubes swim about in the glass of darkness,
    like splinters of ice
    in bitter whiskey.

    Let’s drink the city down at one gulp!

    ..................................



    It may be good to steal cars
    if we can’t steal immortality

    and to peal with the tin-box
    if we can’t with Christ’s leg.



    Let’s play—you like to play:
    let’s poke each other’s eyes,
    perhaps we’ll be kinder this way
    than those who smile.
    Let’s break up your bombs for eggs on a plate
    and Europe may then admire a new art of cooking.



    And moron! moron!—let’s holler
    at the Polar Bear-Senator,
    the prime minsters, who spend
    the weekend in the barrel of a cannon.
    Oh, weekends!
    oh, Sundays!
    oh, Whitehouses! Parliaments!
    tanks crawl forth
    from your snail shells everywhere
    and the poets fall on their backs on their slimy tracks.
    Morons! morons!—let’s holler at the poets
    who fall on their backs,
    they don’t deserve bread,
    women,
    they don’t deserve death.

    ..................................

    Everything can happen to us
    if we stay,
    everything that has already happened to us.
    Come on,
    we should be that procession
    which rambles every which-way,
    changes homeland to get to like the other’s homeland,
    signs the sea, as if some picture postcard,
    and has a rest in the towns,
    to let the towns have a rest, too,
    and doesn’t petition for mercy
    when it’s sued for its marching,
    which it came to love on the seventh day.

    {excerpt}

    Sándor Csoóri is one of Hungary’s foremost poets and essayists. (1992)

    Len Roberts’ translation of Sándor Csoóri’s Selected Poems has recently been published. (1992)
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    Adam Zagajewski

    {Poland, b. 1945}

    ELECTRIC ELEGY
    {for Robert Hass}

    Farewell, German radio with your green eye
    and your bulky box,
    together almost composing
    a body and soul. (Your lamps glowed
    with a pink, salmony light, like Bergson's
    deep self.)
    Through the thick fabric
    of the speaker (my ear glued to you as
    to the lattice of a confessional), Mussolini once whispered,
    Hitler shouted, Stalin calmly explained,
    Bierut hissed, Gomulka held endlessly forth.
    But no one, radio, will accuse you of treason;
    no, your only sin was obedience absolute,
    tender faithfulness to the megahertz;
    whoever came was welcomed, whoever was sent
    was received.
    Of course I know only
    the songs of Schubert brought you the jade
    of true joy. To Chopin's waltzes
    your electric heart throbbed delicately
    and firmly and the cloth over the speaker
    pulsated like the breasts of amorous girls
    in old novels.
    Not with the news, though,
    Especially not Radio Free Europe or the BBC.
    ..........................
    At night, forlorn signals found shelter
    in your rooms, sailors cried out for help,
    the young comet cried, losing her head.
    Your old age was announced by a cracked voice,
    then rattles, coughing, and finally blindness
    (your eye faded), and total silence.
    Sleep peacefully, German radio,
    dream Schumann and don't waken
    when the next dictator-rooster crows.

    {translated from the Polish by Renata Gorczynski and C.K. Williams}
    {excerpt}

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    Gregory Corso

    AMERICA POLITICA HISTORIA, IN SPONTANEITY

    O this political air so heavy with the bells
    and motors of a slow night, and no place to rest
    but rain to walk—How it rings the Washington streets!
    The umbrella’d congressmen; the rapping tires
    of big black cars, the shoulders of lobbyists
    caught under canopies and in doorways,
    and it rains, it will not let up,
    and meanwhile lame futurists weep into Spengler’s
    prophecy, will the world be over before the races blend color?
    All color must be one or let the world be done—
    There’ll be a chance, we’ll all be orange!
    I don’t want to be orange!
    Nothing about God’s color to complain;
    and there is a beauty in yellow, the old Lama
    in his robe the color of Cathay;
    in black a strong & vital beauty,
    Thelonious Monk in his robe of Norman charcoal—
    And if Western Civilization comes to an end
    (though I doubt it, for the prophet has not
    executed his prophecy) surely the Eastern child
    will sit by a window, and wonder
    the old statues, the ornamented doors;
    the decorated banquet of the West—
    Inflamed by futurists I too weep in rain at night
    at the midnight of Western Civilization;
    Dante’s step into Hell will never be forgotten by Hell;
    the Gods’ adoption of Homer will never be forgotten by the Gods;
    the books of France are on God’s bookshelf;
    no civil war will take place on the fields of God;
    and I don’t doubt the egg of the East its glory—
    Yet it rains and the motors go
    and continued when I slept by that wall in Washington
    which separated the motors in the death-parlor
    where Joe McCarthy lay, lean and stilled,
    ten blocks from the Capitol—
    I could never understand Uncle Sam
    his red & white striped pants his funny whiskers his starry hat:
    how surreal Yankee Doodle Dandy, goof!
    American history has a way of making you feel
    George Washington is still around, that is
    when I think of Washington I do not think of Death—
    {excerpt...roughly one third of this poem}.....poet referred to in post 442.
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    Have you heard of Geoffry Hill Quasi? I just came across him today and it piqued my interest.
    LET THERE BE LIGHT

    "Love follows knowledge." – St. Catherine of Siena

    My literature blog: http://ashesfromburntroses.blogspot.com/

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    yes, Virgil, I've heard of him. I think I may have posted something of his in the "fragments" thread some time back but I'm not sure. You can "find" him here... http://www.poetryfoundation.org/arch...t.html?id=3152 . What have you read that got your interest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by quasimodo1 View Post
    yes, Virgil, I've heard of him. I think I may have posted something of his in the "fragments" thread some time back but I'm not sure. You can "find" him here... http://www.poetryfoundation.org/arch...t.html?id=3152 . What have you read that got your interest?
    Well, it was in a magazine I was perrusing and I'm already forgetting. The writer of the article thought him the most important poet from England in the last decade or so and that he was very erudite. The bits of fragments that the article provided did show a highly crafted work.
    LET THERE BE LIGHT

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    According to the Poetry Foundation database...he's definitely a scholarly poet, some say difficult and challenging. Like so many erudite-in-extremus poets... he's not everyman's poet... which intrigues me even more. --- http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&...d0Cgz4A6mDQ3f8
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    I'm going to have to explore him.
    LET THERE BE LIGHT

    "Love follows knowledge." – St. Catherine of Siena

    My literature blog: http://ashesfromburntroses.blogspot.com/

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    "A scholar and critic as well as a poet, Hill has published several collections of criticism and essays. Between 1959 and 1996 he published four collections of poetry, but over the last two decades he has become more prolific, with The Orchards of Syon (2002), Speech! Speech! (2000), and The Triumph of Love (1998). Reviewing the poems in A Treatise of Civil Power (2007), critic Tim Martin notes, “Hill’s persistent (and persistently underrated) wit lends both lightness and a paradoxical gravity to even the most abstruse passages of his dense, argumentative verse.” tidbit from that site...

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