Les Miserables,
Volume 1, Fifth Book, Chapter 3
Remember this, my friends: there are no such things as bad plants or bad men. There are only bad cultivators.
I think both Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward did love scenes and their marriage lasted many, many years, seemingly without major problems.
I would doubt that a love scene is romantic in any way with all the lights and cameramen, etc. right in front of you.
I still don't think celebrity marriages are any more challenging than non-celebrity marriages.
I never thought about that before. That is true. Well, I am not one of those actresses. So I have no idea how their minds work.
I always joke and say that when I was 13-14 my brother and I use to "date" because whenever he went to the movies I was always his "date".I don't mind a nude scene, but this was twenty or thirty minutes of nudity and sex scenes. Not a good way of starting the film. And I almost went to see this film at the theatre with my oldest brother!So we had seen a large amount of movies during that time. A good deal of them were 'R'. That rating was due to the language or violence or sex (all based on what the movie was). It was OK watching this stuff until the nude/sex scenes came on. I use to just die. I was so uncomfortable watching this stuff with him (and I am sure he was the same way with me, definitely). I use to want to just sink down in my chair because I was so uncomfortable. We would also watch a lot of movies at home. But then I could at least get up and leave during those scenes.
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I heard there was a lot in there, but I didn't know, until you saw it, that there was THAT much in there.It was almost embarrassing to watch on my Sony portable. My husband came up behind me and said, "I didn't know the movie was porn." It's not! :lol
I have to say that I completely agree with you on this. I really don't think any of their marriages are any more challenging. I also don't think a love scene will determine whether or not a marriage has more of a chance of surviving. Those actors are just doing their job. They agreed to those scenes, and they have to film them. I really don't think they think twice about what they are doing in regards to whether it will affect the relationship with their spouse. After all, acting is their job. They are just doing their job. As for Mark Harmon, I think it is just personal preference of whether he wants to do the scenes or not. I don't think he has too much of a problem because I have seen him in "heavier" scenes. I also think the reason he is still married to her is because he loves his wife and they still get along. Plain and simple.
I just finished watching Dead Poets Society and loved it!
Les Miserables,
Volume 1, Fifth Book, Chapter 3
Remember this, my friends: there are no such things as bad plants or bad men. There are only bad cultivators.
In Her Shoes (again)
It's a good character-study movie, I want to read the book.
~chel
I don't know that I can agree with that. Well, I can't. I think you're just focusing on the ones that break up. And they love being in the spotlight.
Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward's marriage lasted fifty years.
Jack Lemmon and Felicia Farr were married seemingly forever.
Tony Randall was happily married until his wife died, then he married and had children with a woman he remained married to until he died.
Charlton Heston was happily married as were Henry Fonda and John Wayne. Clint Eastwood has been married to Dina Ruiz for some time now.
There's Will Smith and Jada Pinkett-Smith, who seem devoted to each other.
Even Michael Douglas and Catherine Zeta-Jones seem happily married, but both of them are ending their careers in acting, so trouble may be brewing there.
There are scores of other good celebrity marriages.
Meanwhile, the divorce rate for marriage in general is over fifty percent.
That's what I meant by them being in the spotlight...
The media will always point out the failures, but never the successes...I agree with what you are saying.
Les Miserables,
Volume 1, Fifth Book, Chapter 3
Remember this, my friends: there are no such things as bad plants or bad men. There are only bad cultivators.
I would NEVER do a nude scene, either. Not for any amount of money. I wouldn't want that on my resume.
I choose the movies I watch with my brother very carefully. LOL Especially when we're in a theatre. It's usually something like a Batman or Superman movie or even James Bond, which won't be too racy. (I adore Daniel Craig, do you like him?) We did see "Borat" together, and my brother said it was "just too crude." It was crude. Comedy today is rather mindless, I think, whereas in the 30s and 40s, it was very intelligent. The "Thin Man" series is comedic and very smart. Same for the Katharine Hepburn comedies. And Clark Gable and Cary Grant. I just LOVE classic film!Originally Posted by LadyWentworth
I didn't think there would be that much. I was surprised. I don't remember the book having that much. I loved the book. I think the book was better than the movie. I bought Bernard Schlink's lastest book, Homecoming because I loved The Reader.Originally Posted by LadyWentworth
I agree. I think they're just thinking about their job and pay check and not the romantic aspect of the scene. Naturally, they have to make it look romantic, but I'm sure it isn't with all the soundmen, camera crews, etc. around. Probably anything but.I have to say that I completely agree with you on this. I really don't think any of their marriages are any more challenging. I also don't think a love scene will determine whether or not a marriage has more of a chance of surviving. Those actors are just doing their job. They agreed to those scenes, and they have to film them. I really don't think they think twice about what they are doing in regards to whether it will affect the relationship with their spouse. After all, acting is their job. They are just doing their job. As for Mark Harmon, I think it is just personal preference of whether he wants to do the scenes or not. I don't think he has too much of a problem because I have seen him in "heavier" scenes. I also think the reason he is still married to her is because he loves his wife and they still get along. Plain and simple.
If they care what the media think of their marriages, then they shouldn't BE married in the first place. We aren't going to agree on this one. LOL I just pointed out the GOOD things the media said about them. I think non-celebrity marriages actually have more pressure. They have more financial trouble, more day-to-day problems to solve together.Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC
That is a lovely, lovely film, and Robin Williams was fantastic, but that one part in it (you know what I mean, I think, I don't want to spoil it here in case someone hasn't seen it) is just so, so sad! It always makes me cry. Have you seen "Good Will Hunting?" You'd probably like that one.Originally Posted by parapony
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MissScarlett, I do know what you mean about that part - heartbreaking. I loved the film and "Good Will Hunting" is amazing. Robin Williams is a very fine serious actor.
I agree with everyone's posts. Nudity in films and sex scenes are just part of the business of modern films; the actors are professional and getting paid to do it and even they will admit at times they feel uncomfortable. I think sex 'scenes/nudity' is fine if not overdone, but some film seem like a constant dose and then it's just plain annoying; like too much CG work. I have this advesion also to films where the guy just looks like he is banging the woman up against a wall; the women sometimes look like they are sheer pain; oh please! I saw Kate W and Patrick Wilson in "Little Children" and thought those love/sex scenes a bit much; didn't inspire me to suffer through the film again. To me that was not passion, but pure lust. Same with the library scene in "Atonement". I liked both films, but didn't care so much for those scenes. I like sensual passionate films 100% better, and I love the classics; how smart they were back then; to show just enough and suggest the rest. Look at Gary Grant and Ingrid Bergman in "Notorious"...the scene ozes passion and sexual desire and yet neither have yet taken their clothes off, nor never do; I could not get over what a hot scene it was regardless. Hitchcock knew how to do that with camera angles, sexy suggestive kisses, etc...it's very tantalizing.
I will try to locate some funny videos I saw on Youtube of interviews where the subject of sex scene fiasco's came up. Some were truly fun. Now both Johnny Depp and Ewan McGregor have done sex scenes and both have stayed with their real life woman and mother of their kids for years now. I think the pressures arise more from being appart for long periods of time while they are filming. It's not due to the sex scenes or the actresses they kiss passionatly. Afterall, these girlfriends and wives know perfectly well what the score is and how they will have to see their significant others, making pretend love to other beautiful woman; visa versa same thing applies to men.
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"It's so mysterious, the land of tears."
Chapter 7, The Little Prince ~ Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
I agree with you, Janine. And speaking of "Atonement," I felt the same way. I didn't like that scene, didn't think it was necessary, but overall, I did like the movie a lot. You're right, they are portraying lust, not passion. Just look at "Wuthering Heights." No clothes off in that one, and Timothy Dalton and Anna Calder-Marshall did portray passion, not lust. They were very passionate, much more so than KW and the kid (sorry, I can't remember his name) in "The Reader." Those two can't hold a candle to Dalton and Calder-Marshall when it comes to passion!
Oh, did you see "Evening," Janine? So many people I know didn't like that movie, but I loved it. I love Vanessa Redgrave in anything, though her part in this wasn't large at all.
Anyone who wants to talk about the film, feel welcome. I didn't mean to exclude anyone.
Les Miserables,
Volume 1, Fifth Book, Chapter 3
Remember this, my friends: there are no such things as bad plants or bad men. There are only bad cultivators.
I know you didn't say they never said anything good. I didn't mean to imply that you didn't, and sorry if seemed that way.
Well, we disagree about celebrity marriages being more challenging, but that's fine, that's cool. People don't agree about everything. If they did, it would be boring!![]()
What I do agree with you about is that nudity usually doesn't add to a film. But it was funny in A Knight's Tale...![]()
Les Miserables,
Volume 1, Fifth Book, Chapter 3
Remember this, my friends: there are no such things as bad plants or bad men. There are only bad cultivators.