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    Quote Originally Posted by Silas Thorne View Post
    Nothing compared to the West Coast of the South Island!
    Nobody lives there!
    Go to work, get married, have some kids, pay your taxes, pay your bills, watch your tv, follow fashion, act normal, obey the law and repeat after me: "I am free."

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    I know an Englishman who told me that when he was in Singapore, he just couldn't stop looking at the oriental girls when he was out with his wife, who kept reprimanding him for it.
    Therefore, and this is strictly for the blokes, should men be allowed to look at other women without having to suffer a rebuke from their partners whether married or otherwise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Bean View Post
    I know an Englishman who told me that when he was in Singapore, he just couldn't stop looking at the oriental girls when he was out with his wife, who kept reprimanding him for it.
    Therefore, and this is strictly for the blokes, should men be allowed to look at other women without having to suffer a rebuke from their partners whether married or otherwise?
    Good question, to which the answer is a conditional yes.

    My wife gives me a nudge when she thinks I might have missed a tasty blonde, so she has no problem with it. Window-shopping is fine.

    I think it all depends on the strength of the relationship, because I'm sure that if Mrs Atheist thought I might go and buy some of the goods on display, she wouldn't be quite so relaxed about the window-shopping.

    Another thing which comes into it is figure. Men tend to check out the types of figures on display in this thread, while many wives and mothers no longer have that kind of figure. I can understand a somewhat chubby wife with body/self esteem issues being pretty upset by hubby checking out a load of skinny chicks.

    Not as cut and dried as it should be.
    Go to work, get married, have some kids, pay your taxes, pay your bills, watch your tv, follow fashion, act normal, obey the law and repeat after me: "I am free."

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    I agree with Atheist about the strength of the relationship. When I married Mrs Bien, she'd been through two unfaithful relationships (meaning both guys were cheaters). I had to establish trustworthiness in me so that she knew I was TRUE. Now she knows that I won't wander.

    But also...are we glancing from the peripheral, looking respectfully, staring intently, ogling T&A, whiplash double-take, tongue hanging/drooling, or sampling?

    Some people might find some of those choices distasteful...and unfortunately some people wouldn't...

    Again...I agree with Atheist (which I'm going to have to stop doing) concerning the confidence level of a woman. If a man let's his wife know that he thinks that she is beautiful (not only saying it, but acting it too), she will be less likely be put out by respectful glances. My wife's uncle will comment about a woman's beauty (usually on TV) then qualify the statement with a compliment to his wife's appearance. Men...you can honestly say..."That girl is attractive, but not nearly as beautiful as you, Hun!"...because you know the inner beauty of your wife. I don't think that there is anything wrong with admiring beauty...whether created by an artist...or by God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC View Post
    My wife's uncle will comment about a woman's beauty (usually on TV) then qualify the statement with a compliment to his wife's appearance. Men...you can honestly say..."That girl is attractive, but not nearly as beautiful as you, Hun!"...because you know the inner beauty of your wife. .
    Or is it because they don't want, to use a rather indelicate American phrase, a 'smack in the kisser?'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Bean View Post
    Or is it because they don't want, to use a rather indelicate American phrase, a 'smack in the kisser?'
    No...I think it's that they don't want the 'cold shoulder'...and the ATTITUDE...
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    Rather happily not married, so I don't worry about it.

    Though, if I were, I would have to agree to Mr. Athiest as well. My mother and father both look at attractive women out in public, and my mother will point one out to my father, who in turn will direct my own single-oriented eyes.

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    Wow, this thread has gone a long way!
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    I dunno Virg, that bathroom looks suspiciously clean.
    Women cleaning ladies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Bean
    I know an Englishman who told me that when he was in Singapore, he just couldn't stop looking at the oriental girls when he was out with his wife, who kept reprimanding him for it.
    Therefore, and this is strictly for the blokes, should men be allowed to look at other women without having to suffer a rebuke from their partners whether married or otherwise?
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    Good question, to which the answer is a conditional yes.

    My wife gives me a nudge when she thinks I might have missed a tasty blonde, so she has no problem with it. Window-shopping is fine.

    I think it all depends on the strength of the relationship, because I'm sure that if Mrs Atheist thought I might go and buy some of the goods on display, she wouldn't be quite so relaxed about the window-shopping.

    Another thing which comes into it is figure. Men tend to check out the types of figures on display in this thread, while many wives and mothers no longer have that kind of figure. I can understand a somewhat chubby wife with body/self esteem issues being pretty upset by hubby checking out a load of skinny chicks.

    Not as cut and dried as it should be.
    I mostly agree with Atheist, and know too well the instinctive drive to "window shop," but hold true to the look-but-don't-touch rule - also not to look too much or too often. Taking the situation the other way around, I do not feel in the least offended in a girlfriend of mine checking out other men, nor even if she nudges me playfully and says "he has a nice @$$!" As long as she holds true to the look-but-don't-touch-rule, I do not mind in the least. Most humans have the ability to suppress their natural sexual appetites, and I would like to think I would never date someone who could not (but have gotten deceived a time or two); if they cannot suppress their desire to play on the field, then obviously they seem unready for or unhappy in a relationship.
    We have more or less appropriate things to note. If you note that another woman has beautiful eyes and remark that to your girlfriend/wife, somehow it seems so much more acceptable than noticing that the other woman also wears a thin t-shirt, and evidently feels awfully cold; I would likely comment on that, too, in a joking manner, so she can share a laugh with me.

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    I window shop too, but my wife doesn't particularly like it. So I have to do it out of the corner of my eye. Oh and for the record, I only look.
    LET THERE BE LIGHT

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    Quote Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC View Post
    Again...I agree with Atheist (which I'm going to have to stop doing) ...
    Crikey, yes!

    There are parts of the internet agreeing with me will get you much worse than the cold shoulder!



    Quote Originally Posted by mono View Post
    Wow, this thread has gone a long way!
    See how easy it is when a few blokes chew the fat without women listening?

    Quote Originally Posted by mono View Post
    Taking the situation the other way around, I do not feel in the least offended in a girlfriend of mine checking out other men, nor even if she nudges me playfully and says "he has a nice @$$!" As long as she holds true to the look-but-don't-touch-rule, I do not mind in the least.
    Hell yes - goose/gander and all that. Can't stand jealousy.

    I know men who would commit an assault on someone indulging in admiration of "his" woman. Some of them are already in jail. That's one area of man-dom (does that sound like a bdsm come-on or what? ) which needs some serious damage control - women are not chattels. Unfortunately, lots of blokes don't know that.
    Go to work, get married, have some kids, pay your taxes, pay your bills, watch your tv, follow fashion, act normal, obey the law and repeat after me: "I am free."

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    See how easy it is when a few blokes chew the fat without women listening?
    I don't think this is happening though. They're always in the background, watching our movements.... We can only pretend they're not here. Look! I saw one hiding in the bushes over by the fence, trying to sneak over near the barbie. Ninjas! (looking around) They're everywhere! Quickly get out your hammers, I'm sure someone's going to jump over the fence wielding stillettos!


    I know men who would commit an assault on someone indulging in admiration of "his" woman. Some of them are already in jail. That's one area of man-dom (does that sound like a bdsm come-on or what? ) which needs some serious damage control - women are not chattels. Unfortunately, lots of blokes don't know that.
    Yes, I hate these idiots!
    And there are, unfortunately, a few women (the dangerous minority) who try to get men to dance with them at nightclubs, or actively seek attention, precisely because they have boyfriends like this, and want to make them jealous.

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    don't think this is happening though. They're always in the background, watching our movements.... We can only pretend they're not here. Look! I saw one hiding in the bushes over by the fence, trying to sneak over near the barbie. Ninjas! (looking around) They're everywhere! Quickly get out your hammers, I'm sure someone's going to jump over the fence wielding stillettos!
    Yes, indeed; better get out those hammers!

    All us females have been reading your posts.

    This thread is most enlightening.
    "It's so mysterious, the land of tears."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janine View Post
    Yes, indeed; better get out those hammers!

    All us females have been reading your posts.

    This thread is most enlightening.
    Uh oh. They are on to me.
    LET THERE BE LIGHT

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    I looked at the women's thread and they were talking about handbags. It didn't seem that interesting to me. Why are we men so interesting to women?
    Last edited by Silas Thorne; 04-15-2009 at 11:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silas Thorne View Post
    All us females have been reading your posts.

    yes, but 'all your base are belong to us!'
    What say? don't get that, sorry something lost in the translation....


    uh um, Virgil, definitely....like I said 'enlightening' in here. I bet a lot of you guy's who are married or have girlfriends have eyes that don't quite match by now, since one eye wanders.

    Quote Originally Posted by Silas Thorne View Post
    I looked at the women's thread and they were talking about handbags. It didn't seem that interesting to me. Why are we men so interesting to women?
    Silas, some men carry handbags!

    Answer to question: because you guys are so incredibly laughable!
    "It's so mysterious, the land of tears."

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