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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Bean View Post
    George Gissing is a Victorian writer who was very influential in his day and in some ways is a precursor to George Orwell . His own life is as astonishing as any of his novels and it is unbelievable that he has received scant attention on this forum condsidering what a major figure he is in Victorian Literature.
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    You might try "Wadsley Jack" by Reuben Hallam, circa 1881. It does have the disadvantage of being written in a Yorkshire dialect, but it gives a fascinating insight into Victorian life, especially in one of the more deprived areas of Englan. It is available on E-Bay and other places. Other than that, tedious though it may well be, dear old Dickens!!
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    two very good books on victorian literature i would recommend are:

    1. The Nineteenth-Century Novel: A Critical Reader by Stephan Reader (ed.)

    2. A Companion to the Victorian Novel by Patrick Brantlinger
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    I would try some of the Brontes' work for sure. Their style is very modern compared to some other authors of the time, and they deal with popular themes. Jane Eyre or the Tenant of Wildfell Hall would be my first suggestion.

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    Lewis Carroll might be more to your liking and it doesn't hurt that work is available just about everywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikkit View Post
    I have to do a project in my grade 12 english class on victorian literature, and I have to do an essay on it. The essay is this: I have to come up with the "themes" of victorian literature (like what makes the piece victorian, the charactersitics of victorian literature) and use examples from victorian books and poems to "prove" or support the themes. I am finding difficutly finding themes and books or poems with the themes in them.. I am wondering if anyone knows Anything about victorian literature?? Any help would be SOOO gladly appreciated!!!! Thanks!!!!!!!!
    There is a lot of Victorian literature out there so you really should not be having any problems. Also, if there is a book, there is a sparknote/pinkmonkey/whatever site you use that can give you themes/story plot or whatever. So basically go to google.com then type in "Victorian Literature" the wikipedia site that comes up will help (do not use it in your paper) it has a whole section that says "novelists" and it will give you some people to go with. I definately suggest Thackeray...but choose whoever you want.

    Either, you should not be having problems. Google and a little bit of effort can help with that.

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    Ok guys so what definitive themes do we have so far?

    - Position of women in society.
    - Class differences.
    - Struggle of the artist.
    - Industrialisation.

    Any more?

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    The later Victorian writers were IMO very different from the early ones. I believe the Victorian novel emerged as (partially) a reaction against Romanticism, but their themes became more complicated as time went on.

    One of the themes that really characterizes a Victorian novel for me is a deep skepticism (sometimes to the point of satire) of upper class values and Christianity. Also, shock value. Carlyle, Dickens, and Wilde jump to mind.

    Also, I think the later Victorians started exploring the human psyche. I'm thinking of the Bronte sisters, Robert Browning's dramatic monologue poems, Robert Louis Stevenson, and Wilde's Dorian Gray.

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    I remember a good lecture on Dickens I once attended. The lecturer spoke about the 'terror of being de-classed' which permeates both his novels and much of Victorian literature. Those with money lived in constant fear of losing it and being cast down into the brutal, savage world of the underclass- particularly in London, which was, at the time, the largest city that had ever existed.
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    If you could help me out I'd be greatly appreciative - do you have any good novels/poetry that link to the sacredness of nature and how industrialism destroys it?
    So far I've got some Gerald Manley Hopkins poetry, loosely Arnold's Culture and Anarchy (industrialism destroys culture), and I guess Conrad's The Secret Agent (industrialism is a breeding ground for evil).
    However I really need more about the savagery of industrialism wrecking nature. Help would be loved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oblivion252 View Post
    However I really need more about the savagery of industrialism wrecking nature. Help would be loved.
    How about Lord of the Rings? Tolkein shows the forest's Ents forced to leave their home because of Saruman's building of fortresses for the sake of war.

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    One important thing about Victorian literature was that it was, in many ways, the final triumph of the novel over older forms. Before the Industrial Revolution, poetry was far more common than prose. Today however, prose is much more widely read, and the novel is something of a "staple" form of literature. This dominance of the novel really came into full force during the Industrial Revolution, largely thanks to a growing middle class and the printing press.

    Prior to the Restoration, owning a book was unheard of amongst anyone who wasn't an aristocrat. If we factor in the cost of inflation and convert our currency, the cost of Matthew Lewis' [I]The Monk[I] would have cost the current equivalent of around USD3000. Books were unaffordable before the Victorian age, and public libraries were at best a novelty concept.

    As the Victorian era rolled around and books became accessible however, the growing middle class audience began to demand literature that was accessible to them. They weren't really interested in what seemed, to them at least, to be flighty and escapist poems about lions and lambs or ancient Mariners. They greatly preferred the prose form over poetry, and publishers naturally responded.

    As it became apparent which way the winds were blowing (novelists got published, poets starved) the number of novel writers began to drastically outnumber the poets. Consequently, the best and most influential literature of the Victorian era tended to be novels more often than poetry.

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    I find that the primary emphasis in Victorian literature is on didatic value-- particularly in Victorian fairytales, which make very interesting reading and can be read in a short amount of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilde woman View Post
    How about Lord of the Rings? Tolkein shows the forest's Ents forced to leave their home because of Saruman's building of fortresses for the sake of war.
    Ah yeh, I forgot to mention it has to be Victorian haha!
    Good example though thanks.
    Any ideas of a Victorian example?

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