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  • yes, but only if they get sterilized

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Thread: should incest between brothers and sisters be legal?

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    No, without the exclam mark ... (Which was why I didn't vote.)

    The Torah forbids it. So do the Greeks. & The Romans ... Is there any legislator in their mind that thinks it to be healthy?!

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    BAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAhA

    Oh this thread is hilarious.

    Incest is unnatural. Period.

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    I simply just... see it as wrong.

    Plus, I'm sure science can show that there are definitely SOME medical conditions that can be attributed to incest.

    But I don't really know.
    I just think it's, for lack of a better work, icky.
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    This is an interesting situation because you'd think, all past incidents involving 'forced' incest aside, that two consenting adults have the right to participate in a sexual act that does not harm any other parties. But as others have mentioned there are repercussions to incest, like genetic deformities. I hate using children as a reason to choose one side of an issue, because it's so trite and abused in this society, however I think this is one situation where we must think of children. Just because two adults want to indulge in their sexual fantasies does not mean a child they bring into the world should suffer for it. Plus, I don't think its in anyones best interest to bring genetically inferior human beings into the world (on purpose).

    Obviously, not all couples who engage in incest are going to reproduce -- they would ideally use protection -- but not every one of them will. And sterilization does not seem viable to me. If a couple were to engage in incest and didn't want to have a child they would use a condom. So, I think incest should be illegal. But my main gripe with the OP's question is that, even if a law was passed, consensual couples would probably still engage in incest. It's not like killing a bunch of people where it's obvious that you've committed a crime -- it's behind closed doors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by librarius_qui View Post
    No, without the exclam mark ... (Which was why I didn't vote.)

    The Torah forbids it. So do the Greeks. & The Romans ... Is there any legislator in their mind that thinks it to be healthy?!
    I am with Lib here NO!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joreads View Post
    I am with Lib here NO!
    If you read through the thread you will see that some people amazingly support it. Unbelievable. Moral relativism at its worst.
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    I can't believe this got woken up!

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    I think it's great! We can all slowly devolve back into fish people, like in the stories of the great prophet H.P. Lovecraft.

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    And bring back lead pipes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgil View Post
    If you read through the thread you will see that some people amazingly support it. Unbelievable. Moral relativism at its worst.
    Oh I didn't go to far back and now I am glad that I didn't
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joreads View Post
    Oh I didn't go to far back and now I am glad that I didn't
    Yeah it isn't worth it. We never got anywhere, there was a reason we all stopped discussing it!!

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    oh and I also voted: No, exclamation mark.

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    Wow this thread got nasty a long time ago, Im surprised it wasn't locked!

    I'll just say that the Genetics homework sitting in front of me is saying it might not be such a good idea...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgil View Post
    Oh Sleepy, please. How repulsive to even think this. Come on.
    I'm totally with you. Has everyone gone bonkers? Eugh.

    My question - once you start thinking incest between siblings is 'ok' 'tolerable' - then next you'll be saying father/daughter mother/son is ok too. And no, I'm not exaggerating. I mean why not if you think its ok between siblings? There are no logical arguments against it because it has nothing to do with logic in the first place! I didn't no threads like this existed. Wow.
    Last edited by optimisticnad; 01-21-2009 at 04:52 PM.
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    This is very interesting indeed.

    Incest used to be common practice. According to the Bible, all Mankind is the product of an incestuous relationship, since Adam and Eve were the only humans and, moreover, had no daughters. In Odyssey, the keeper of the winds, if I remember correctly, had 12 sons and daughters, all of which were intermarried. Up until some centuries ago, the typical aristocratic family was essentially a group of inbreds.

    But as you’ve said, genetics-wise, incest is a bad idea. It weakens us, deforms us, under the ruthless “survival of the fittest” rule we wouldn’t have stood a chance back when utmost physical health was vital to our existence.

    To prevent this, we have attached to incest an incredibly powerful stigma (the most powerful one, alongside that attached to rape) in order to disencourage us from practicing it. That’s why we feel such visceral disgust when the very topic of “incest” is brought about”.

    I’m happy to see that the proposal for decriminalisation of incest was met with such fierce resistance, but all I want is you to understand exactly why you feel this way. You can’t just say it’s wrong. It’s important to at least realise a) that we react like this because we’re influenced by an inhibiting stigma, and b) why does the stigma exist.

    Having said that, I’d vote like Lib would: no. Not no with exclamation mark, because that would be my irrational response to it, but no all the same, for the abovementioned reasons.
    Last edited by kandaurov; 01-21-2009 at 05:43 PM. Reason: typo

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