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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgil View Post
    Oh yes, you did point thaat out and I do remember. I think she's confused by Dostevsky because he's also anti intellectual and captures a blood vitality.
    I don't know if Dostoevsky really captures a "bloody vitality," but I would agree with the anti-intellectual part. The princess appears to recognize only the ideal perception of reality--rather than its immediate experience. Writers like Lawrence and Dosdoevsky probably would look down upon this. When the narrator tells us that she doesn't understand Dosdoevsky, we probably should take this as meaning that she also doesn't get Lawrence and what he's trying to do in this story. It's a bit of irony. Later, she's led to New Mexico where she tries to experience these things first-hand, but still is unable to understand what's going on.
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    I think that is a good point, Quark, I would agree mostly with what you said.

    Funny, Lawrence liked D first time he read him, then after repeated readings, he deeply criticised the author. Now I believe he liked best of all his books "The Idiot" - the novel we recently discussed on here. It was a good book and very symbolic, especially with the Christ-like figure. Interesting to me that L used a reference to D in this story.

    Hey, I love your new signature quote - Chekhov "Dreams" eh? Did we read and discuss "Dreams" yet? duh, I forget. Is "Dreams" a short story? I seem to vaguely recall it.

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    I think Dreams was the last story we just did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Muse View Post
    I think Dreams was the last story we just did.
    Was it really? Geez, now I can't recall a thing about it...that is strange...did I participate in that discussion?
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    Yes you did. It was the one with the Tramp who was going to be exiled, and he was talking to the two constables, walking through the damp mashy land

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Muse View Post
    Yes you did. It was the one with the Tramp who was going to be exiled, and he was talking to the two constables, walking through the damp mashy land
    Oh yeah, now it came back to me. It didn't have much plot so that is probably why I forgot it. Thanks for refreshing my poor memory. Right at present it is a wonder I can think clearly at all; been going through a family crisis. For now I don't think I can post much more in this thread but I will try my best when I can.
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    Are we ready for the next section?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgil View Post
    Are we ready for the next section?
    Certainly

    Quote Originally Posted by Janine View Post
    Funny, Lawrence liked D first time he read him, then after repeated readings, he deeply criticised the author. Now I believe he liked best of all his books "The Idiot" - the novel we recently discussed on here. It was a good book and very symbolic, especially with the Christ-like figure. Interesting to me that L used a reference to D in this story.
    Why the change of heart? I can see why he would like Dostoevsky, but why wouldn't he? Was it the bloodless, virginal heroes? I think L would probably like Dmitri from The Brothers Karamazov, but, of course, he isn't the hero.

    It's too bad I missed that discussion on "The Idiot." I reread it a couple of weeks ago. I'll have to review what was said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Janine View Post
    Hey, I love your new signature quote - Chekhov "Dreams" eh? Did we read and discuss "Dreams" yet? duh, I forget. Is "Dreams" a short story? I seem to vaguely recall it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Muse View Post
    I think Dreams was the last story we just did.
    DM is right. We read that story a few months ago. I've just been too lazy to change my signature.

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    did I participate in that discussion?
    Yes, but apparently you were in a haze the whole time.

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    BTW, did you get the CD's yet in the mail?
    I picked them up a few days ago. They will come in quite handy on the long car drive up to Michigan that I have take later next week. Thanks again, and nice handwriting--very, very cursive--by the way.
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    [quote]Why the change of heart? I can see why he would like Dostoevsky, but why wouldn't he? Was it the bloodless, virginal heroes? I think L would probably like Dmitri from The Brothers Karamazov, but, of course, he isn't the hero.

    Not sure now, Quark. I read it in his Essay book on Literature. I own the book now so I will have to check it out and get back to you. Like anything else Lawrence, his reasons were pretty complicated. Probably was the 'bloodless, virginal heroes'...haha - that is a good way of stating it. He sort of hated the Grand Inquisitor I think but I didn't read those books so I didn't fully comprehend what he was getting at. I will get back to you on it someday when I read those essays.

    It's too bad I missed that discussion on "The Idiot." I reread it a couple of weeks ago. I'll have to review what was said.
    Yeah, that was a good book and a good discussion, as well.

    DM is right. We read that story a few months ago. I've just been too lazy to change my signature.
    Oh, that is true; you did have that signature back then, but I still like it.

    Yes, but apparently you were in a haze the whole time.
    Truly I believe I was, or was it a fog?

    I picked them up a few days ago. They will come in quite handy on the long car drive up to Michigan that I have take later next week. Thanks again, and nice handwriting--very, very cursive--by the way.
    Great! They would be neat to listen to in the car. I had not thought of that before. I usually listen to them on headphones so I concentrate really well; except often I fall asleep and wake up somewhere way advanced and then don't know at what point I dozed off...sort of a pain when that happens. Hope you enjoy the stories on CD...haha...I always think I write sloppy on those discs...thanks, I can write nicer cursive than that really. It tends to be problematic writing on slippery plastic.

    Mr. Branagh played "Ivanov" on stage recently in London; you can see some stills on video clips on Youtube. It looked to be a very good play/production. One of the videos has some of the audio included. Sounds like an interesting story/play. Ever read it, Quark? Chekhov wrote it when he was very young, I understand from the discussion panel on the one video clip - may have said 17. Wow, to have such talent!
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    Ok, I know you've been dying for the next section.

    "Better all go back, and come again another day," said Romero--non-committal.

    "There will never be another day," cried the Princess. "I want to go on."

    She looked at him square in the eyes, and met the spark in his eye.

    He raised his shoulders slightly.

    "If you want it," he said. "I'll go on with you. But Miss Cummins can ride my horse to the end of the canyon, and I lead the buckskin. Then I come back to you."

    It was arranged so. Miss Cummins had her saddle put on Romero's black horse, Romero took the buckskin's bridle, and they started back. The Princess rode very slowly on, upwards, alone. She was at first so angry with Miss Cummins that she was blind to everything else. She just let her mare follow her own inclinations.

    The peculiar spell of anger carried the Princess on, almost unconscious, for an hour or so. And by this time she was beginning to climb pretty high. Her horse walked steadily all the time. They emerged on a bare slope, and the trail wound through frail aspen stems. Here a wind swept, and some of the aspens were already bare. Others were fluttering their discs of pure, solid yellow leaves, so nearly like petals, while the slope ahead was one soft, glowing fleece of daffodil yellow; fleecy like a golden foxskin, and yellow as daffodils alive in the wind and the high mountain sun.

    She paused and looked back. The near great slopes were mottled with gold and the dark hue of spruce, like some unsinged eagle, and the light lay gleaming upon them. Away through the gap of the canyon she could see the pale blue of the egg-like desert, with the crumpled dark crack of the Rio Grande Canyon. And far, far off, the blue mountains like a fence of angels on the horizon.

    And she thought of her adventure. She was going on alone with Romero. But then she was very sure of herself, and Romero was not the kind of man to do anything to her against her will. This was her first thought. And she just had a fixed desire to go over the brim of the mountains, to look into the inner chaos of the Rockies. And she wanted to go with Romero, because he had some peculiar kinship with her; there was some peculiar link between the two of them. Miss Cummins anyhow would have been only a discordant note.

    She rode on, and emerged at length in the lap of the summit. Beyond her was a great concave of stone and stark, dead-grey trees, where the mountain ended against the sky. But nearer was the dense black, bristling spruce, and at her feet was the lap of the summit, a flat little valley of sere grass and quiet-standing yellow aspens, the stream trickling like a thread across.

    It was a little valley or shell from which the stream was gently poured into the lower rocks and trees of the canyon. Around her was a fairy-like gentleness, the delicate sere grass, the groves of delicate-stemmed aspens dropping their flakes of bright yellow. And the delicate, quick little stream threading through the wild, sere grass.

    Here one might expect deer and fawns and wild things, as in a little paradise. Here she was to wait for Romero, and they were to have lunch.

    She unfastened her saddle and pulled it to the ground with a crash, letting her horse wander with a long rope. How beautiful Tansy looked, sorrel, among the yellow leaves that lay like a patina on the sere ground. The Princess herself wore a fleecy sweater of a pale, sere buff, like the grass, and riding-breeches of a pure orange-tawny colour. She felt quite in the picture.

    From her saddle-pouches she took the packages of lunch, spread a little cloth, and sat to wait for Romero. Then she made a little fire. Then she ate a devilled egg. Then she ran after Tansy, who was straying across-stream. Then she sat in the sun, in the stillness near the aspens, and waited.

    The sky was blue. Her little alp was soft and delicate as fairy-land. But beyond and up jutted the great slopes, dark with the pointed feathers of spruce, bristling with grey dead trees among grey rock, or dappled with dark and gold. The beautiful, but fierce, heavy cruel mountains, with their moments of tenderness.

    She saw Tansy start, and begin to run. Two ghost-like figures on horseback emerged from the black of the spruce across the stream. It was two Indians on horseback, swathed like seated mummies in their pale-grey cotton blankets. Their guns jutted beyond the saddles. They rode straight towards her, to her thread of smoke.

    As they came near, they unswathed themselves and greeted her, looking at her curiously from their dark eyes. Their black hair was somewhat untidy, the long rolled plaits on their shoulders were soiled. They looked tired.

    They got down from their horses near her little fire--a camp was a camp--swathed their blankets round their hips, pulled the saddles from their ponies and turned them loose, then sat down. One was a young Indian whom she had met before, the other was an older man.

    "You all alone?" said the younger man.

    "Romero will be here in a minute," she said, glancing back along the trail.

    "Ah, Romero! You with him? Where are you going?"

    "Round the ridge," she said. "Where are you going?"

    "We going down to Pueblo."

    "Been out hunting? How long have you been out?"

    "Yes. Been out five days." The young Indian gave a little meaningless laugh.

    "Got anything?"

    "No. We see tracks of two deer--but not got nothing."

    The Princess noticed a suspicious-looking bulk under one of the saddles--surely a folded-up deer. But she said nothing.

    "You must have been cold," she said.

    "Yes, very cold in the night. And hungry. Got nothing to eat since yesterday. Eat it all up." And again he laughed his little meaningless laugh. Under their dark skins, the two men looked peaked and hungry. The Princess rummaged for food among the saddle-bags. There was a lump of bacon--the regular stand-back--and some bread. She gave them this, and they began toasting slices of it on long sticks at the fire. Such was the little camp Romero saw as he rode down the slope: the Princess in her orange breeches, her head tied in a blue-and-brown silk kerchief, sitting opposite the two dark-headed Indians across the camp-fire, while one of the Indians was leaning forward toasting bacon, his two plaits of braid-hair dangling as if wearily.

    Romero rode up, his face expressionless. The Indians greeted him in Spanish. He unsaddled his horse, took food from the bags, and sat down at the camp to eat. The Princess went to the stream for water, and to wash her hands.

    "Got coffee?" asked the Indians.

    "No coffee this outfit," said Romero.

    They lingered an hour or more in the warm midday sun. Then Romero saddled the horses. The Indians still squatted by the fire. Romero and the Princess rode away, calling Adios! to the Indians over the stream and into the dense spruce whence two strange figures had emerged.
    I found this a fascinating passage. First Lawrence has Romero leave the scene to go with Miss Cummins. He could have created a justification for Misss Cummins to go back alone, but he doesn't. He has Dollie go on alone. Such a facinating passage of her alone. Here look at it carefully:
    The peculiar spell of anger carried the Princess on, almost unconscious, for an hour or so. And by this time she was beginning to climb pretty high. Her horse walked steadily all the time. They emerged on a bare slope, and the trail wound through frail aspen stems. Here a wind swept, and some of the aspens were already bare. Others were fluttering their discs of pure, solid yellow leaves, so nearly like petals, while the slope ahead was one soft, glowing fleece of daffodil yellow; fleecy like a golden foxskin, and yellow as daffodils alive in the wind and the high mountain sun.

    She paused and looked back. The near great slopes were mottled with gold and the dark hue of spruce, like some unsinged eagle, and the light lay gleaming upon them. Away through the gap of the canyon she could see the pale blue of the egg-like desert, with the crumpled dark crack of the Rio Grande Canyon. And far, far off, the blue mountains like a fence of angels on the horizon.
    I noticed the focus on the color yellow and wonder if there is any significance. Certainly the flowers alive in the inert and lifeless canyon is striking and I think a symbol of Lawrence's paradisial ideal. They have no will and everything about the Princess has been about her will and how she hated to be "thwarted." Lawrence continues:
    And she thought of her adventure. She was going on alone with Romero. But then she was very sure of herself, and Romero was not the kind of man to do anything to her against her will. This was her first thought. And she just had a fixed desire to go over the brim of the mountains, to look into the inner chaos of the Rockies. And she wanted to go with Romero, because he had some peculiar kinship with her; there was some peculiar link between the two of them. Miss Cummins anyhow would have been only a discordant note.

    She rode on, and emerged at length in the lap of the summit. Beyond her was a great concave of stone and stark, dead-grey trees, where the mountain ended against the sky. But nearer was the dense black, bristling spruce, and at her feet was the lap of the summit, a flat little valley of sere grass and quiet-standing yellow aspens, the stream trickling like a thread across.
    Notice how she thinks her will is paramount, and she continues to exert it with her "fixed desire to go over the brim of the mountains." And Lawrence continues:
    It was a little valley or shell from which the stream was gently poured into the lower rocks and trees of the canyon. Around her was a fairy-like gentleness, the delicate sere grass, the groves of delicate-stemmed aspens dropping their flakes of bright yellow. And the delicate, quick little stream threading through the wild, sere grass.

    Here one might expect deer and fawns and wild things, as in a little paradise. Here she was to wait for Romero, and they were to have lunch.
    Here we get the direct announcement of a paradise, even with a suggestion of the super natural, faires. And she makes a little camp here and the setting imposes on her:
    The sky was blue. Her little alp was soft and delicate as fairy-land. But beyond and up jutted the great slopes, dark with the pointed feathers of spruce, bristling with grey dead trees among grey rock, or dappled with dark and gold. The beautiful, but fierce, heavy cruel mountains, with their moments of tenderness.
    I think the mountains, with their cruelty and tenderness, are looking down on her and I think later take on even more importance, but here I think Lawrence is setting us up for a relationship between Dollie and the mountains, the mountains being dieties in which she just doesn't understand the language.

    Other interesting things from this passage? I found the way Romero responds to her after she insists on going on curious:
    "There will never be another day," cried the Princess. "I want to go on."

    She looked at him square in the eyes, and met the spark in his eye.

    He raised his shoulders slightly.

    "If you want it," he said. "I'll go on with you...
    Normally someone would say "if you want to," but I think there is a sexual double entedre in the way Lawrence has Romero phrase it. And she doesn't get it.

    I also found curious the situation between the two Indians who come upon her camp. It strikes me that this could have been a dangerous situation for a woman alone and they could have taken advantage of her and perhaps would have if Romero wasn't mentioned and if he didn't show up shortly. I put this into a Lawrence context of another story he wrote the same year as this called "The Woman Who Rode Away," a story of a woman taken prisoner by an group of Indians, one of the truely great short stories ever written if you ask me. Again this scene with the Indians here serves no structural purpose to the story. It could have been left out and it wouldn't have mattered, but I think it adds thematic material: the sense of danger, the native people living off the wild, the masculine culture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgil View Post
    Ok, I know you've been dying for the next section.
    Oh yeah, just dying for you to post this. Tomorrow is Christmas Eve you know. I am suppose to be able to think right now? I answer this as best I can.

    I found this a fascinating passage. First Lawrence has Romero leave the scene to go with Miss Cummins. He could have created a justification for Misss Cummins to go back alone, but he doesn't. He has Dollie go on alone. Such a facinating passage of her alone. Here look at it carefully:
    I thought that was some of the most beautiful writing I ever read from Lawrence - descriptive. Don't you perceive that the 'yellow' corresponds to the sun and the warmth that Lawrence craved? Also, the way the leaves are fluttering and falling away from the tree reminds me of a fallen or scattered sort of sunlight. I do think the color very significant and then also referring to the area looking like daffodils. How sunny a daffodil is. I think she is basking in sunlight and nature when she comes to that glen - where she expects to have this romantic picnic with Romero, not what he has in-mind. Once again, I don't picture this terrain the way you showed it in your Grand Canyon photos. I see it more like a combination of high ground with woodlands and plenty of aspen trees. I have encountered this type of place out west and it was a gradual climb, not so severe as in the Grand Canyon but still it can be quite treacherous. I still must dig up those photos of NM and the areas around the ranch...then you will see what I mean...there were meadows there and probably the terrain has more variations and not just bare granite.

    I noticed the focus on the color yellow and wonder if there is any significance. Certainly the flowers alive in the inert and lifeless canyon is striking and I think a symbol of Lawrence's paradisial ideal. They have no will and everything about the Princess has been about her will and how she hated to be "thwarted." Lawrence continues:
    I think the yellow refers to sun, sunlight, brightness, flowers, life as opposed to death. Yes, definitely a symbol of 'Lawrence's paradisial ideal'...good thought. Yes, and this story certainly does have a great deal to do with 'will'. Right, she 'hated to be thwarted' and she remained so even to the end of this story.

    Notice how she thinks her will is paramount, and she continues to exert it with her "fixed desire to go over the brim of the mountains." And Lawrence continues:
    Well, her father built her up to think it was paramount. She learned it at a very early age. One cannot really blame her thinking. It is distorted to a degree; I think Lawrence is no condemning her but understanding her; otherwise why would he take the time in the beginning of this story to spend telling us of her early years and how she was shaped; how her thinking was formed?

    Here we get the direct announcement of a paradise, even with a suggestion of the super natural, faires. And she makes a little camp here and the setting imposes on her:
    Yes, very 'fairy-like' and at least temporarily a 'paradise' to her. Yes, I noticed the way the setting begins to impose itself on her. The setting is a character in itself....very threatening are the dark mountains. The sunny glen as a great contrast to dark menacing mountains...mountains in shadow.

    I think the mountains, with their cruelty and tenderness, are looking down on her and I think later take on even more importance, but here I think Lawrence is setting us up for a relationship between Dollie and the mountains, the mountains being dieties in which she just doesn't understand the language.
    True...she sees them as 'cruel' and yet 'tender'...now that is interesting. So does this mean she later sees Romero as 'cruel, but tender'?

    Other interesting things from this passage? I found the way Romero responds to her after she insists on going on curious:
    I didn't find it that curious. I think he was being cautious, in a way covering his own tracks, know what I mean? He may have sensed he was heading down a path of danger taking her into the mountains - crossing that thin line that had, up until now, existed between them.

    Normally someone would say "if you want to," but I think there is a sexual double entedre in the way Lawrence has Romero phrase it. And she doesn't get it.
    Yes, I thought the same thing. One has to really read carefully exactly how Lawrence writes the lines. That is significant I think. Again he is being cautious with her, asking all the right questions before-hand.

    I also found curious the situation between the two Indians who come upon her camp. It strikes me that this could have been a dangerous situation for a woman alone and they could have taken advantage of her and perhaps would have if Romero wasn't mentioned and if he didn't show up shortly. I put this into a Lawrence context of another story he wrote the same year as this called "The Woman Who Rode Away," a story of a woman taken prisoner by an group of Indians, one of the truely great short stories ever written if you ask me. Again this scene with the Indians here serves no structural purpose to the story. It could have been left out and it wouldn't have mattered, but I think it adds thematic material: the sense of danger, the native people living off the wild, the masculine culture.
    You know, I felt that built suspense and introduced the notion into our heads concerning real danger. Up until then one could say, things might be fine really but we realise that something strange is going to happen the closer we get to the top of the incline, the mountains. This reminds me of the mountains in "The Prussian Officer" except those were white with glistening cold snow, weren't they? Also, in WIL, the mountains become the cold deadly fate for Gerald. It seems that fate is driving the Princess onward and upward, too. She is drawn by her own desire to climb to the nature she wishes to experience, but in the end, it will be fatal to her...almost climbing to a sort of death - an emotional death...for Romero the death is physical, for the Princess she appears 'untouched', but I believe she experiences a full emotional death...as a woman she now is like a shell of emptiness...I don't know...does that make sense? I am a little tired out, so not sure I am making logical sense, at this point. It is just a thought - something to throw out there and see what you think.

    Added this today - 24th:
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    Everybody, have a great Christmas!
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    Hello, excuse the interruption but I was curious to whether there had been any discussion of his three novellas? my meaning being the compilation of The Fox, The Captain's Doll and The Ladybird.

    If you haven't - i must insist you read them. After reading Virgin and the Gypsy ( Gipsy? ) i was slightly put off Lawrence until I read the previously mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by limajean View Post
    Hello, excuse the interruption but I was curious to whether there had been any discussion of his three novellas? my meaning being the compilation of The Fox, The Captain's Doll and The Ladybird.

    If you haven't - i must insist you read them. After reading Virgin and the Gypsy ( Gipsy? ) i was slightly put off Lawrence until I read the previously mentioned.
    Oh we have not discussed those works limajean. I have read only The Fox of those four novellas. But I would love to read the other three and even The Fox again. In a few months we plan to read together and discuss The Rainbow. Perhaps you can join us.
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    Ahhh, well, when you do read the novellas, i'll sure have something to say.
    Maybe you could keep me posted?

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    Welcome limajean!

    Personally, I think it will be awhile before we do discuss those in this thread; we may even consider starting a 'novella' thread for Lawrence. In this thread we still have a number of his short stories to discuss. Lawrence wrote a ton of them.

    I recently saw the film that was based on "The Virgin and the Gypsy" and I did like it. I re-read the story not long ago. I loved "The Fox" and recently I read the novella/short story "Love Among the Haystakes". You might be interested in that read. I really enjoyed it a lot - more pastoral and from Lawrence early period, I believe. I don't think I ever read "Captain's Doll" or "The Ladybird". I had always planned on it but seems I didn't get to those yet. I have read most of Lawrence work and some twice now for our discussions.

    Just a suggestion, but when we do the next short story, why not join us for the discussion. I don't know if we will chose one next month or every other month. We have to talk it over since several of us also participate in the Chekhov short story thread; recently I suggested we alternate the stories and discussions.

    At anyrate, we will be sure to keep you informed.
    "It's so mysterious, the land of tears."

    Chapter 7, The Little Prince ~ Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

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