life doesnt need a meaning, until you find a religion
life doesnt need a meaning, until you find a religion
Originally Posted by billyjack
i totally agree with you , without a religion to guide us through, i think there wont be any meaning & goal in life.
"He is asleep. Though his mettle was sorely tried,
He lived, and when he lost his angel, died.
It happened calmly, on its own,
The way the night comes when day is done."
Life is not exclusive to us humans y' know.
The meaning of life is to search for it and to find it.
From Monty Python's the Meaning of Life
Exec #1: Item six on the agenda: "The Meaning of Life" Now uh, Harry, you've had some thoughts on this.
Exec #2: Yeah, I've had a team working on this over the past few weeks, and what we've come up with can be reduced to two fundamental concepts. One: People aren't wearing enough hats. Two: Matter is energy. In the universe there are many energy fields which we cannot normally perceive. Some energies have a spiritual source which act upon a person's soul. However, this "soul" does not exist ab initio as orthodox Christianity teaches; it has to be brought into existence by a process of guided self-observation. However, this is rarely achieved owing to man's unique ability to be distracted from spiritual matters by everyday trivia.
Exec #3: What was that about hats again?
Exec #2: Oh, Uh... people aren't wearing enough.
Exec #1: Is this true?
Exec #4: Certainly. Hat sales have increased but not pari passu, as our research...
Exec #3: [Interrupting] "Not wearing enough"? enough for what purpose?
Exec #5: Can I just ask, with reference to your second point, when you say souls don't develop because people become distracted...
[looking out window]
Can a meaningless life have a meaningful journey? As for necessity of religion for having meaning and goal in life, being a muslim I guess i have to agree with that statement but as a wanna be logician i am forced to question the universality of the statement on the ground that atheists may question it, LOL.
Whatever the meaning of life may be, I believe a good direction in actually coming to terms with that abstraction, would be to mindfully not allow yourself to believe anything you don't truly want to believe.
at the same time
"But it is not what we receive in this life but what we are to others that provide the much-desired understanding of our purpose in living." --previous poseter. To concentrate on giving.
at the same time
Believing in your will--and that it will get you to your desired result. Acknowledging that things seem to go fast when you think back about them, and because of this, time almost seems not to exist at all. Its your mind and IT continually slicing through an imaginary barrier--not necessarily time.
Finally--laughing at yourself will get you far in life. Instead of retreating from a philosophy you wish to see through to an end-- laughing may be your last line of defense to spur you to take the few more steps in uncharted territory.
I believe these are the basic 'weapons' we have to seek and possible find (if nothing else) a small piece of a remote hope of a promising reality
Ok ... Human life, therefore, has something to do with religion, then ...
A cat's hasn't.
Furball...
"The Lord works from the inside out. The world works from the outside in. The world would take people out of the slums. Christ takes the slums out of the people and then they take themselves out of the slums. Christ changes men, who then changes their environment. The world would shape human behavior, but Christ can change human nature." ~ Ezra Taft Benson
when i was young, it seemed that life was so wonderful,
a miracle, oh it was beautiful, magical.
and all the birds in the trees, well theyd be singing so happily,
joyfully, playfully watching me.
but then they sent me away to teach me how to be sensible,
logical, responsible, practical.
and they showed me a world where i could be so dependable,
clinical, intellectual, cynical.
now watch what you say or theyll be calling you a radical,
liberal, fanatical, criminal.
wont you sign up your name, wed like to feel youre
acceptable, respectable, presentable, a vegetable!
You stopped playing ... You should try playmobil!
I was alone in my room feeling sorry for myself
Call me a prophet of doom, I could think of nothing else
I found a freudian book gathering dust upon my shelf
I thought I'll give it a look, would it hurt or would it help ?
Freudiana, do you want to be somebody ?
Freudiana, do you want to change the world ?
I met the wolfman and the ratman, anna-o and little hans
They were walking on a tightrope, I never thought they had a chance
And then a hand reached out to hold them just before they tumbled down
But I was standing in a quicksand and I could not feel the ground
Freudiana, do you want to be somebody ?
Freudiana, do you want to change the world ?
I look back and try to find the part of me I don't know
I won't stop till I see the truth. there's such a long way to go
I saw a picture of a stranger but I didn't understand
He had a ring around his finger and something burning in his hand
And I wanted him to teach me and I needed to believe
But the shadows that he threw me were intended to deceive
Freudiana, do you want to be somebody ?
Freudiana, do you want to change the world ?
Everybudy did understand the "meaning of life" as the meaning of our life, humans as if other lifes exist they are not importent to mention.
What is the meaning of the rice life? have any meaning ?
In my opinion yes, as is the food for a big part of humanity , mainly.
And if we , humans, are not the last form of life in the cosmos ?
As I can understand things we can understand what is on our level but this don't include an exterior meaning;
perhaps(supposition) there are lifes who nourish themselves from our thaughts , how possibly can we know that as it is exterior to our life?
I know , I render the idea in a imperfect form,but I hope you can understand what I want to say;
the meaning of our lifes can be, perhaps,found outside our lifes.
And if the question is related to the life in general, all form of life;
perhaps the life is a brilliant poem in a sad univers, I can say.
weltanschauung , your poem and image render a vision of what our life can be,
Nicolai I, your poem and image have something of perfection, they complete each other as the answer complete the question
I don't pretend that I can understand what did inspire you and what did you want to say exactly but it did inspire me and I did understand in my way this poeme related to this image (it remembers me the book covers from Gallimard but also a person ,2be1, and this make me think , brilliant poem and answer.
As hope and deception are part of life the two poems are good unswers
What is the meaning of life for me? :
we prepare for the after life, whatever it will be, we don't know and don't have to know.
Last edited by peregria; 11-26-2008 at 04:20 PM.
d'oh, I apologize, I didn't write that; it's a song by the Alan Parson's Project. weltanschauung didn't write the one he posted either, that's a song too I forget who it's by.. glad you liked the lyrics and sorry for not posting the composer of them. The image is also from an album or something like this, from the same band.
Yes, I agree with you. Life has no meaning. It is just a random error of nature that carbon-based life flowered on earth. This is it and nothing else. All our morals are fake. Love and hate are all illusions. Death and birth are all the same.
‘Tis nothing in this mundane illusion you dementedly seek,
Also after death, there’s neither Gehenna nor any golden peak.
- Parvez Ahmed
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