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    War Poetry

    I was just looking back at lolacola's post about Dulce et Decorum est and wondered if any more litnetters have a favourite war poem. I have lots, particularly ones from WW1. I'll start with a few favourites, varying in tone from the angry and sardonic ones of Sassoon, to the idealistic one of Brooke, which was written early on in the war, before the realism had kicked in.

    The General

    'Good-morning; good-morning!' the General said
    When we met him last week on our way to the line.
    Now the soldiers he smiled at are most of 'em dead,
    And we're cursing his staff for incompetent swine.
    'He's a cheery old card,' grunted Harry to Jack
    As they slogged up to Arras with rifle and pack...
    But he did for them both by his plan of attack.

    Siegfried Sassoon

    Base Details

    If I were fierce, and bald, and short of breath
    I'd live with scarlet Majors at the Base,
    And speed glum heroes up the line to death.
    You'd see me with my puffy petulant face,
    Guzzling and gulping in the best hotel,
    Reading the Roll of Honour. "Poor young chap,"
    I'd say -- "I used to know his father well;
    Yes, we've lost heavily in this last scrap."
    And when the war is done and youth stone dead,
    I'd toddle safely home and die -- in bed.

    Siegfried Sassoon

    Suicide in the Trenches

    I knew a simple soldier boy
    Who grinned at life in empty joy,
    Slept soundly through the lonesome dark,
    And whistled early with the lark.

    In winter trenches, cowed and glum,
    With crumps and lice and lack of rum,
    He put a bullet through his brain.
    No one spoke of him again.

    You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
    Who cheer when soldier lads march by,
    Sneak home and pray you'll never know
    The hell where youth and laughter go.

    Siegfried Sassoon

    To Any Dead Officer

    Well, how are things in Heaven? I wish you’d say,
    Because I’d like to know that you’re all right.
    Tell me, have you found everlasting day,
    Or been sucked in by everlasting night?
    For when I shut my eyes your face shows plain;
    I hear you make some cheery old remark—
    I can rebuild you in my brain,
    Though you’ve gone out patrolling in the dark.

    You hated tours of trenches; you were proud
    Of nothing more than having good years to spend;
    Longed to get home and join the careless crowd
    Of chaps who work in peace with Time for friend.
    That’s all washed out now. You’re beyond the wire:
    No earthly chance can send you crawling back;
    You’ve finished with machine-gun fire—
    Knocked over in a hopeless dud-attack.

    Somehow I always thought you’d get done in,
    Because you were so desperate keen to live:
    You were all out to try and save your skin,
    Well knowing how much the world had got to give.
    You joked at shells and talked the usual ‘shop,’
    Stuck to your dirty job and did it fine:
    With ‘Jesus Christ! when will it stop?
    Three years ... It’s hell unless we break their line.’

    So when they told me you’d been left for dead
    I wouldn’t believe them, feeling it must be true.
    Next week the bloody Roll of Honour said
    ‘Wounded and missing’—(That’s the thing to do
    When lads are left in shell-holes dying slow,
    With nothing but blank sky and wounds that ache,
    Moaning for water till they know
    It’s night, and then it’s not worth while to wake!)

    . . . .
    Good-bye, old lad! Remember me to God,
    And tell Him that our Politicians swear
    They won’t give in till Prussian Rule’s been trod
    Under the Heel of England ... Are you there?...
    Yes ... and the War won’t end for at least two years;
    But we’ve got stacks of men ... I’m blind with tears,
    Staring into the dark. Cheerio!
    I wish they’d killed you in a decent show.

    Siegfried Sassoon

    Anthem for Doomed Youth

    What passing-bells for these who die as cattle?
    -Only the monstrous anger of the guns.
    Only the stuttering rifles' rapid rattle
    Can patter out their hasty orisons.
    No mockeries now for them; no prayers nor bells;
    Nor any voice of mourning save the choirs,-
    The shrill, demented choirs of wailing shells;
    And bugles calling for them from sad shires.


    What candles may be held to speed them all?
    Not in the hands of boys but in their eyes
    Shall shine the holy glimmers of good-byes.
    The pallor of girls' brows shall be their pall;
    Their flowers the tenderness of patient minds,
    And each slow dusk a drawing-down of blinds.

    Wilfred Owen

    Dulce Et Decorum Est

    Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
    Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
    Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs
    And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
    Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots
    But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
    Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
    Of tired, outstripped Five-Nines that dropped behind.


    Gas! Gas! Quick, boys!-An ecstasy of fumbling,
    Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time;
    But someone still was yelling out and stumbling
    And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime...
    Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light,
    As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.


    In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,
    He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.


    If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
    Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
    And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
    His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;
    If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
    Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
    Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
    Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,-
    My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
    To children ardent for some desperate glory,
    The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
    Pro patria mori.

    Wilfred Owen

    Disabled

    He sat in a wheeled chair, waiting for dark,
    And shivered in his ghastly suit of grey,
    Legless, sewn short at elbow. Through the park
    Voices of boys rang saddening like a hymn,
    Voices of play and pleasure after day,
    Till gathering sleep had mothered them from him.


    About this time Town used to swing so gay
    When glow-lamps budded in the light blue trees,
    And girls glanced lovelier as the air grew dim,-
    In the old times, before he threw away his knees.
    Now he will never feel again how slim
    Girls' waists are, or how warm their subtle hands.
    All of them touch him like some queer disease.


    There was an artist silly for his face,
    For it was younger than his youth, last year.
    Now, he is old; his back will never brace;
    He's lost his colour very far from here,
    Poured it down shell-holes till the veins ran dry,
    And half his lifetime lapsed in the hot race
    And leap of purple spurted from his thigh.


    One time he liked a blood-smear down his leg,
    After the matches, carried shoulder-high.
    It was after football, when he'd drunk a peg,
    He thought he'd better join.-He wonders why.
    Someone had said he'd look a god in kilts,
    That's why; and maybe, too, to please his Meg,
    Aye, that was it, to please the giddy jilts
    He asked to join. He didn't have to beg;
    Smiling they wrote his lie: aged nineteen years.
    Germans he scarcely thought of; all their guilt,
    And Austria's, did not move him. And no fears
    Of Fear came yet. He thought of jewelled hilts
    For daggers in plaid socks; of smart salutes;
    And care of arms; and leave; and pay arrears;
    Esprit de corps; and hints for young recruits.
    And soon, he was drafted out with drums and cheers.


    Some cheered him home, but not as crowds cheer Goal.
    Only a solemn man who brought him fruits
    Thanked him; and then inquired about his soul.


    Now, he will spend a few sick years in institutes,
    And do what things the rules consider wise,
    And take whatever pity they may dole.
    Tonight he noticed how the women's eyes
    Passed from him to the strong men that were whole.
    How cold and late it is! Why don't they come
    And put him into bed? Why don't they come?

    Wilfred Owen

    The Soldier

    If I should die, think only this of me:
    That there's some corner of a foreign field
    That is for ever England. There shall be
    In that rich earth a richer dust concealed;
    A dust whom England bore, shaped, made aware,
    Gave, once, her flowers to love, her ways to roam,
    A body of England's, breathing English air,
    Washed by the rivers, blest by suns of home.

    And think, this heart, all evil shed away,
    A pulse in the eternal mind, no less
    Gives somewhere back the thoughts by England given;
    Her sights and sounds; dreams happy as her day;
    And laughter, learnt of friends; and gentleness,
    In hearts at peace, under an English heaven.

    Rupert Brooke

    An Irish Airman foresees his Death

    I KNOW that I shall meet my fate
    Somewhere among the clouds above;
    Those that I fight I do not hate
    Those that I guard I do not love;
    My country is Kiltartan Cross,
    My countrymen Kiltartan’s poor,
    No likely end could bring them loss
    Or leave them happier than before.
    Nor law, nor duty bade me fight,
    Nor public man, nor cheering crowds,
    A lonely impulse of delight
    Drove to this tumult in the clouds;
    I balanced all, brought all to mind,
    The years to come seemed waste of breath,
    A waste of breath the years behind
    In balance with this life, this death.

    W.B.Yeats

    I could go on, there are so many brilliant poems on the subject, but I'd love to hear other peoples favourites.

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    Perhaps not directly about warfare, per se, but rather about the experience of the concentration camps of WWII. Immediately following the war, at a period in which it had been stated, "there can be no poetry after the Holocaust," Paul Celan had the audacity to write poetry about the Holocaust. His rightfully famous Death Fugue is truly harrowing:

    Black milk of daybreak we drink it at sundown
    we drink it at noon in the morning we drink it at night
    we drink it and drink it
    we dig a grave in the breezes there one lies unconfined
    A man lives in the house he plays with the serpents
    he writes
    he writes when dusk falls to Germany your golden
    hair Margarete
    he writes it ans steps out of doors and the stars are
    flashing he whistles his pack out
    he whistles his Jews out in earth has them dig for a
    grave
    he commands us strike up for the dance

    Black milk of daybreak we drink you at night
    we drink you in the morning at noon we drink you at
    sundown
    we drink and we drink you
    A man lives in the house he plays with the serpents
    he writes
    he writes when dusk falls to Germany your golden hair
    Margarete
    your ashen hair Sulamith we dig a grave in the breezes
    there one lies unconfined

    He calls out jab deeper into the earth you lot you
    others sing now and play
    he grabs at teh iron in his belt he waves it his
    eyes are blue
    jab deper you lot with your spades you others play
    on for the dance

    Black milk of daybreak we drink you at night
    we drink you at at noon in the morning we drink you
    at sundown
    we drink and we drink you
    a man lives in the house your golden hair Margarete
    your ashen hair Sulamith he plays with the serpents
    He calls out more sweetly play death death is a master
    from Germany
    he calls out more darkly now stroke your strings then
    as smoke you will rise into air
    then a grave you will have in the clouds there one
    lies unconfined

    Black milk of daybreak we drink you at night
    we drink you at noon death is a master from Germany...

    from translation by Michael Hamburger from Paul Celan, Todesfuge
    complete poem can be found here:

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    Another truly harrowing poem relating to the atrocities of the Second World War is surely Anthiny Hecht's More Light! More Light! (These being the reported last words of Goethe):

    ...We move now to outside a German wood.
    Three men are there commanded to dig a hole
    In which the two Jews are ordered to lie down
    And be buried alive by the third, who is a Pole.

    Not light from the shrine at Weimar beyond the hill
    Nor light from heaven appeared. But he did refuse.
    A Luger settled back deeply in its glove.
    He was ordered to change places with the Jews.

    Much casual death had drained away their souls.
    The thick dirt mounted toward the quivering chin.
    When only the head was exposed the order came
    To dig him out again and to get back in.

    No light, no light in the blue Polish eye.
    When he finished a riding boot packed down the earth.
    The Luger hovered lightly in its glove.
    He was shot in the belly and in three hours bled to death.

    No prayers or incense rose up in those hours
    Which grew to be years, and every day came mute
    Ghosts from the ovens, sifting through crisp air,
    And settled upon his eyes in a black soot.

    from- More Light! More Light- Anthony Hecht
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    I love WW1 trench poetry, it has the added benefit that I can actually understand it My favourite War poem is Recruiting by E.A.MacKintosh

    Recruiting
    ‘Lads, you’re wanted, go and help,’
    On the railway carriage wall
    Stuck the poster, and I thought
    Of the hands that penned the call.

    Fat civilians wishing they
    ‘Could go and fight the Hun’.
    Can’t you see them thanking God
    That they’re over forty-one?

    Girls with feathers, vulgar songs –
    Washy verse on England’s need –
    God – and don’t we damned well know
    How the message ought to read.

    ‘Lads, you’re wanted! Over there,
    Shiver in the morning dew,
    More poor devils like yourselves
    Waiting to be killed by you.

    Go and help to swell the names
    In the casualty lists.
    Help to make the column’s stuff
    For the blasted journalists.

    Help to keep them nice and safe
    From the wicked German foe.
    Don’t let him come over here!
    Lads, you’re wanted – out you go.’

    There’s a better word than that,
    Lads, and can’t you hear it come
    From a million men that call
    You to share their martyrdom?

    Leave the harlots still to sing
    Comic songs about the Hun,
    Leave the fat old men to say
    Now we’ve got them on the run.

    Better twenty honest years
    Than their dull three score and ten.
    Lads you’re wanted. Come and learn
    To live and die with honest men.

    You shall learn what men can do
    If you will but pay the price,
    Learn the gaiety and strength
    In the gallant sacrifice.

    Take your risk of life and death
    Underneath the open sky.
    Live clean or go out quick –
    Lads, you’re wanted. Come and die.

    Discussed here
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    Who put too much wine in his stew
    He felt a bit drunk
    And fell off his bunk
    And landed smack into his shoe
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    MCMXIV - Phillip Larkin

    Those long uneven lines
    Standing as patiently
    As if they were stretched outside
    The Oval or Villa Park,
    The crowns of hats, the sun
    On moustached archaic faces
    Grinning as if it were all
    An August Bank Holiday lark;

    And the shut shops, the bleached
    Established names on the sunblinds,
    The farthings and sovereigns,
    And dark-clothed children at play
    Called after kings and queens,
    The tin advertisements
    For cocoa and twist, and the pubs
    Wide open all day--

    And the countryside not caring:
    The place names all hazed over
    With flowering grasses, and fields
    Shadowing Domesday lines
    Under wheat's restless silence;
    The differently-dressed servants
    With tiny rooms in huge houses,
    The dust behind limousines;

    Never such innocence,
    Never before or since,
    As changed itself to past
    Without a word--the men
    Leaving the gardens tidy,
    The thousands of marriages,
    Lasting a little while longer:
    Never such innocence again.

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    Do Not Weep Maiden, For War is Kind by Stephen Crane

    Do not weep, maiden, for war is kind.
    Because the lover threw wild hands toward the sky
    And the affrighted steed ran on alone,
    Do not weep.
    War is kind.

    Hoarse, booming drums of the regiment,
    Little souls who thirst for fight,
    These men were born to drill and die.
    The unexplained glory flies above them,
    Great is the Battle-God, great, and his Kingdom -
    A field where a thousand corpses lie.

    Do not weep, babe, for war is kind.
    Because your father tumbled in the yellow trenches,
    Raged at his breast, gulped and died,
    Do not weep.
    War is kind.

    Swift blazing flag of the regiment,
    Eagle with crest of red and gold,
    These men were born to drill and die.
    Point for them the virtue of slaughter,
    Make plain to them the excellence of killing
    And a field where a thousand corpses lie.

    Mother whose heart hung humble as a button
    On the bright splendid shroud of your son,
    Do not weep.
    War is kind.


    This is my favorite war poem; it still gives me chills.
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    I have to get off now, people in my house want me to share-I've looked at a few of your poems, wessex girl-somehow I've never read "Dulce et Decorum est", even though it's in an anthology I own-very darkly moving. I liked the one by Yeats also.

    I read "Dark Fudge"-beautiful. I have a friend who teaches "Night" every year-her grandparents were in concentration camps. I'm going to see if she has this; I think she would like to have it, as do I. Thank you so very much for sharing it.
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    Hi. As it's Remembrance Sunday tomorrow, I thought I'd push this thread up again. I was reading so many of the First World War poets yesterday for work, and they are so moving. Anyone want to add any more? I'll come back soon with some.

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    Here are a few more really moving poems.

    The Dug-out

    Why do you lie with your legs ungainly huddled,
    And one arm bent across your sullen, cold,
    Exhausted face? It hurts my heart to watch you,
    Deep-shadowed from the candle's guttering gold;
    And you wonder why I shake you by the shoulder;
    Drowsy, you mumble and sigh and turn your head...
    You are too young to fall asleep for ever;
    And when you sleep you remind me of the dead.


    Siegfried Sassoon

    Aftermath

    Have you forgotten yet?...
    For the world's events have rumbled on since those gagged days,
    Like traffic checked while at the crossing of city-ways:
    And the haunted gap in your mind has filled with thoughts that flow
    Like clouds in the lit heaven of life; and you're a man reprieved to go,
    Taking your peaceful share of Time, with joy to spare.
    But the past is just the same--and War's a bloody game...
    Have you forgotten yet?...
    Look down, and swear by the slain of the War that you'll never forget.

    Do you remember the dark months you held the sector at Mametz--
    The nights you watched and wired and dug and piled sandbags on parapets?
    Do you remember the rats; and the stench
    Of corpses rotting in front of the front-line trench--
    And dawn coming, dirty-white, and chill with a hopeless rain?
    Do you ever stop and ask, 'Is it all going to happen again?'

    Do you remember that hour of din before the attack--
    And the anger, the blind compassion that seized and shook you then
    As you peered at the doomed and haggard faces of your men?
    Do you remember the stretcher-cases lurching back
    With dying eyes and lolling heads--those ashen-grey
    Masks of the lads who once were keen and kind and gay?

    Have you forgotten yet?...
    Look up, and swear by the green of the spring that you'll never forget.

    Siegfried Sassoon


    Blighters

    The House is crammed: tier beyond tier they grin
    And cackle at the Show, while prancing ranks
    Of harlots shrill the chorus, drunk with din;
    ‘We’re sure the Kaiser loves our dear old Tanks!’

    I’d like to see a Tank come down the stalls,
    Lurching to rag-time tunes, or ‘Home, sweet Home’,
    And there’d be no more jokes in Music-halls
    To mock the riddled corpses round Bapaume.

    Siegfried Sassoon

    Died of Wounds

    His wet white face and miserable eyes
    Brought nurses to him more than groans and sighs:
    But hoarse and low and rapid rose and fell
    His troubled voice: he did the business well.

    The ward grew dark; but he was still complaining
    And calling out for ‘Dickie’. ‘Curse the Wood!
    ‘It’s time to go. O Christ, and what’s the good?
    ‘We’ll never take it, and it’s always raining.’

    I wondered where he’d been; then heard him shout,
    ‘They snipe like hell! O Dickie, don’t go out...
    I fell asleep ... Next morning he was dead;
    And some Slight Wound lay smiling on the bed.

    Siegfried Sassoon

    Does It Matter?

    Does it matter?-losing your legs?
    For people will always be kind,
    And you need not show that you mind
    When others come in after hunting
    To gobble their muffins and eggs.
    Does it matter?-losing you sight?
    There’s such splendid work for the blind;
    And people will always be kind,
    As you sit on the terrace remembering
    And turning your face to the light.
    Do they matter-those dreams in the pit?
    You can drink and forget and be glad,
    And people won't say that you’re mad;
    For they know that you've fought for your country,
    And no one will worry a bit.

    Siegfried Sassoon

    How to Die

    Dark clouds are smouldering into red
    While down the craters morning burns.
    The dying soldier shifts his head
    To watch the glory that returns;
    He lifts his fingers toward the skies
    Where holy brightness breaks in flame;
    Radiance reflected in his eyes,
    And on his lips a whispered name.

    You’d think, to hear some people talk,
    That lads go West with sobs and curses,
    And sullen faces white as chalk,
    Hankering for wreaths and tombs and hearses.
    But they’ve been taught the way to do it
    Like Christian soldiers; not with haste
    And shuddering groans; but passing through it
    With due regard for decent taste.

    Siegfried Sassoon

    Hero

    Jack fell as he'd have wished,' the Mother said,
    And folded up the letter that she'd read.
    'The Colonel writes so nicely.' Something broke
    In the tired voice that quavered to a choke.
    She half looked up. 'We mothers are so proud
    Of our dead soldiers.' Then her face was bowed.

    Quietly the Brother Officer went out.
    He'd told the poor old dear some gallant lies
    That she would nourish all her days, no doubt.
    For while he coughed and mumbled, her weak eyes
    Had shone with gentle triumph, brimmed with joy,
    Because he'd been so brave, her glorious boy.

    He thought how 'Jack', cold-footed, useless swine,
    Had panicked down the trench that night the mine
    Went up at Wicked Corner; how he'd tried
    To get sent home, and how, at last, he died,
    Blown to small bits. And no one seemed to care
    Except that lonely woman with white hair.

    Siegfried Sassoon

    Memorial Tablet

    Squire nagged and bullied till I went to fight,
    (Under Lord Derby’s Scheme). I died in hell—
    (They called it Passchendaele). My wound was slight,
    And I was hobbling back; and then a shell
    Burst slick upon the duck-boards: so I fell
    Into the bottomless mud, and lost the light.

    At sermon-time, while Squire is in his pew,
    He gives my gilded name a thoughtful stare:
    For, though low down upon the list, I’m there;
    ‘In proud and glorious memory’ ... that’s my due.
    Two bleeding years I fought in France, for Squire:
    I suffered anguish that he’s never guessed.
    Once I came home on leave: and then went west...
    What greater glory could a man desire?

    Siegfried Sassoon

    Reconciliation

    When you are standing at your hero’s grave,
    Or near some homeless village where he died,
    Remember, through your heart’s rekindling pride,
    The German soldiers who were loyal and brave.

    Men fought like brutes; and hideous things were done;
    And you have nourished hatred, harsh and blind.
    But in that Golgotha perhaps you’ll find
    The mothers of the men who killed your son.

    Siegfried Sassoon

    As you can see, I'm a great fan of Siegfried Sassoon. His physical bravery was beyond question, being nicknamed "Mad Jack" by his colleagues for his almost suicidal actions. He won the Military Cross after taking a German trench single-handedly. But his moral courage was great too. He became increasingly disillusioned with the War, and in 1917 refused to go back to the Front, after he'd been convalescing from another wound. He wrote "A Soldier's Declaration" to his commanding officer, and it was read out in Parliament, and circulated in the Press.


    I am making this statement as an act of wilful defiance of military authority because I believe that the war is being deliberately prolonged by those who have the power to end it. I am a soldier, convinced that I am acting on behalf of soldiers. I believe that the war upon which I entered as a war of defence and liberation has now become a war of agression and conquest. I believe that the purposes for which I and my fellow soldiers entered upon this war should have been so clearly stated as to have made it impossible to change them and that had this been done the objects which actuated us would now be attainable by negotiation.

    I have seen and endured the sufferings of the troops and I can no longer be a party to prolonging these sufferings for ends which I believe to be evil and unjust. I am not protesting against the conduct of the war, but against the political errors and insincerities for which the fighting men are being sacrificed.

    On behalf of those who are suffering now, I make this protest against the deception which is being practised upon them; also I believe it may help to destroy the callous complacency with which the majority of those at home regard the continuance of agonies which they do not share and which they have not enough imagination to realise.


    The Military were ready to court-martial him, but his friend Robert Graves persuaded them he was mentally ill, and he was sent to Craiglockhart Hospital, to be treated, where he met the young poet Wilfred Owen, who was also being treated for a breakdown. This must surely be one of the most fortunate meetings in literary history, as Owen was a great admirer of Sassoon's work, and the older poet encouraged him in his writing, and to write about the War, which he hadn't done until then. Owen was an unpublished poet at the time, and after the War, Sassoon was instrumental in getting his work published and noticed. Would we ever have heard of the brilliant Wilfred Owen without Siegfried Sassoon?

    Both men were courageous soldiers, winning the MC. They both went back to the Front, Sassoon would not let his comrades down, although he tried to persuade Owen not to go back. Owen insisted that "My subject is War, and the Pity of War. The Poetry is in the Pity". The rest is history, as they say. Owen was killed one week before the Armistice, his family receiving the news as the bells were ringing out for peace, and Sassoon survived. Sassoon threw his medal ribbons in the Mersey, but his medal has since been found in the attic of his home.

    I'll be back in a while with some more poems. Does anyone else have any favourites?

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    IN FLANDERS FIELDS

    In Flanders fields the poppies blow
    Between the crosses, row on row,
    That mark our place; and in the sky
    The larks, still bravely singing, fly
    Scarce heard amid the guns below.

    We are the Dead. Short days ago
    We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
    Loved and were loved, and now we lie
    In Flanders fields.

    Take up our quarrel with the foe:
    To you from failing hands we throw
    The torch; be yours to hold it high.
    If ye break faith with us who die
    We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
    In Flanders fields.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    IN FLANDERS FIELDS

    In Flanders fields the poppies blow
    Between the crosses, row on row,
    That mark our place; and in the sky
    The larks, still bravely singing, fly
    Scarce heard amid the guns below.

    We are the Dead. Short days ago
    We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
    Loved and were loved, and now we lie
    In Flanders fields.

    Take up our quarrel with the foe:
    To you from failing hands we throw
    The torch; be yours to hold it high.
    If ye break faith with us who die
    We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
    In Flanders fields.

    ~Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae (1872-1918)
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    Owen and Sassoon are two of the best, both reforming poetry against the rather medieval chivalric glorification of war that you see with Pope or some Hardy. You see irony, instead of blazing trumpets and honour, instead of the deceitful propaganda fed to Britain at the time of the Boar War up and before up til the early years of WW1. My favourite war poem is Anthem for Doomed Youth by Owen, which you must give some of its credit to Sassoon, who was a great friend to Owen, and who edited the text for him in what I see as a collaboration of love and understanding, irony, and realism of war.

    Theres a few others but my favourite is definitely this Owen poem.

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    Drummer Hodge by Thomas Hardy

    They throw in Drummer Hodge, to rest
    Uncoffined – just as found:
    His landmark is a kopje-crest
    That breaks the veldt around;
    And foreign constellations west
    Each night above his mound.

    Young Hodge the Drummer never knew –
    Fresh from his Wessex home –
    The meaning of the broad Karoo,
    The Bush, the dusty loam,
    And why uprose to nightly view
    Strange stars amid the gloam.

    Yet portion of that unknown plain
    Will Hodge forever be;
    His homely Northern breast and brain
    Grow to some Southern tree,
    And strange-eyed constellation reign
    His stars eternally

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    Which is the poem which has 'age shall not weary them/nor the years condemn'

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelby_lake View Post
    Which is the poem which has 'age shall not weary them/nor the years condemn'
    It's For the Fallen by Laurence Binyon. The words are used at Remembrance services.


    For the Fallen by Laurence Binyon

    With proud thanksgiving, a mother for her children,
    England mourns for her dead across the sea.
    Flesh of her flesh they were, spirit of her spirit,
    Fallen in the cause of the free.

    Solemn the drums thrill; Death august and royal
    Sings sorrow up into immortal spheres,
    There is music in the midst of desolation
    And a glory that shines upon our tears.

    They went with songs to the battle, they were young,
    Straight of limb, true of eye, steady and aglow.
    They were staunch to the end against odds uncounted;
    They fell with their faces to the foe.

    They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
    Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
    At the going down of the sun and in the morning
    We will remember them.

    They mingle not with their laughing comrades again;
    They sit no more at familiar tables of home;
    They have no lot in our labour of the day-time;
    They sleep beyond England's foam.

    But where our desires are and our hopes profound,
    Felt as a well-spring that is hidden from sight,
    To the innermost heart of their own land they are known
    As the stars are known to the Night;

    As the stars that shall be bright when we are dust,
    Moving in marches upon the heavenly plain;
    As the stars that are starry in the time of our darkness,
    To the end, to the end, they remain.


    Here's a few more of my favourites:

    In Memoriam
    by Ewart Alan Mackintosh (killed in action 21 November 1917 aged 24)

    (Private D Sutherland killed in action in the German trenches, 16 May 1916, and the others who died.)

    So you were David's father,
    And he was your only son,
    And the new-cut peats are rotting
    And the work is left undone,
    Because of an old man weeping,
    Just an old man in pain,
    For David, his son David,
    That will not come again.

    Oh, the letters he wrote you,
    And I can see them still,
    Not a word of the fighting,
    But just the sheep on the hill
    And how you should get the crops in
    Ere the year get stormier,
    And the Bosches have got his body,
    And I was his officer.

    You were only David's father,
    But I had fifty sons
    When we went up in the evening
    Under the arch of the guns,
    And we came back at twilight -
    O God! I heard them call
    To me for help and pity
    That could not help at all.

    Oh, never will I forget you,
    My men that trusted me,
    More my sons than your fathers',
    For they could only see
    The little helpless babies
    And the young men in their pride.
    They could not see you dying,
    And hold you while you died.

    Happy and young and gallant,
    They saw their first-born go,
    But not the strong limbs broken
    And the beautiful men brought low,
    The piteous writhing bodies,
    They screamed 'Don't leave me, sir',
    For they were only your fathers
    But I was your officer.

    Inspiration for the Poem
    On the evening of 16 May, 1916 Lieutenant Ewart Alan Mackintosh and Second Lieutenant Mackay of the 5th Battalion Seaforth Highlanders led a raid on the German trenches in the sector of the front line north-west of Arras. By the end of the night there were sixteen British casualties, which included fourteen wounded and two killed. One of the two dead soldiers was Private David Sutherland.

    Private David Sutherland has no known grave. His name is commemorated in Bay 8 of the Arras Memorial to the Missing at Faubourg d'Amiens military cemetery in Arras.


    Mesopotamia

    1917


    They shall not return to us, the resolute, the young,
    The eager and whole-hearted whom we gave:
    But the men who left them thriftily to die in their own dung,
    Shall they come with years and honour to the grave?

    They shall not return to us; the strong men coldly slain
    In sight of help denied from day to day:
    But the men who edged their agonies and chid them in their pain,
    Are they too strong and wise to put away?

    Our dead shall not return to us while Day and Night divide--
    Never while the bars of sunset hold.
    But the idle-minded overlings who quibbled while they died,
    Shall they thrust for high employments as of old?

    Shall we only threaten and be angry for an hour:
    When the storm is ended shall we find
    How softly but how swiftly they have sidled back to power
    By the favour and contrivance of their kind?

    Even while they soothe us, while they promise large amends,
    Even while they make a show of fear,
    Do they call upon their debtors, and take counsel with their
    friends,
    To conform and re-establish each career?

    Their lives cannot repay us--their death could not undo--
    The shame that they have laid upon our race.
    But the slothfulness that wasted and the arrogance that slew,
    Shell we leave it unabated in its place?

    Rudyard Kipling


    My Boy Jack

    1914-1918


    'Have you news of my boy Jack?'
    Not this tide.
    'When d'you think that he'll come back?'
    Not with this wind blowing, and this tide.
    'Has anyone else had word of him?'
    Not this tide.
    For what is sunk will hardly swim,
    Not with this wind blowing and this tide.
    'Oh, dear, what comfort can I find?'
    None this tide,
    Nor any tide,
    Except he did not shame his kind-
    Not even with that wind blowing, and that tide.
    Then hold your head up all the more,
    This tide,
    And every tide;
    Because he was the son you bore,
    And gave to that wind blowing and that tide!

    Rudyard Kipling

    I find the Kipling ones particularly poignant, as he lost his son John at the Battle of Loos in 1915. His guilt must have been enormous, as he was instrumental in getting John a commission, at age 17, after he'd been turned down numerous times for the Military due to his appalling eyesight. His body was never found in Kipling's lifetime, and he spent years looking for him. A body did turn up in 1992, which was assumed to have been him, and so now has a grave. Kipling played a major part with the War Graves Commission after the War, suggesting the line "Their Name Liveth for Evermore". But after his initial support for the War, some of his later work is a marked contrast, and these lines are heartbreaking.

    "If any question why we died,
    Tell them, because our Fathers lied".


    A Dead Statesman

    I could not dig: I dared not rob:
    Therefore I lied to please the mob.
    Now all my lies are proved untrue
    And I must face the men I slew.
    What tale shall serve me here among
    Mine angry and defrauded young?


    I have a Rendezvous with Death

    I have a rendezvous with Death
    At some disputed barricade,
    When Spring comes back with rustling shade
    And apple-blossoms fill the air—
    I have a rendezvous with Death
    When Spring brings back blue days and fair.

    It may be he shall take my hand
    And lead me into his dark land
    And close my eyes and quench my breath—
    It may be I shall pass him still.
    I have a rendezvous with Death
    On some scarred slope of battered hill,
    When Spring comes round again this year
    And the first meadow-flowers appear.

    God knows 'twere better to be deep
    Pillowed in silk and scented down,
    Where love throbs out in blissful sleep,
    Pulse nigh to pulse, and breath to breath,
    Where hushed awakenings are dear . . .
    But I've a rendezvous with Death
    At midnight in some flaming town,
    When Spring trips north again this year,
    And I to my pledged word am true,
    I shall not fail that rendezvous.

    Alan Seeger

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