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    Quote Originally Posted by JCamilo View Post
    The movie is better because it can carry on the illusion of the split personalities better than the book. Also I think the book is not about fight or tough guys, but need of change, anarchy. It is a punk book where the punk is hidden.
    Some obivous picks with classical themes of literature (dopplegangers, secret societies) under a new guise. Not as bad a most books but not such bad thing. But them movie is consierable better.
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    I think you missed the point.
    No, I got the point, thanks. I just found it trivial.

    Fight Club is not a rejection of capitalism. It is a rejection of materialism. (There is a difference). It is also a send-up of hyper-masculinity. A very confused send-up, but then Palahniuk seems confused about many things.

    Rejecting the world your parents have created is a very old tune, and usually-- as in this book-- it is not a very interesting one. Rejecting, poking fun, an ironic tone applied to everything, even your own art, an unfocused rage to bust things up... pardon me while I yawn.

    Allen Ginsberg's "Howl"... now that was eloquent. Some of those old James Dean movies... those were sort of interesting. Far more original than this poor sad attempt at writing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curlyqlink View Post

    Allen Ginsberg's "Howl"... now that was eloquent. Some of those old James Dean movies... those were sort of interesting. Far more original than this poor sad attempt at writing.
    I find the opposite: Howl is a poor sad attempt at writing, Fight Club is an original and good lament/rebellion story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by curlyqlink View Post
    I found it terribly juvenile. I hate it when authors indulge in wish fulfillment fantasies via their characters, particularly when their greatest wish and aspiration is to have been... a tough guy.

    Equally sad is when they indulge in self-pity. Which is about all the characters in this book do, in the final analysis. Oh, it's so hard being a man in today's society. Boo-hoo. Oh, by the way... did you notice what a tough, bar-fightin' kind of guy I am?

    Utter silliness.
    It always intrigues me when people are so passionately averse to certain types of literature... What kind of books do you actually like.. and why put yourself through something that you are clearly not going to enjoy? That seems more akin to 'utter silliness' to me.

    I agree with some of the other comments, the film is probably better than the book.
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    why put yourself through something that you are clearly not going to enjoy?
    The answer to that is simple enough: the only way to judge a book is to read it.

    I'm currently reading Nietzsche (The Birth of Tragedy, Beyond Good and Evil). So far I mostly disagree with his writing, but it is profound and important nonetheless. I don't only read authors I agree with; maybe that means I don't always read for enjoyment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curlyqlink View Post
    The answer to that is simple enough: the only way to judge a book is to read it.

    I'm currently reading Nietzsche (The Birth of Tragedy, Beyond Good and Evil). So far I mostly disagree with his writing, but it is profound and important nonetheless. I don't only read authors I agree with; maybe that means I don't always read for enjoyment.
    Well I can understand that some people don't read just for enjoyment and certainly with academic works and philosophies that makes sense... and I also agree that the only way to judge a book is to read it, but it seems perverse to put yourself through a work of fiction that you are clearly not going to enjoy and that is ultimately just going to wind you up... life is too short! maybe you had no idea what fight club is about, in which case fair enough... anyway 'enjoy' your Nietzsche
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    Great book.

    I have yet to find out what that choke book is all about. ( His newest piece.)
    Last edited by Mr Hyde; 10-22-2008 at 11:00 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Hyde View Post
    Great book.

    I have yet to find out what that choke book is all about. ( His newest piece.)
    snuff is his newest book i believe, choke is a few years old now..

    read rant over the summer which was ok, not one of his better books... haunted and lullaby are prob my faves... haunted if only for the short story 'guts'!
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    Fight Club - Chuck Palahnuik

    I'm about halfway through this book. So far I'm finding it to be the weirdest written book I've read thus far. Though I have to say I do enjoy the film more in my opinion...maybe that's because I've seen it three times and it is burned into my head.

    What are your thoughts on the book?
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    Haven,t read the book, but found the film striking a chord .
    Is there a role for the "blue collar male" in todays world.?
    Are they being emasculated. (re. the Meatloaf character.)
    The fights seem to me to be about regaining courage and self pride.

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    Chuck Palahniuk

    So I just bought my best friend a book for her 19th birthday by Chuck Palahniuk - The Survivor, and I am not sure what is it about. I know that she will like it, judging by her taste and his other novels. I just need to know what you guys who have read it think about it... thanx
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    Chuck Palahniuk

    I might be mistaken here, but it seems to me that Chuck Palahniuk is not on the authors list here.... I am quite disappointed about it so could somebody fix it please.
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    They have to be out of copyright, maybe they could include him in about 40 years!

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    .... now I am really disappointed
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