"The magic gave me insight, and you gave me a heart, but for all the heart and insight in the world, I am still a cat."
Well I don't think Dickens should be approached like, say, Madame Bovary. Dickens reads more like a tale, and I feel that he should be approached in such a way. Even his writing conveys this feeling, it is always tender and light. I think Dickens is one of the greatest prose writers too.
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Yes, the creation of character through quirks and description is first rate, but they have no psychological reality. People do not spontaneously change personalities on the eve of Christmas despite being visited by ghosts. With that said I am not Criticising Dickens for this aspect because he probably never intended psychological depth merely that I don’t enjoy Dickens that much for this reason, though of course my opinions may change over time.
Well even more so for Christmas Carol, it is not supposed to be a psychological study, but rather a light tale. So while I understand what you're saying, I feel it is just like saying "magic realism would be better if it was more realist". So it is not so much Dickens that you don't like rather the "genre" which he writes.
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Yes, perhaps that would be a fair comment.
Though with the same thinking perhaps it is best not to praise the characters of Dickens at all, just the construction of his language and the enjoyable lightness of his tales?
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I don't praise the characters, I praise the overall work. I don't think dostoevskian characterization would be nice to have in a Dickens story
Just like Dickens characters in a Dostoevsky novel would be ridiculous. And in this sense you are right that the main interest of a Dickens story is not characterization or psychology, but other vectors.
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No, I agree, I wasn’t referring to you with the praising of characters, but to the above posters and to general comments I have heard before. Perhaps it would be more accurate to praise the characterisation within the particular genre itself, his characters work well within his novels, Dostoevsky’s within Dostoevsky’s.
Yep, Christmas Carol is just a nice Christmassy tale. Because you don't really want misery at Christmas do you?
A Tale of Two Cities has more depth, in the character of Sydney Carton, the drunk lawyer who sees in rare moments of sobriety how bad he is. Then the ending is famous.
I remember when I started to read serious writers (eons ago) my local library had a number of Henry James novels on its shelves. They were impressively bound but what struck me most about them was their thickness. A cursory glance through one or two told me that James was an extraordinarily verbose author who would be unlikely to interest me. Years later I decided to read some of his less lengthy works such as The Turn of the Screw and The Europeans. I discovered that his reputation for wordiness was justified but he could write a good story. Later still I bought a copy of The American in a German translation because I thought that the use of compound words in the German language would make the novel seem shorter but I was wrong; the book was still unnaturally verbose.
Can anyone explain why James, a good story teller, was so long-winded, surely even a Freudian sub-text doesn't require such verbosity.
Les Miserables - too simple, too didactic, too corny.... maybe i'm missing something
Middlesmarch. Dont like Middlesmarch.
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I'm not sure if it is really labeled as a "classic," but it is the one piece of literature that I have read so far that I wanted to burn. (It belonged to my school and was an assignment, so I decided I probably should not. . .)
Oh. . . almost forgot to write it down:
Franz Kafka's Metamorphasis. *shudder*
The Great Gatsby
Don Quitoxe
Couldn't relate well to either novel.
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