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    nobody said it was easy barbara0207's Avatar
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    The Road by Cormac McCarthy

    The novel 'The Road' by Cormac McCarthy, published in 2006, is the story of a father and his son trying to survive in a hostile environment.

    The world they live in is hostile in terms of nature and society. Nature has been destroyed completely, and because of that society is in pieces, everybody fights for survival, marauding bands of looters, robbers and man-eaters make the main characters' trip a nightmare.

    It would be wrong, however, to read this book as a dystopia as the cause of the disaster is not mentioned. It may have been man-made (nuclear war) or natural (meteorite). A dystopia would not have kept the reader in the dark about that. In dystopian novels the author extrapolates from current trends that worry him or her; usually a warning is issued what the world may come to if these trends should continue. Totalitarianism, uncritical belief in science, human hubris, religious fundamentalism, the destruction of the environment are frequent topics.

    There is nothing of that kind of warning in 'The Road'. True, the world has become bleak and hostile but this scenario is only needed as a setting, maybe a metaphor of the society the characters (we?) live in. In this setting of extremes McCarthy can develop his (partly) heart-warming story of father and son on the road towards survival, perhaps salvation.

    The earth is dark, cold and rainy, nothing grows any more, there is starvation, people are sick and the hearts of many have hardened. A world like this does not seem to have any more room for ethic, let alone altruistic behaviour. Yet father and son refuse to behave unethically, they want to be 'the good ones', most of all the son, whose insistence on altruism may seem a bit romanticized, especially in the face of the dangers compassion with one's fellow-sufferers entails in such a destabilized society where you can trust no one. At the end of their journey both father and son have learned valuable lessons from each other, and love, which seems to have died out elsewhere, is the motivating force that keeps them going.

    As bleak as the earth is McCarthy's style. Short, simple sentences prevail, reflecting the barren environment. But instead of reading 'It was very cold' about three dozen times I should have liked a bit more description of just how cold it was.

    Then there is a great deal of dialogue but quotation marks are missing. That makes it sometimes hard to understand who is speaking, which is a nuisance, in my opinion. I like to reread certain passages of the book for their content or the beauty of the language, not because I need to make sure who said what. Adding to this problem are the pronouns. There are no names given, the main characters are called 'father' and 'son', but often not even that, but just 'he'. That may become confusing, especially when the two meet other (male) people. Isn't the first thing you teach a writing class to mind their pronouns?

    These flaws may bother some people more than others, I was somewhat put off by them. But there was compensation: beautiful, even poetic, passages that show McCormac's mastery of language.

    On the whole, reading 'The Road' was not a waste of time. It may not be the author's masterpiece but if you do not read it as a dystopia and once you get used to punctuation and pronouns, it is well worth reading.
    O schaurig ists übers Moor zu gehn,
    wenn es wimmelt vom Heiderauche,
    sich wie Phantome die Dünste drehn
    und die Ranke häkelt am Strauche.


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    Thanks for that Barbara. I loved The Road. I agree, it is not a dystopia. It really is two things, a work contemplating survival at its most extreme essence and novel aboout a father and son relationship. I can't recall a better novel about a father/son relationship ever. The son is a boy and the pressure of survival really heightens the relationship in my opinion. The writing is spare and yes poetic. I really loved this novel. For completeness sake, we had a lengthy discussion in the Book Club forum on this and is worth linking: http://www.online-literature.com/for...ad.php?t=36194
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    Thanks for commenting, Virgil, and for posting the link. I meant to do that and then forgot because I had some problem posting the review.
    Last edited by barbara0207; 08-24-2008 at 07:24 PM.
    O schaurig ists übers Moor zu gehn,
    wenn es wimmelt vom Heiderauche,
    sich wie Phantome die Dünste drehn
    und die Ranke häkelt am Strauche.


    Annette von Droste-Hülshoff (1797 - 1843) (see avatar) Der Knabe im Moor/The Lad in the Moor

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    I loved the lack of quotation marks and apostrophes, it felt like it took the simplicity of the writing style a step further. I rarely found that dialog was long enough to cause confusion.

    That said, great review for a great book.

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    I loved reading this book. I even gave it for my brother to read it. And I have to admit that I cried in the end when the father died It was so sad (although he's been sick all the story through). It's a great read!
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Goodman View Post
    I loved the lack of quotation marks and apostrophes, it felt like it took the simplicity of the writing style a step further. I rarely found that dialog was long enough to cause confusion.

    That said, great review for a great book.
    Thanks, John.

    If you look at the thread, some people were not bothered at all by the unconventional punctuation. It does add to the peculiarity of his style, right, but I thought he was going too far with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nossa View Post
    I loved reading this book. I even gave it for my brother to read it. And I have to admit that I cried in the end when the father died It was so sad (although he's been sick all the story through). It's a great read!
    No, if I remember right, I didn't cry this time. I think it was the above mentioned style that kept me from crying (I regularly cry for Dickens' characters, for example ).

    I see that you have 'borrowed' a sentence from the book for your signature. The sentence reminded me of Shakespeare's 'Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow ...'. Do you think that was intentional?
    O schaurig ists übers Moor zu gehn,
    wenn es wimmelt vom Heiderauche,
    sich wie Phantome die Dünste drehn
    und die Ranke häkelt am Strauche.


    Annette von Droste-Hülshoff (1797 - 1843) (see avatar) Der Knabe im Moor/The Lad in the Moor

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbara0207 View Post
    I see that you have 'borrowed' a sentence from the book for your signature. The sentence reminded me of Shakespeare's 'Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow ...'. Do you think that was intentional?
    I think they both convey the same feeling and idea. Both lines were written in a context of death and wretchedness. But while Macbeth was lamenting his wife, McCarthy was lamenting the world. I'm not sure if it's intentional, but it could have been. Good point!
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    Thanks, Nossa.
    Yes, the context of death and wretchedness, as you say, and the similarity in sound made me think of Macbeth. And if I'm not mistaken Macbeth does not only lament his wife. The words can also be understood in a more general sense.
    O schaurig ists übers Moor zu gehn,
    wenn es wimmelt vom Heiderauche,
    sich wie Phantome die Dünste drehn
    und die Ranke häkelt am Strauche.


    Annette von Droste-Hülshoff (1797 - 1843) (see avatar) Der Knabe im Moor/The Lad in the Moor

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbara0207 View Post
    Thanks, Nossa.
    Yes, the context of death and wretchedness, as you say, and the similarity in sound made me think of Macbeth. And if I'm not mistaken Macbeth does not only lament his wife. The words can also be understood in a more general sense.
    Yes, you're right. Macbeth was more of contemplating on the idea of life and death in general. That makes me think that maybe McCarthy indented to echo Shakespeare in his story. I mean, we know how he echoed W.B. Yeats' poem 'Sailing to Byzantium' by borrowing the first line as the title of his novel No Country for Old Men, maybe he did mean this here too. Especially with the same repitition of 'and' and the word 'borrowed', just like Shakespeare repeateed the word 'tomorrow'.
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    Well, I think it depends how you understand the word 'echo' in this context. If it means writing a story based on the play 'Macbeth' and all its major themes, then it is not the suitable word. Macbeth has destroyed the god-given world order by murdering the rightful king and he knows that that will lead to disaster. Nevertheless, he keeps on fighting to the end, is killed and the world order is restored.

    In 'The Road', the earth, the basis of human life, is destroyed and it is doubtful whether it will ever be healed. Other than Macbeth, the main characters try to maintain ethic behaviour and the father's death is no punishment.

    But if 'echo' means that McCarthy's sentence re-sounds, so to speak, a certain aspect of Shakespeare's sentence, then it may be the right word. This aspect might be the worry concerning the world's destruction and what may become of mankind.
    O schaurig ists übers Moor zu gehn,
    wenn es wimmelt vom Heiderauche,
    sich wie Phantome die Dünste drehn
    und die Ranke häkelt am Strauche.


    Annette von Droste-Hülshoff (1797 - 1843) (see avatar) Der Knabe im Moor/The Lad in the Moor

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbara0207 View Post
    Well, I think it depends how you understand the word 'echo' in this context. If it means writing a story based on the play 'Macbeth' and all its major themes, then it is not the suitable word. Macbeth has destroyed the god-given world order by murdering the rightful king and he knows that that will lead to disaster. Nevertheless, he keeps on fighting to the end, is killed and the world order is restored.

    In 'The Road', the earth, the basis of human life, is destroyed and it is doubtful whether it will ever be healed. Other than Macbeth, the main characters try to maintain ethic behaviour and the father's death is no punishment.

    But if 'echo' means that McCarthy's sentence re-sounds, so to speak, a certain aspect of Shakespeare's sentence, then it may be the right word. This aspect might be the worry concerning the world's destruction and what may become of mankind.
    Actually I was thinking of the second meaning. I think if McCarthy did intend to echo Shakespeare, it's only in the fact that in both The Road and Macbeth, there's destruction. We're not concerned, in this case, whether both stories end with a restoration of that order. As you said, in The Road, Earth is doomed, while in Macbeth, as a tragedy, order was eventually restored by the death of the tragic hero of the story.
    Do you think we should link this discussion to the already existing discussion thread of the book, in the book club forum? It would be good for those viewing it
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    Good idea, Nossa! Will you do that?
    O schaurig ists übers Moor zu gehn,
    wenn es wimmelt vom Heiderauche,
    sich wie Phantome die Dünste drehn
    und die Ranke häkelt am Strauche.


    Annette von Droste-Hülshoff (1797 - 1843) (see avatar) Der Knabe im Moor/The Lad in the Moor

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    This is a link to the only television interview that Cormac McCarthy has ever given. In it he talks about The Road a book that I loved.

    http://www.oprah.com/media/20080601_...EBEA_O_VIDEO_1

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    nobody said it was easy barbara0207's Avatar
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    Thanks for the link, Joreads. It didn't work for me, however. Do you have to be a member of the site?
    O schaurig ists übers Moor zu gehn,
    wenn es wimmelt vom Heiderauche,
    sich wie Phantome die Dünste drehn
    und die Ranke häkelt am Strauche.


    Annette von Droste-Hülshoff (1797 - 1843) (see avatar) Der Knabe im Moor/The Lad in the Moor

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