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    Robert Frost- reconsidered

    Kay Ryan, formerly a remedial college English teacher for 33 years, is a recent discovery and winner of two major poetry prizes, writes an essay about her analysis of Frost's private notebooks: --I Demand to Speak with God


    by Kay Ryan

    The Notebooks of Robert Frost. Ed. by Robert

    Faggen.
The Belknap Press of Harvard University

    Press. $39.95.

    Reading Frost's private notebooks is the opposite of

    pulling back the curtain on Oz. While the real Oz

    turns out to be a little man working a big speaker

    system, the real Frost turns out to be someone

    naturally—preternaturally—amplified even when

    nobody else is listening. The Notebooks of Robert

    Frost is his collected scraps, none of it written for an

    audience; it is the not-poetry, not-letters,

    not-lectures; it is the teacher's book lists and

    lecturer's notes, private reminders, scotched ideas,

    trial balloons, epigram practice sheets, scraps of

    plays and drafts of verse, fulminations and

    less-than-fulminations—all exactly as they came,

    except no longer in Frost's blocky hand (though his

    ink colors are duly noted). Over the course of 688

    pages, Frost has the answer for everything and the

    counter question—repeated to the Fth power.
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    http://www.poetryfoundation.org/archive/feature.ht

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    He was a mysterious poet, and he blended the forces of nature with mysteries.
    Everything here turns out to be mystery, and nothing remains out of it.

    I have gone through many of his poems, and all are very beautifully written and there is no dearth of images and metaphor, indeed there is abundance of them.

    He had so amazingly written and he was a sucessful poet, a well read scholar.

    “Those who seek to satisfy the mind of man by hampering it with ceremonies and music and affecting charity and devotion have lost their original nature””

    “If water derives lucidity from stillness, how much more the faculties of the mind! The mind of the sage, being in repose, becomes the mirror of the universe, the speculum of all creation.

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    "reconsidered" here might be an overstatement; Ryan in the end concludes by saying Frost the public poet and Frost the individual are the same, kind of an accomplishment by itself considering that most famous individuals today seem to find it necessary to have the "public persona".

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    Robert Frost

    The Mountain

    The mountain held the town as in a shadow
    I saw so much before I slept there once:
    I noticed that I missed stars in the west,
    Where its black body cut into the sky.
    Near me it seemed: I felt it like a wall
    Behind which I was sheltered from a wind.
    And yet between the town and it I found,
    When I walked forth at dawn to see new things,
    Were fields, a river, and beyond, more fields.
    The river at the time was fallen away,
    And made a widespread brawl on cobble-stones;
    But the signs showed what it had done in spring;
    Good grass-land gullied out, and in the grass
    Ridges of sand, and driftwood stripped of bark.
    I crossed the river and swung round the mountain.
    And there I met a man who moved so slow
    With white-faced oxen in a heavy cart,
    It seemed no hand to stop him altogether.

    “What town is this?” I asked.

    “This? Lunenburg.”

    Then I was wrong: the town of my sojourn,
    Beyond the bridge, was not that of the mountain,
    But only felt at night its shadowy presence.
    “Where is your village? Very far from here?”

    “There is no village—only scattered farms.
    We were but sixty voters last election.
    We can’t in nature grow to many more:
    That thing takes all the room!” He moved his goad.
    The mountain stood there to be pointed at.
    Pasture ran up the side a little way,
    And then there was a wall of trees with trunks:
    After that only tops of trees, and cliffs
    Imperfectly concealed among the leaves.
    A dry ravine emerged from under boughs
    Into the pasture.

    “That looks like a path.
    Is that the way to reach the top from here?—
    Not for this morning, but some other time:
    I must be getting back to breakfast now.”

    “I don’t advise your trying from this side.
    There is no proper path, but those that have
    Been up, I understand, have climbed from Ladd’s.
    That’s five miles back. You can’t mistake the place:
    They logged it there last winter some way up.
    I’d take you, but I’m bound the other way.”

    “You’ve never climbed it?”

    “I’ve been on the sides
    Deer-hunting and trout-fishing. There’s a brook
    That starts up on it somewhere—I’ve heard say
    Right on the top, tip-top—a curious thing.
    But what would interest you about the brook,
    It’s always cold in summer, warm in winter.
    One of the great sights going is to see
    It steam in winter like an ox’s breath,
    Until the bushes all along its banks
    Are inch-deep with the frosty spines and bristles—
    You know the kind. Then let the sun shine on it!”

    “There ought to be a view around the world
    From such a mountain—if it isn’t wooded
    Clear to the top.” I saw through leafy screens
    Great granite terraces in sun and shadow,
    Shelves one could rest a knee on getting up—
    With depths behind him sheer a hundred feet;
    Or turn and sit on and look out and down,
    With little ferns in crevices at his elbow.

    “As to that I can’t say. But there’s the spring,
    Right on the summit, almost like a fountain.
    That ought to be worth seeing.”

    “If it’s there.
    You never saw it?”

    “I guess there’s no doubt
    About its being there. I never saw it.
    It may not be right on the very top:
    It wouldn’t have to be a long way down
    To have some head of water from above,
    And a good distance down might not be noticed
    By anyone who’d come a long way up.
    One time I asked a fellow climbing it
    To look and tell me later how it was.”

    “What did he say?”

    “He said there was a lake
    Somewhere in Ireland on a mountain top.”

    “But a lake’s different. What about the spring?”

    “He never got up high enough to see.
    That’s why I don’t advise your trying this side.
    He tried this side. I’ve always meant to go
    And look myself, but you know how it is:
    It doesn’t seem so much to climb a mountain
    You’ve worked around the foot of all your life.
    What would I do? Go in my overalls,
    With a big stick, the same as when the cows
    Haven’t come down to the bars at milking time?
    Or with a shotgun for a stray black bear?
    ’Twouldn’t seem real to climb for climbing it.”

    “I shouldn’t climb it if I didn’t want to—
    Not for the sake of climbing. What’s its name?”

    “We call it Hor: I don’t know if that’s right.”

    “Can one walk around it? Would it be too far?”

    “You can drive round and keep in Lunenburg,
    But it’s as much as ever you can do,
    The boundary lines keep in so close to it.
    Hor is the township, and the township’s Hor—
    And a few houses sprinkled round the foot,
    Like boulders broken off the upper cliff,
    Rolled out a little farther than the rest.”

    “Warm in December, cold in June, you say?”
    "I don’t suppose the water’s changed at all.
    You and I know enough to know it’s warm
    Compared with cold, and cold compared with warm.
    But all the fun’s in how you say a thing.”

    “You’ve lived here all your life?”

    “Ever since Hor
    Was no bigger than a——” What, I did not hear.
    He drew the oxen toward him with light touches
    Of his slim goad on nose and offside flank,
    Gave them their marching orders and was moving.

    from North of Boston (1915)
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    Mysteriously written.

    For he can visualize the unseen and indeed that is the beauty of the poem.

    “Those who seek to satisfy the mind of man by hampering it with ceremonies and music and affecting charity and devotion have lost their original nature””

    “If water derives lucidity from stillness, how much more the faculties of the mind! The mind of the sage, being in repose, becomes the mirror of the universe, the speculum of all creation.

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