Abuse...Justifiable or not?

[stephofthenight]

so, iv'e been thinking a lot.. and i was wondering what you guys thought about a "good reason" for hitting a girlfriend/wife??? is there ever a reason good enough. i know abused gfs or wifes tend to think they deserve it...but is there a good enough reason for abuse, can anything justfiy that? if so what?

[papayahed]

Hell No.

[Bakiryu]

there's no reason to abuse anyone, neither psychologically nor physically. for we tend to carry the scars of the abuse for as long as we live, both in body and soul.

The only reason to hurt someone is if you both agreed to participate on, oh you know, and even then, you should exercise caution.

There's no reason to hurt any living being if you can prevent it and people who do so should be punished severely.

[Jane Jane]

Unless that person is trying to end your life or harm someone else and you have to stop them, no way, never. And then that is n ot abuse.
For one person to believe he or she has the right to inflict physical or emotional pain on anyone else is to me a serious mental defect, a god complex. That one needs to go to anger management, counselling and if needed.......jail.

[Lote-Tree]

so, iv'e been thinking a lot.. and i was wondering what you guys thought about a "good reason" for hitting a girlfriend/wife??? is there ever a reason good enough. i know abused gfs or wifes tend to think they deserve it...but is there a good enough reason for abuse, can anything justfiy that? if so what?

There should be no excuse.

[crazefest456]

There should be no excuse.

ditto

[livelaughlove]

Agreed - abuse is abuse. There is never a good reason for violence.

[Dori]

there's no reason to abuse anyone, neither psychologically nor physically. for we tend to carry the scars of the abuse for as long as we live, both in body and soul.

The only reason to hurt someone is if you both agreed to participate on, oh you know, and even then, you should exercise caution.

When I was younger, my father believed he had the right to hit me when I missbehaved, you know "Spare the rod, spoil the child". I didn't really learn from it but sometimes children should be punished except you shouldn't really use force.

Now my stepfather believes he has the right to psychologically abuse me, only because he's bedding my mother and wants me to do the housework.

There's no reason to hurt any living being if you can prevent it and people who do so should be punished severely.

Ah, but there is. I believe physically punishing someone leaves a far better impression than any other form of punishment, at least in my experience. For disciplinary purposes, I think physical punishment is sometimes necessary.

People who don't learn from being punished weren't punished hard enough.

Wait a second, I'm a little befuddled at your last statement. How should these "abusers" be punished? Since the answer of this question would be based on opinion, there must be some people who then either think they were "let off the hook" or abused.

[Niamh]

As a topic similar to this was discussed in a previous thread and got not only heated but a bit too personal, i would like to request that people willing to participate in this topic dont get personal in their posts, give their general opinon and respect the opinion of others. Thank you.

[ClaesGefvenberg]

is there a good enough reason for abuse, can anything justfiy that? if so what?

Nothing that I can think of. Abuse is abuse, and imo totally unacceptable. I have on occasion used force to defend myself, but that is something entirely different.

/Claes

[Sweets America]

Nothing that I can think of. Abuse is abuse, and imo totally unacceptable. I have on occasion used force to defend myself, but that is something entirely different.

/Claes

Yes I agree. Defending oneself is different, it's not abuse to me.
I see no valuable reason to abuse someone either.
Also, I think that physical punishment is too much of an easy solution for discipline.

[Koa]

Isn't the fact that it is unacceptable part of the definition of "abuse"?

[Virgil]

so, iv'e been thinking a lot.. and i was wondering what you guys thought about a "good reason" for hitting a girlfriend/wife??? is there ever a reason good enough. i know abused gfs or wifes tend to think they deserve it...but is there a good enough reason for abuse, can anything justfiy that? if so what?

There is never a reason, other than self defence. Period.

[Bakiryu]

People who don't learn from being punished weren't punished hard enough.

Wait a second, I'm a little befuddled at your last statement. How should these "abusers" be punished? Since the answer of this question would be based on opinion, there must be some people who then either think they were "let off the hook" or abused.

Not true. People only learn fear from punishment.

Abusers should be put on a position of powerlessness and let their victims do what they did to them while they are on a position of powerlessness.

[Dori]

Not true. People only learn fear from punishment.

Yes, you are correct (with your second statement, at least). People should be able to connect this fear with their act of wrongdoing, therefore making it less likely that they'll repeat this wrongdoing.

Abusers should be put on a position of powerlessness and let their victims do what they did to them while they are on a position of powerlessness.

Revenge never solves anything.