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    Blame the media

    Many people blame the media for the behavior of humanity and the mental changes and devolution we are going through now. But are we right?

    Is the media to be blamed for the decreasing values of our youth and the attempt to fit into its portrayal of humanity?

    Or are we, the person to blame, in our stupidity by blindly following other's misconceptions?

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    Well it is not our fault what we are bombarded with since infancy, but the price of growing up is that it IS our fault what we do with that stuff once we know how to think intelligently and can do something about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jane Jane View Post
    Well it is not our fault what we are bombarded with since infancy, but the price of growing up is that it IS our fault what we do with that stuff once we know how to think intelligently and can do something about it.
    yeah but by then it will have influenced our thoughts and our subconscious. altering our decision making.
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    I agree with Jane, I think that maybe when they are very young, human beings can let the media influence their lives sometimes, but I believe that every human being is able to make their own decisions and be intelligent enough not to let the media influence them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakiryu View Post
    yeah but by then it will have influenced our thoughts and our subconscious. altering our decision making.
    I believe we can always detach ourselves from what might have influenced us earlier in our lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweets America View Post
    I believe we can always detach ourselves from what might have influenced us earlier in our lives.
    Yes that may be true, but it would take a big event to seperate one from their upbringing, which is most of the time to late to be of any importance in the world

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    Is the media to be blamed for the decreasing values of our youth and the attempt to fit into its portrayal of humanity?
    Generalizing whether the values of our youth are decreasing (rather than increasing when compared to other previous generations) I think is quite difficult, just my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeeJay12513 View Post
    Yes that may be true, but it would take a big event to seperate one from their upbringing, which is most of the time to late to be of any importance in the world
    Yes, but I was only talking about myself. I know how different I am today from what I was years ago.

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    Well I consider the decrease in values to be due to adults just as much as the media, because about 50% of adults set bad examples for kids ~ drinking to much, adultery, burping, being rude, not being loyal to her majesty(mostly just in Commonwealth countries), cursing and the list goes on. Life has just become too comfortable for humans for a "sophisticated middle/upper class" to continue unfortunantly =(

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeeJay12513 View Post
    Well I consider the decrease in values to be due to adults just as much as the media, because about 50% of adults set bad examples for kids ~ drinking to much, adultery, burping, being rude, not being loyal to her majesty(mostly just in Commonwealth countries), cursing and the list goes on. Life has just become too comfortable for humans for a "sophisticated middle/upper class" to continue unfortunantly =(
    I'm not sure adultery should be put at the same level as burping. I see what you mean, but in the meantime the fact that 'adults give bad examples to kids' is not a reason for kids to follow them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pensive View Post
    Generalizing whether the values of our youth are decreasing (rather than increasing when compared to other previous generations) I think is quite difficult, just my opinion.
    I'd have to agree. How are you making the comparison between generations?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweets America View Post
    I'm not sure adultery should be put at the same level as burping. I see what you mean, but in the meantime the fact that 'adults give bad examples to kids' is not a reason for kids to follow them.
    haha i know i was just listing things off, and I know its not a reason. However, a reason is that parents who have raised kids from day one(no matter their social class) are telling kids to do what they do in regards to the good things that they do. The problem with this 'monkey see monkey do' teaching style is that kids follow the bad things aswell, sometimes as just plain ignorance to that they shouldant be doing it, or using the 'oh my parents do it so why shouldnt I' way of thinking even while they know its wrong. Children really need to be taught that they cant trust everything they see/hear, whether it be from peers, parents, adults, or even teachers. This may lead to another rebellious way of thinking, but in the end the world will be better for it I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeeJay12513 View Post
    haha i know i was just listing things off, and I know its not a reason. However, a reason is that parents who have raised kids from day one(no matter their social class) are telling kids to do what they do in regards to the good things that they do. The problem with this 'monkey see monkey do' teaching style is that kids follow the bad things aswell, sometimes as just plain ignorance to that they shouldant be doing it, or using the 'oh my parents do it so why shouldnt I' way of thinking even while they know its wrong. Children really need to be taught that they cant trust everything they see/hear, whether it be from peers, parents, adults, or even teachers. This may lead to another rebellious way of thinking, but in the end the world will be better for it I believe.
    So parents are suppossed to teach they're children not to trust them??
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    No, more of to teach them to form a sort of moral knowledge barrier between the childs own mind and the constant bombardment of information from the outside world. If that makes sense.

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    A sort of pride in their own mind that would keep them safe from the unintelligent minds of the world.

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