Results 1 to 11 of 11

Thread: second coming

  1. #1
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    saudi aribia
    Posts
    21
    hi
    please
    can anybody help me??
    i want to know the visions of yeats in his poem
    the second coming....
    Last edited by Niamh; 12-05-2007 at 01:00 PM. Reason: threads merged- Re posted thread asking for the same help. Edited.

  2. #2
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    saudi aribia
    Posts
    21
    please
    can any body help me????????????????????????

  3. #3
    Asa Nisi Masa mayneverhave's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Philadelphia
    Posts
    732
    Yeats' poem "The Second Coming" deals primarily with the cycle of ages (particularly the transition from one age to the next), which, in Yeats' mind, was represented by spiraling "gyres" which would gradually become wider and wider until the next age was born at the very tip of a new gyre. In Yeats' poem, the transition from the current age to the next is represented by the destruction of civil order, and more forebodingly, the slouching of the sphynx from egypt to bethlehem - which is of particular religious significance, given the fact that Yeats saw this as the Christian age. Thus, a new age is borne out of this violent reversal.

    In one of his notes on the poem, Yeats wrote: “the end of an age, which always receives the revelation of the character of the next age, is represented by the coming of one gyre to its place of greatest expansion and of the other to that of its greatest contraction.”

    This cyclical view of time has been a recurrent theme in culture. There’s Giambattista Vico’s seminal theories on history, Nietzsche’s idea of “Eternal Return”, James Joyce’s “Finnegans Wake”, and T.S. Eliot’s “The Waste Land”, which deals with the idea of the destruction and reconstruction (or lack thereof) of human culture (which itself is heavily influenced by the Grail and Fisher King myths). You could also very well include films such as "2001: A Space Odyssey" and, more recently, "The Fountain".


    Obviously, this is some heavy stuff, and the meaning of “The Second Coming” goes far beyond the brief description I’ve just given. I particularly enjoy the poem because, not only is it extraordinarily deep, but it also remains particularly entertaining and intimidating even without all its layers of depth.

  4. #4
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    saudi aribia
    Posts
    21
    thanks for your help
    Attached Images Attached Images

  5. #5
    Vincit Qui Se Vincit Virgil's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    New York
    Posts
    20,354
    Blog Entries
    248
    Quote Originally Posted by mayneverhave View Post
    Yeats' poem "The Second Coming" deals primarily with the cycle of ages (particularly the transition from one age to the next), which, in Yeats' mind, was represented by spiraling "gyres" which would gradually become wider and wider until the next age was born at the very tip of a new gyre. In Yeats' poem, the transition from the current age to the next is represented by the destruction of civil order, and more forebodingly, the slouching of the sphynx from egypt to bethlehem - which is of particular religious significance, given the fact that Yeats saw this as the Christian age. Thus, a new age is borne out of this violent reversal.

    In one of his notes on the poem, Yeats wrote: “the end of an age, which always receives the revelation of the character of the next age, is represented by the coming of one gyre to its place of greatest expansion and of the other to that of its greatest contraction.”

    This cyclical view of time has been a recurrent theme in culture. There’s Giambattista Vico’s seminal theories on history, Nietzsche’s idea of “Eternal Return”, James Joyce’s “Finnegans Wake”, and T.S. Eliot’s “The Waste Land”, which deals with the idea of the destruction and reconstruction (or lack thereof) of human culture (which itself is heavily influenced by the Grail and Fisher King myths). You could also very well include films such as "2001: A Space Odyssey" and, more recently, "The Fountain".


    Obviously, this is some heavy stuff, and the meaning of “The Second Coming” goes far beyond the brief description I’ve just given. I particularly enjoy the poem because, not only is it extraordinarily deep, but it also remains particularly entertaining and intimidating even without all its layers of depth.
    A nice little summary, Mayneverhave. Welcome to lit net to you and beauti_life.
    LET THERE BE LIGHT

    "Love follows knowledge." – St. Catherine of Siena

    My literature blog: http://ashesfromburntroses.blogspot.com/

  6. #6
    No longer confused... Lioness_Heart's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    in my own shadow
    Posts
    678
    this might not be much use because i read it ages ago, but:

    there's the whole terrible vision of the future

    the distorted parousia

    and the 'vision' in a more literal sense, ie the imagery of the poem is about what was happening at the time, like the exploration of egypt and suchlike
    "The magic gave me insight, and you gave me a heart, but for all the heart and insight in the world, I am still a cat."

  7. #7
    Registered User quasimodo1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Bensalem, PA 19020
    Posts
    3,267
    Virgil: Kind of you to advise about Yeats; and a concise explanation it is.

  8. #8
    Vincit Qui Se Vincit Virgil's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    New York
    Posts
    20,354
    Blog Entries
    248
    Quote Originally Posted by quasimodo1 View Post
    Virgil: Kind of you to advise about Yeats; and a concise explanation it is.
    Actually I've been reading a bit of Yeats lately. I love his work.
    LET THERE BE LIGHT

    "Love follows knowledge." – St. Catherine of Siena

    My literature blog: http://ashesfromburntroses.blogspot.com/

  9. #9
    mayneverhave's description is very good.

    I would also add that I read in a Yeats biography that he was influenced specifically by the Book of Revelations part of the Bible and the idea of the endtimes(Which is a concept every major religion has).

    One can look at signs and think their generation is living in the endtimes based on current events....I recall Yeats was indulging in that a little himself and did state that.

  10. #10
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    saudi aribia
    Posts
    21
    thank you very much all of you
    you save me


    but if any body help me

    Second coming is well-known poem
    If anybody know the main idea of each stanza
    Pleas help me...
    I want five or less sentences for each one.
    It sentences not explanation
    It my research paper work in this year......

  11. #11
    Haribol Acharya blazeofglory's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Kathmandu
    Posts
    4,959
    Quote Originally Posted by beauti_life View Post
    hi
    please
    can anybody help me??
    i want to know the visions of yeats in his poem
    the second coming....
    This poem is really one of the best poems I like of Yeats, and indeed it says something of the coming of Christ.

    “Those who seek to satisfy the mind of man by hampering it with ceremonies and music and affecting charity and devotion have lost their original nature””

    “If water derives lucidity from stillness, how much more the faculties of the mind! The mind of the sage, being in repose, becomes the mirror of the universe, the speculum of all creation.

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 28
    Last Post: 02-13-2023, 06:19 PM
  2. Yeats and 'The Second Coming'
    By dandan in forum Yeats, William Butler
    Replies: 17
    Last Post: 06-08-2012, 02:20 AM
  3. Coming Soon to a Theater Near You
    By Lily Adams in forum General Movies, Music, and Television
    Replies: 113
    Last Post: 07-15-2010, 04:46 PM
  4. The Scond Coming
    By piquant in forum Yeats, William Butler
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 08-09-2007, 10:52 PM
  5. Guess Who's Coming to Dinner
    By daddysfiddler in forum General Chat
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 02-20-2006, 03:43 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •