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    Quote Originally Posted by Janine View Post
    Hi bazarov, Wow, I will have to ask Logos, as you suggest. Well, popularity does insure an author is actually a good one. I pass no judgement here - only stating a fact.

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    Yes, I agree with you. Orwell is really good in my opinion, but there are many writers much much better than him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bazarov View Post
    Yes, I agree with you. Orwell is really good in my opinion, but there are many writers much much better than him.
    Finally!!! I have already started thinking I am the only one who likes Orwell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexei View Post
    Finally!!! I have already started thinking I am the only one who likes Orwell
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    Quote Originally Posted by bazarov View Post
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    Thanks, if I menage with all my reading I will take part too
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    Quote Originally Posted by bazarov View Post
    Join the club! The Atheist is the president.
    Good one, Baz!

    This thread continues to entertain me....thanks!

    Alexei, I never said I did not like Orwell. Actually, I do (so you are not alone), but just have not read much by him. He certainly had his prominent place in literature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janine View Post
    Alexei, I never said I did not like Orwell. Actually, I do (so you are not alone), but just have not read much by him. He certainly had his prominent place in literature.
    What is there except 1984 and Animal Farm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bazarov View Post
    What is there except 1984 and Animal Farm?
    I think he wrote another short book called "Keep the Aspidistra (sp?) Flying".
    I saw a film based on the novel. I like the film very much and would like to read the novel, actually. I am guilty of not really reading Orwell, just seeing films based on his novel - oh, wait --- I did read "Animal Farm" in high school....that was many moons ago.

    Yep, just looked it up on Amazon and there it was - http://www.amazon.com/Aspidistra-Fly...6542422&sr=1-1 - check it out. I think I did spell that right - amazing! Anyway, if you check the Orwell listings there are many more books he wrote.
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    Guilty as Charged

    Virgil, dude, look what you've done. You've started yet another string on Orwell. Take your thundrous hammer and smiteth mightily your bits and bytes. Or at least ignore this thread until we find the next goat.
    And the charm of Animal Farm is simply this. Pigs in pants...Dude!!...PIGS IN PANTS!!!
    And will someone please take the bait and try to defend Henry James. I'm wandering around his field of crap looking for the pony. I'm looking for the key that will allow me to be as impressed with his writing as Mr. James seems to be.

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    I would like to nominate for most over-rated poet, our own Lit Net superstar poet, Virgil - he wins too many picture poetry contests!


    sorry Virg - just kidding with you......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janine View Post
    I think he wrote another short book called "Keep the Aspidistra (sp?) Flying".
    I saw a film based on the novel. I like the film very much and would like to read the novel, actually. I am guilty of not really reading Orwell, just seeing films based on his novel - oh, wait --- I did read "Animal Farm" in high school....that was many moons ago.

    Yep, just looked it up on Amazon and there it was - http://www.amazon.com/Aspidistra-Fly...6542422&sr=1-1 - check it out. I think I did spell that right - amazing! Anyway, if you check the Orwell listings there are many more books he wrote.
    I would have to say "Keep the Aspidistra Flying" is my favorite Orwell novel....A perfect mix of idealism and reality....However, the ending isn't necessarily an unhappy one as capitalism temporarily triumphs over the goals of the protagonist....Also the relationship between the male and female leads is the best of any of Orwell's books.

    "Coming Up for Air" is also excellent and a worthy addition to the British tradition of the little man fighting against his gray repetative 9 to 5 life.

    "Homage to Catalonia" is well-written and interesting....The part where Orwell is severly injured is compelling.

    "Down and Out in London and Paris" is a short book that makes an interesting comparison about two types of working poverty....A minor book but an entertaining one.

    Actually "Animal Farm" is my least favorite book of his....It's ham fisted allegory and obvious message doesn't make for a very good read IMO.

    Orwell's personal reputation has taken a bit of beating recently with the revelation he may have been an informer on some of his communist/socialist colleague for the government....In some of the biogrpahies I have read he comes across as a total ******* but I say trust the art and not the artist!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rgdmalaysia View Post
    I would have to say "Keep the Aspidistra Flying" is my favorite Orwell novel....A perfect mix of idealism and reality....However, the ending isn't necessarily an unhappy one as capitalism temporarily triumphs over the goals of the protagonist....Also the relationship between the male and female leads is the best of any of Orwell's books.

    "Coming Up for Air" is also excellent and a worthy addition to the British tradition of the little man fighting against his gray repetative 9 to 5 life.

    "Homage to Catalonia" is well-written and interesting....The part where Orwell is severly injured is compelling.

    "Down and Out in London and Paris" is a short book that makes an interesting comparison about two types of working poverty....A minor book but an entertaining one.

    Actually "Animal Farm" is my least favorite book of his....It's ham fisted allegory and obvious message doesn't make for a very good read IMO.

    Orwell's personal reputation has taken a bit of beating recently with the revelation he may have been an informer on some of his communist/socialist colleague for the government....In some of the biogrpahies I have read he comes across as a total ******* but I say trust the art and not the artist!
    Wow, rgdmalaysia - thanks for all that information. It is good to know about the other books Orwell wrote and I bet they are actually better reads than "Animal Farm" - I think that book's popularity was based on the fact that no one had done a book quite like that before. I have been intending for a long time to read "KTAF" - I read that that this book is basically autobiographical and that interested me. Also, I saw the film based on the book and I found it witty and very amusing and 'touching', as well. In the film the male and female leads had great chemistry and were so witty together.

    Given this new list (thanks again) I think these all sound interesting and a bit more true to life - maybe (?).

    At the time "1984" was written, it is true that it was quite 'unique', and now we have been over-exposed to this 'mind-control' concept in films and books, so that I think it has lost it's original impact. I am sure it was a brilliant novel in it's day, and still is considering it's place in time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quasimodo1 View Post
    Ars Gratia Artis. Hail Caesar. Long live Virgil.
    quasi, at least you got the joke!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PabloQ View Post
    Virgil, dude, look what you've done. You've started yet another string on Orwell. Take your thundrous hammer and smiteth mightily your bits and bytes. Or at least ignore this thread until we find the next goat.
    And the charm of Animal Farm is simply this. Pigs in pants...Dude!!...PIGS IN PANTS!!!
    Pigs in pants! I guess that is something.


    And will someone please take the bait and try to defend Henry James. I'm wandering around his field of crap looking for the pony. I'm looking for the key that will allow me to be as impressed with his writing as Mr. James seems to be.
    It's hard to defend Henry James, especially with Wings of the Dove and The Golden Bowl. They are inpenetrable for no apparent reason. But then there is the great Henry James too, Portrait of a Lady, Daisy Miller, The Ambassadors, and The Beast In the Jungle, which in my opinion may the best short novel ever written. So I don't know. There is some truely great Henry James too.
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