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    In Islam, Allah is supposed to have two sides .For example, they say ''There is No God but God'', ''God is merciful as well as Abaser and Humiliator "", what does all this mean? Doesn't it show that even if we believe there is One God or Allah He has positive as well as negative characteristics? Does he not reward men for their deed here and in the hereafter? God may not be bad but he does seem to possess control over both good and evil?
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    God DOES control both good and evil. However, He does not create what could really be called "evil." "Misfortune" would be a better word. He causes things which may be painful to people. God is, however, not a being who could actually commit evil actions. He may allow them to happen, and He will not (and does not) stop the actions of men, but He does not do evil things.
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    As a believer in God, I agree God doesn't do evil. But, it perplexes me to see that Evil is getting stronger day by day.Why doesn't God take steps to control it?

    Moreover, if God is, as you say, not a Being then what is he??
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    Quote Originally Posted by mazHur View Post
    As a believer in God, I agree God doesn't do evil. But, it perplexes me to see that Evil is getting stronger day by day.
    Define evil...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etienne View Post
    Define evil...
    Evil is anything not good or forbidden by God.

    Fore more on this off topic issue better refer to Hammurabi's code, the Bible , the Geeta or the Quran!
    Or just check out at free Wikipedia !
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    Quote Originally Posted by mazHur View Post
    As a believer in God, I agree God doesn't do evil. But, it perplexes me to see that Evil is getting stronger day by day.Why doesn't God take steps to control it?

    Moreover, if God is, as you say, not a Being then what is he??
    First off, I did not mean God was not a being. I meant He was not a being who does evil. He is a being, He does not do evil.

    God does not "control" evil because He allows us to experience beforehand what comes of sin: a foretaste of hell, if you will. He allows us to experience evil because it can open our eyes to Him.
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    So, in other words you believe in fate? Predestination?

    If God had to run the show with predestination then let us forget about Good and Evil. Some one had rightly remarked: God made this world and then forgot it ! Amazing !

    Why do you forget that God created man in his image. If you wont be spared for your actions in this world by man how could you say God will not account for your good or bad deeds??

    If evil is a test from God then why innocent people die in natural calamities ??
    Instead of opening their eyes, their eyes get closed forever ! Amazing!
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    There are no innocent people, "all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God."

    Yes, I believe in predestination. But it is not as simple as you put it: whenever there is a good thing done by a man, it is because God has worked in him. God has caused him to be good. Whenever a man does an evil action, it comes out of his own heart. We are evil on our own, but sometimes God makes us good. And this was not what God wanted when He created the world: the way things are now is a result of sin. It is because of sin that we are born evil, that our "mouths are like open graves" that our "feet are swift to shed blood." We do our evil on our own, but God uses us to do His good.
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    In a plane crash all die but one. We say it was a miracle which saved the survivor. How do you explain that? Why did 99 percent of the passengers die??
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    Quote Originally Posted by mazHur View Post
    Evil is anything not good or forbidden by God.

    Fore more on this off topic issue better refer to Hammurabi's code, the Bible , the Geeta or the Quran!
    Or just check out at free Wikipedia !
    I'd like to see your statistics for claiming there's more evil however. Unless you base yourself on abortion, homosexuality and such. What you need to know is that it's only more known phenomenons, religion has never "fixed" these issues it has only made people hide it from public eye.

    And no, I don't think one can learn what is "evil" from wikipedia, as you can see evil has many facets and one's evil is another's good or freedom. So I was asking you what was evil for you, because claiming there's more evil now is simply the eternal over-idealization of the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etienne View Post
    Define evil...
    Evil is that which is contrary to the character of God. The entire basis for Christian morality is the character of God: what is in harmony with His character is good; that which is not, is evil.
    "I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else." - C.S. Lewis

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    God, good and evil?

    I would like to know where you got the idea that GOD is everything? I'm not being critical, just would like to know YOUR souce. God is too broad to discuss in terms of good/evil. One's own definition of God, I would hope, couldn't be questioned and answered by adjectives. To me God just IS.

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    Evil is anything bad ..not acceptable as a religious, ethical, moral or social norm. Evil is another name for disobedience to the commands of god. Disrespecting our parents and elders is also evil. Now without first comprehending the difference between good and evil, as you seem to appear, I am sure it would not be worthwhile discussing further on this subject.

    It is a general idea that God is good and their is no escape from this concept dinned into our brains but the questions is then where did evil come from and why is it let scot free by God??

    I alreadysaid you could find types of evil in the religious texts of all religions and His punishment for those as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by mazHur View Post
    Evil is anything bad ..not acceptable as a religious, ethical, moral or social norm. Evil is another name for disobedience to the commands of god. Disrespecting our parents and elders is also evil. Now without first comprehending the difference between good and evil, as you seem to appear, I am sure it would not be worthwhile discussing further on this subject.

    It is a general idea that God is good and their is no escape from this concept dinned into our brains but the questions is then where did evil come from and why is it let scot free by God??
    I do not fully agree with your definition for evil, but I am not going to discuss it here (after all this isn't the topic we are supposed to discuss), but I would like to ask you if evil and bad are the same why do we have two different words for it?

    Evil is a possibility coming from our free will. Evil doesn't exist in material form but something can become evil. That's why most of the crimes are done with good intentions. The existence of evil is a result of a choice.
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    Evil is bad in the same way a father is also called dad !
    please try to get into the spirit of things--there could be more than one word to describe or define something, anything !

    Okay. take it this way. anything sinful is evil. Now don't ask me what sin is.

    There is no crime as an innocent crime. No sin as 'Innocent sin''.
    If one does wrong he gets punished for it ----in this world. Why wouldnt he be punished by God for his evil deeds in this world as well as the hereafter?
    I don't believe Jesus will take up all our sins,,,absurd!
    I wouldn't like to be so mean and selfish as to hold Jesus responsible for wrongs committed by me !

    God is the Master of the entire show, good and evil. He knows the tricks of his Game , we don't. But, all and everything emanates from Him alone!
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