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    Beep-boop-bop-bop. I looked it up. On Wikipedia.

    I was reading The Power of Myth by Joseph Campbell and he was talking about love. He said there's three kinds:

    eros (physical love, the "animal" portion of love)
    agape (brotherly love, sympathy)
    and amor (an intimate connection)

    Eros and agape are impersonal. Amor is personal. Amor is an actual connection with someone. But according to Wikipedia there are more love styles.
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    In the sense of between two people who seek each other, naturally it is a mathematical phenomenon.

    Accepting somewhat of an interpretation on Rousseau's Tabula Rasa theory, we see that as a person progresses, all tastes are acquired. That being said, one may find the perfect counterpart in the most agreeable person. This being in not just aesthetic fields, but in capability, wealth, and other matters. Naturally there will always be a "best match" out there somewhere, though I highly doubt that there is a "true" match, in the serendipity sense, or that the perfect match is ever really found, or that the perfect match is always the same person throughout a lifetime.

    Love between family members is however, a different matter. I believe that that is based upon an accepted dogma that one is required to love ones family. Through this, one usually accepts them. Another note is that one is shaped by their family, and therefore have similar tastes, and can mathematically work with someone else.

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    Knowing (and loving) you as I do, I'm not surprised by the articulateness of what you say, the thoughtfulness of it. I would like to interject a comment or two:
    Quote Originally Posted by Sweets America View Post
    To the original poster:

    I am not sure that the love we share with our families is always unconditional. Sometimes our families can be judgemental. Sometimes, if you fall in love with someone and your family doesn't like the person, your whole family can turn their back to you. You were born in your family, but you have not chosen it. I don't like the idea that one has to love his or her mother just because it's his/her mother. This is nonsense to me. Love shouldn't be forced. Sometimes if you are different from the rest of your family, they judge you. And of what use or how genuine is love that is prescribed by this or that rule? Loving my children as deeply as I do, I hope I have never communicated to them that they owe me love in return. Indeed (a trivial point perhaps) remembering my own terror lest I overlook a mother's or father's day, I forbade my kinds to honour me on father's day.... but whenthey do, I am overjoyed.This is the difference between a family and a lover. You have not chosen your family, and thus they can be judgemental towards you, but when you choose your lover, you will choose someone who doesn't judge you. This kind of love is more honest to me. Anyhow, I do not think we ever choose to love anyone either, because I think love just falls on us. Or does seem that way at times - but even then, one has some degree of choice in whether to be fallen on or not. Love without free will - obsessive love - is not I believe worth very much in the end.

    I do not agree either with the old saying that says that 'you have to love yourself if you want the others to love you'. I think that sometimes, people have real trouble with themselves, and it is actually the love that someone else can give them which will restore the love they can feel for themselves. Sometimes we cannot love ourselves without the help of an external person. Indeed, should one or can one ever love oneself unless one has at least once offered love - without the obligation of being loved in return - and has been lucky enough to be loved, freely, by some other? Looking at ourselves through the eyes of another is sometimes what we need to understand better and see ourselves differently.Bravo!
    I do not think that human beings are necessarily attracted to confident people.Oh, but I suspect that they are - not so much out of genuine love of that other but when they suffer from low self-esteem and hope that some of the other's self-confidence will rub off on to them. Which it may do, for a time, but likely will not last unless one finds confidence within oneself/ You talk about political matters, but love is different, I think. I do not need to be with someone who is extra confident. Both of the lovers can actually gain in confidence together. This is what is interesting also in love, it can reveal the best of ourselves, and make us stronger.

    Women work too much, you say?Like you, perhaps, I was surprised to hear Bruce express that feeling but noted later that he identified himself as elderly or at least older, so I attribute that feeling on his part to old fashioned values, something along the lines that one should keep one's woman "barefoot and pregnant"! What about men? I agree that when people work too much, they might not have enough time for love. Then it depends on their priorities. Mine has always been love, so I know what you mean. But, you should ask yourself why you blame women more than men. And, about what you say after, I'm not sure people should have kids just so that their parents have a namesake.

    I agree with what you say about true love. Something that grows with time. Something that doesn't make people give up.
    We spend so much (too d*mned much) time talking about "true" love, blue love, love versus infatuation. &c. instead of loving.
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    Love is like '' No supper , no dance'',,,,love has to pass through guts first !
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    Love is when you can't be in the same room with someone without your heart skipping beats, without being consumed by involuntary trembling, without your stomach bottoming out, or your knees becoming weak.
    I think I would get that feeling if I were in a room alone with one of the 'Sopranos' who was showing signs of itchy fingers.

    Joking apart, this is really a thread in which the female of the species really thrives. No, I am not being racist, just a realist. So I kept out.

    Anyway, I have posted what to me is the most definitive explanation of both what love is, and what it is not on at least two other threads recently.

    The nearest post, though presented in simpler, and less poetically than Sonnet 116 by Shakespeare was the one posted by Blazeofglory. He gets the main point across.

    However, if simplicity is what is needed, and presenting a fresh point of view,
    it is perhaps one I saw proclaimed on a large billboard outside a gothic style building the other day. It simply said - 'GOD IS LOVE'.

    By the way Bruce, on this type of thread subject you might think of rephrasing your opening sentence. If only for some minds. Just a thought.
    I know Brits have a penchant (addiction?) for the 'double entendre' as their comedians and comedy movies often illlustrate
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    All you need is Love.. as stated by the greatest band ever heard.... The Beatles

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    You know something when I wrote the original post I didn't think so many people cared. I must apoligize because the reply are emotional I can't say that anymore.

    That is why I wrote it in the first place was to awaken something that was lost inside of someone. This site is great to get your thoughts out to other people.

    We may not always agree in what we think the important thing is that we think. A brain is a terrible thing to waste. I am sure you all agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midas View Post
    I think I would get that feeling if I were in a room alone with one of the 'Sopranos' who was showing signs of itchy fingers.

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    Ahh.. what a question.. i love it

    this doesn't really answer the question.. well kind of.
    When you and another have a string attaching your mind and hearts, and upon these strings ride trains; when you and the other begin to share your mind and heart, without use of the train; when you and the other share a single heart beat, a single soul, a mind, that is when you know that you are drowning into the infamous state of love..

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    What is LOVE? According to Han Suyin who wrote the book, and Fain-Webster who wrote the Oscar winning song from the movie of the book.

    LOVE IS A MANY SPLENDOURED THING;

    Love is a many splendoured thing
    Its the April rose that only grows
    In the early spring
    Love is nature's way of giving
    A reason to be living
    A golden crown that makes a man a king...

    Once on a high and windy hill
    In the morning mist two lovers kissed
    And the world stood still...
    My fingers touched your silent heart
    And taught it how to sing... Its true ...
    Love's a many splendoured thing

    Ah, without love, apart from anything else, what would our writers, composers, and movie makers do? (And what else would uccupy a girl's mind so much?) Ok, OK, then some(many?) girl's minds.
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    Love

    What is love? How would you define it? And on the 21st century, is love real?
    Shall these bones live?

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    love is a passion that one feels for another. if one loves another, and the other loves the first back, then they devote their lives to one another. that's what i think.
    "I'm afriad to fall," she whispered.
    "I'll catch you," he replied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by browneyedbailey View Post
    love is a passion that one feels for another. if one loves another, and the other loves the first back, then they devote their lives to one another. that's what i think.
    that's romantic love I would say.

    I certainly do not feel any burning passion for any family members (except my extremely handsome, smart, book-loving cousin *drools*).

    This point of view seems a little Disney, not to offend.
    Shall these bones live?

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    I had a crush on a cousin once! Oh man! but he wasn't old enough to move or dirve and then his parents isolated them selves from us and nobody has seen him for 5 years except his parents and siblings ( did I mispell any of that smart one?)
    "I'm afriad to fall," she whispered.
    "I'll catch you," he replied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by browneyedbailey View Post
    I had a crush on a cousin once! Oh man! but he wasn't old enough to move or dirve and then his parents isolated them selves from us and nobody has seen him for 5 years except his parents and siblings ( did I mispell any of that smart one?)
    Must.stop.self.from.spell.checking.

    Curse you!

    (just 3 words )
    Shall these bones live?

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