Hmmm and how is this related to your claim that women can love better than men?Originally Posted by Lote-Tree
Pensy only women can love truly. Think about it. Only women can give birth to new life. Men can't. That's why men invented religion
Only women can love truly - I agree 100% 
Men can't and that's their tragedy - I agree 100%
Women Love is like the Ocean and men's like a little pond
Both option 1 2 3 are offensive - I agree 100% :flame:
Both option 1 2 3 are so lame it bears no truth
Love - whats that about?
Hmmm and how is this related to your claim that women can love better than men?Pensy only women can love truly. Think about it. Only women can give birth to new life. Men can't. That's why men invented religion
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The very fact that they can bring New Life into the world...men can't.
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Men are men. Women can't be born as men. (unless they change their genders but still they are not born that way) Should this mean men can love better than women?
By the way, Lote, you seriously need to read Biology!
I sang of leaves, of leaves of gold, and leaves of gold there grew.
Yes. And men can't give birth to new life. It is this that put's women on a pedestal that no man can reach. And hence it is this ability that makes them love truly.
Last edited by Lote-Tree; 08-25-2007 at 05:12 PM.
I sent my Soul through the Invisible,
Some letter of that After-life to spell:
And by and by my Soul return'd to me,
And answer'd "I Myself am Heav'n and Hell :"
Blog: Rubaiyats of Lote-Tree and Poetry and Tales
All I can say is Waah Waah on your reasoning!
I sang of leaves, of leaves of gold, and leaves of gold there grew.
Come on Pensy think serious about thisAll I can say is Waah Waah on your reasoning!
Men can't give birth to new life. They lack this cosmic connection that comes with being able to create new lifeform. That is why men invented religion so that they can have this cosmic connection by having God speak to men only!
I sent my Soul through the Invisible,
Some letter of that After-life to spell:
And by and by my Soul return'd to me,
And answer'd "I Myself am Heav'n and Hell :"
Blog: Rubaiyats of Lote-Tree and Poetry and Tales
I agree with this, however;
Love is both a feeling and an action. Being in love is a feeling, but it is not the same as the action of love. When we act on love, that is like acts of kindness or friendliness, and when those are returned that is the beginning of love. By the way, we do this with objects, too, it's called 'cathecting,' and is a valid form of love. I think your terminology about the differences of men and women loving is bogus because the process is the same for each. Give love, receive love, grow, etc.1. We define "love" pretty loosely and often incorrectly - e.g.: "I love cats, I love my car, I love my wife." Right - so what does "love" mean? Since love is actually a choice (rather than a feeling) both genders are capable of the same depth of love (though men, through their inherent ability to compartmentalize can more easily isolate it, and women, through their relational wiring, integrate it more fully into their existence).
This is so localized, generalizing and bland...it is not even a 'rule' since there are probably large percentages in many different categories that are nothing like what you describe here. This is not how the genders are. It is maybe how some are, and even some stereotypes, maybe. But there are different nations, cultures, ages, all different types of people...you say that love is not a feeling, and then you consider an orgy to be the most powerful experience of love. Why not a mutual heroin experience? A love letter? A hug? A shared evening, or shared music? A shared life?2. Men and women experience love differently; the old high school maxim that "girls give sex for love and guys give love for sex" is actually fairly accurate. For girls (and this is a generalization ladies, so go easy, OK?), sex is but one possible expression of "love" - but for guys, that often is THE expression of love. In other words, guys feel loved in the act of sex - it is the most powerful experience of "love" we can have - and because women can experience love in many other ways, they are less focused on it than men as a definitive method of communicating love. Yes, I know there are exceptions and such, but I think that both genders are capable of true "love" (whatever that is).
Anyway, at least you agree that obviously both can experience deep love..
And I was serious (of course with intended sarcasm though)!Come on Pensy think serious about this
I sang of leaves, of leaves of gold, and leaves of gold there grew.
*Drops bowl of popcorn*That is why men invented religion so that they can have this cosmic connection by having God speak to men only!
Whoa!!! God speaks to men only?!
"The Lord works from the inside out. The world works from the outside in. The world would take people out of the slums. Christ takes the slums out of the people and then they take themselves out of the slums. Christ changes men, who then changes their environment. The world would shape human behavior, but Christ can change human nature." ~ Ezra Taft Benson
Take a look at some accounts of women who can give life, but they are still unable to love. How many mothers are guilty of killing their own children? How many abuse and neglect them? Being female does not mean that you are the only one who loves truly. Any parent is capable of loving their child, but both mothers and fathers alike are capable of not loving as well. Being able to bear a child does not place you on a pedestal that allows you to be the only sex that can love. Men may not carry the child, but what woman can become pregnant without men? A child is something that is created together, and while we carry and birth them it doesn't mean that we are somehow better than men. You always hear that only women can create life, but this is a narrow and selfish view held by women who have a need for feeling superior to men. Life is created together and no one sex can claim that miracle for themselves.
Salam Pensive :-)
Peace
Regards,
Lote.
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Some letter of that After-life to spell:
And by and by my Soul return'd to me,
And answer'd "I Myself am Heav'n and Hell :"
Blog: Rubaiyats of Lote-Tree and Poetry and Tales
I believe that the ability to truely love is a matter of who the person is inside, not if they are male or female. I just don't think that matters. I've known women who have left their children forever and could not care less about their welfare, just as I've know men to do the same. Then I've known parents who have gone through hell to make the lives of their children better. It's the same with a man/woman relationship. (or man/man or woman/woman)
I don't think the sex of a person give that person the ability to love completely. I think it's the heart.
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I agree to you Granny5.Love is a universal language and if thats philosophy biology blames love on hormones. Basically philosophy and biology prevails in one and all. It does not matter whether you are a man or woman when it comes to love all of us are the same. Its like arguing whether a man or woman dies better.
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